08-31-2011 02:03 PM
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  1. Slingbox's Avatar
    Apple has Verizon by the nuts , same was the case with AT&T.
    V made deal with the Devil and their customers will pay in a bad way.
    08-25-2011 06:29 PM
  2. rickhamilton620's Avatar
    So what if the reason Verizon is not releasing the GS2 is because the Verizon variant will be the Stratosphere. CK emailed Android Authority a few weeks ago when they posted an article about the Bionic and the GS2. He received an answer stating that the Stratosphere was indeed a second generation GS2 variant.

    There's no real evidence that the Stratosphere is the slider that was leaked some time ago. Although personally, if it was to be a slider but had "nearly identical specifications" as the GS2, I'd still consider it.

    http://forums.androidcentral.com/ver...-not-gsii.html

    Droid Bionic, Samsung Galaxy S2 Rivalry Tightens Same Release Date, Same Selling Features?

    Exclusive: Verizon passes on GALAXY S II, but 'similar' Samsung phone launching soon


    If Stratosphere happens to be a Galaxy S II phone instead of the rebadged Epic but with LTE, I'd be up for it. Even more if it's also a slider (doubt it...slider lovers are lucky VZW's giving us the D3 and Epic W/LTE. )
    08-25-2011 06:38 PM
  3. Jdm4292's Avatar
    Ok the woman said they have the charge in their portfolio.. she didn't say they weren't ever releasing another Samsung Verizon phone. Probably isn't supposed to leak any info and that's why she "Wouldn't elaborate" fwiw gs2 would be a foolish device to let pass by.. even with the prime its about money

    Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk
    08-25-2011 06:58 PM
  4. chuckz28's Avatar
    Did you factor in Sprint's port-in credit as well?

    Port In Credit

    That'll pay your wife's ETF and still leave you with a few bucks in your pocket. I don't know if it'll work if you buy them at Best Buy though. The terms say Sprint online, telesales or store. Good luck!
    That's great. The reason I wanted to do best buy was for their insurance. I like how they try to repair your device and replace it with a brand new one if they can't . Refurb cycle blows but I'll have to reconsider it for this credit. Quite a large credit surprisingly.
    08-25-2011 07:00 PM
  5. JayWill's Avatar
    That's great. The reason I wanted to do best buy was for their insurance. I like how they try to repair your device and replace it with a brand new one if they can't . Refurb cycle blows but I'll have to reconsider it for this credit. Quite a large credit surprisingly.
    I'd call Sprint sales ahead of time and see if they'll honor the port-in credit if you purchase and activate your phones at Best Buy. Even if it's not in the terms, they may do it anyways. Sprint tends to go the extra mile to grab a new customer.
    08-25-2011 07:04 PM
  6. largeselection's Avatar
    To those looking to switch carriers...i'm sure you have already considered this, but don't let your disappointment in vzw not getting the gs2 and other carriers getting it cloud the golden rule- choose the network first, then choose the phone. I once switched networks for a phone (not an iPhone) and the network wasn't as good for me so I had to switch back and it was a real pain.

    For those who have equally good network options and can choose from any of the carriers...lucky you!
    terpitude71 and El Jefe like this.
    08-25-2011 07:51 PM
  7. gregba's Avatar
    After I found out that we werent getting the SGS2, I was dead on set on switching to Sprint to get it. Then I calmed down a bit and thought of the crappy reception I would be getting. In 2 years, who knows, maybe VZW will get the SGS4? I decided I am not willing to give up my unlimited data for a phone that I would be getting rid of in 2 years. I am now the (not really proud) owner of a Droid Charge. I just need to figure out how to get Touchwiz 4.0 on this.

    Got it for 119.99 at Target. Cant beat that deal.
    08-25-2011 08:42 PM
  8. BigDFSU's Avatar
    Well I guess I will see some of you on the Prime boards. Hopefully that won't end in the same disappointment. If Big Red screws up with the Prime as well then I will say that they managed to completely drop the ball again. I'm not a fan of them passing on the S2, but I'm hoping it I because they are trying to be the first with the Prime and they felt it was too similar to the S2 to warrant getting both. Maybe if we are really lucky it means the Prime will indeed show up before December.
    08-25-2011 09:21 PM
  9. chuckz28's Avatar
    To those looking to switch carriers...i'm sure you have already considered this, but don't let your disappointment in vzw not getting the gs2 and other carriers getting it cloud the golden rule- choose the network first, then choose the phone. I once switched networks for a phone (not an iPhone) and the network wasn't as good for me so I had to switch back and it was a real pain.

    For those who have equally good network options and can choose from any of the carriers...lucky you!
    Both of my brothers and parents, as well as a bunch of friends use Sprint and they haven't had much to complain about around here. Network isn't the most important thing to me anymore since I only use 200 minuites a month and half my data is on wifi. I refuse to keep supporting Verizon when they keep stepping all over us. First it was raising the ETF to 350, then it was raising the insurance detuctible, then it was a severe slowing of data since the iPhone came about along with dropped calls for the first time ever ( in my parts I can get as low as 150 kbs and under normal circumstances I can't stream even low quality YouTube ), then it was adding continuous copious amounts of bloatware that can not be removed without root, then it was killing unlimited data. The whole time the phone selection is mediocre at best. This is the final straw for me. The price is way too high and for what? Network? The network has gotten worse for me so that being the only reason to stay with Verizon is invalid for me now. A good phone is a higher priority along with a company that hasn't shafted me...yet. I'll protest Verizon with my pocketbook.
    08-25-2011 09:39 PM
  10. MazoMark's Avatar
    I'm not terribly surprised by the news. There has never been FCC clearance of a Verizon version. There has never been verification that an LTE version of the current SGSII exists that would work on Verizon's network.

    I suspect we'll see a modified version of SGSII with LTE before end of year. Whether that is the Prime or Stratosphere or something else - I have no idea.
    08-25-2011 10:08 PM
  11. stockandroidguy's Avatar
    I'll wait to hear on Monday, but this defies all logic if true. The largest US carrier not wanting to carry the best selling phone in the world. Hmm ... Just beyond stupid. If true, I will seriously consider going to Sprint. Never had I even envisioned entertaining the thought. But, this would make me do it.
    This is what I'm thinking too. Why wouldn't you want to have the best selling phone in the world in your lineup it doesn't seem to make much sense
    08-25-2011 10:53 PM
  12. zooguitar's Avatar
    It's great reading all these Samsung PR hacks posting fake posts of solidarity. To the real people interested in keeping score, this probably has to do with the fact that Samsung is going to kill the market with their uncoordinated diarrhea strategy. Did you see yesterday's ridiculous announcement of overkill models? 2 blackberry ripoffs (and why would they think going after the dying market is a winning strategy?), and then 2 more galaxy variant lines. Which, if you multiply by the number of US carriers, is a ridiculous number of phones to put out at once, all of which are only differentiated by millimeters. Oh, and the GS3 hits Europe in the winter. But enjoy the GS2.
    08-25-2011 11:11 PM
  13. MasterGiraffe's Avatar
    Well this massively screws me over. I wasn't really a huge fan of the Bionic so far, but it looks like I am at least going to have to give it a shot. My phone's days are very very numbered and I don't think that there is any way that it will last until the Prime. This has left me very skeptical and I don't think I am willing to believe any sort of rumors that are floating around. If there is something that confirms the Prime to the mid October region then I will wait, but there is no way I can wait longer than that. At this point I think it would be more realistic to take the earliest rumored release date and add about a month and a half.

    At this point it seems like my only options will be the Bionic, the Vigor (if that comes out even close to the rumored dates) or the phone with "very similar" specs to the SGSII. Maybe I will just get a really cheap phone that is used so I can wait a bit longer.
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    08-26-2011 12:31 AM
  14. rickhamilton620's Avatar
    Well this massively screws me over. I wasn't really a huge fan of the Bionic so far, but it looks like I am at least going to have to give it a shot. My phone's days are very very numbered and I don't think that there is any way that it will last until the Prime. This has left me very skeptical and I don't think I am willing to believe any sort of rumors that are floating around. If there is something that confirms the Prime to the mid October region then I will wait, but there is no way I can wait longer than that. At this point I think it would be more realistic to take the earliest rumored release date and add about a month and a half.

    At this point it seems like my only options will be the Bionic, the Vigor (if that comes out even close to the rumored dates) or the phone with "very similar" specs to the SGSII. Maybe I will just get a really cheap phone that is used so I can wait a bit longer.
    That's the boat I'm in. My Droid 1 is aging like crazy (loads of random reboots, camera crashes, flaky headphone jack) and I've been in a holding pattern ever since the Merge announcement. I've watched that and Droid 3 come out. The only phone I'm willing to go slate for was GSII
    08-26-2011 12:51 AM
  15. DroidnewVZ's Avatar
    Look at this poll on Droid Life. Ouch, not good news for the Bionic.
    Don't make a mountain out of a mole hill. The percentage of phone buyers who read these boards is tiny. If every poster on these boards passed on the Bionic, no one would notice. That phone is going to sell like hot cakes because most buyers will walk through the door and play with phones and be directed to the latest and greatest by the sales people. They may also see an ad campaign and buy the phone. Either way, most people are not coming from a buying position like everyone here.

    If the SSG2S was going to be 3G, I don't see why Verizon would be so excited to have it. What void does it fill in their portfolio? None.
    08-26-2011 01:02 AM
  16. AllenRulz's Avatar
    It doesn't matter to me. I'm waiting on the Prime because it's Google's next flagship phone with Ice Cream OS on it. And that will keep running all the updates released !!!
    08-26-2011 01:25 AM
  17. Rominucka's Avatar
    I am now the (not really proud) owner of a Droid Charge. I just need to figure out how to get Touchwiz 4.0 on this.
    I am running TW4 on my phone. I have a near complete GS2 experience right now which is why I'm not all that bummed out.
    I will gladly help you turn your Charge into a Charge S II, but you're really not that proud to own this phone. Me and my Charge are insulted.
    Take it back (the insult, not the phone) and I will provide all the links you'll need.


    Sent from my Samsung Droid Charge 4G-LTE
    08-26-2011 01:44 AM
  18. Rominucka's Avatar
    Wanna watch a little more crow-eating? Rominucka might have to delete his account:

    http://forums.androidcentral.com/rum...xt-week-7.html
    The fact that it's not coming out at all nullifies that whole thing. As far as I knew it was supposed to come out and have LTE. But this whole thing is really a change for the better.

    Sent from my Samsung Droid Charge 4G-LTE
    08-26-2011 02:00 AM
  19. Kage87Z's Avatar
    The GS2 game, aka Galaxy S 2, Galaxy S 2, who's got the Galaxy S 2 game was something I caved on 10 days or so ago when I bit the bullet and bought a Charge.

    It just pissed me off that they wouldn't release a date... and after waiting 3 months and not even getting that, I just said the hell with it and bought something else.

    12 or 18 months from now, we'll have forgotten all about this.
    08-26-2011 02:05 AM
  20. Rominucka's Avatar
    Network isn't the most important thing to me anymore since I only use 200 minuites a month and half my data is on wifi. I refuse to keep supporting Verizon when they keep stepping all over us. First it was raising the ETF to 350, then it was raising the insurance detuctible, then it was a severe slowing of data since the iPhone came about along with dropped calls for the first time ever ( in my parts I can get as low as 150 kbs and under normal circumstances I can't stream even low quality YouTube ), then it was adding continuous copious amounts of bloatware that can not be removed without root, then it was killing unlimited data........The price is way too high and for what? Network? The network has gotten worse for me so that being the only reason to stay
    Complaining about the amount of an ETF is low-class. Sorry, that's just my opinion. If you're not responsible enough to know whether or not you'll be able to afford the service for the two years then you might as well go to Metro PCS or Virgin. That's what they're for.
    If you happen to be too obsessive compulsive or spoiled to where you have to have exactly what you want or else, then that's a whole other issue entirely.
    The fact that the service in your area is starting to suck is more than justified.
    Bloatware? Seriously?
    And why should you care whether there's unlimited data as you use wifi half the time. It's extremely expensive to maintain the data network when there are idiots like me hogging the crap out of it.


    Sent from my Samsung Droid Charge 4G-LTE
    08-26-2011 02:27 AM
  21. gregba's Avatar
    I am running TW4 on my phone. I have a near complete GS2 experience right now which is why I'm not all that bummed out.
    I will gladly help you turn your Charge into a Charge S II, but you're really not that proud to own this phone. Me and my Charge are insulted.
    Take it back (the insult, not the phone) and I will provide all the links you'll need.


    Sent from my Samsung Droid Charge 4G-LTE
    I wasn't insulting the phone, I guess I meant that I was super disappointed that I didn't have a SGS2, so yes, I take it back

    How do I get TW4.0? I have never rooted a phone, and am a bit hesitant to do so. Is that something that has to be done in order to get TW4.0? I'm not the most tech savvy and do not want to brick the phone.

    Thanks!
    08-26-2011 05:56 AM
  22. boondoc's Avatar
    Complaining about the amount of an ETF is low-class. Sorry, that's just my opinion. If you're not responsible enough to know whether or not you'll be able to afford the service for the two years then you might as well go to Metro PCS or Virgin. That's what they're for.
    If you happen to be too obsessive compulsive or spoiled to where you have to have exactly what you want or else, then that's a whole other issue entirely.
    The fact that the service in your area is starting to suck is more than justified.
    Bloatware? Seriously?
    And why should you care whether there's unlimited data as you use wifi half the time. It's extremely expensive to maintain the data network when there are idiots like me hogging the crap out of it.


    Sent from my Samsung Droid Charge 4G-LTE
    wait, did you just call him poor? well, he might be "low-class" but you have absolutely no class at all.
    WilCIWS and Friend-O like this.
    08-26-2011 08:05 AM
  23. MarkAllan's Avatar
    I wonder if the Verizon version will be announced at the IFA event, where apparently Samsung will introduce S2's with LTE. Maybe the other three carriers will be announced as 3G on Monday.

    Yeah, I know. I highly doubt it.
    08-26-2011 08:19 AM
  24. DolfanCole's Avatar
    I wonder if the Verizon version will be announced at the IFA event, where apparently Samsung will introduce S2's with LTE. Maybe the other three carriers will be announced as 3G on Monday.

    Yeah, I know. I highly doubt it.
    No, I'm sure they will be announced as "4G" on Monday, but it's not "4G/LTE".
    08-26-2011 08:20 AM
  25. dsignori's Avatar
    .... Do you really want the SGS2 on another carrier that has a spotty at best network and slow? It's like having an awesome camera that can't take pictures. ....
    VZW mising out on the iPhone pretty much derails this theory. It is NOT better for VZW to assume that people will forgo lesser networks to stay on VZW and stomach inferior phones. It hasn't happened in the past , and I wouldn't expect it to happen in the future. Some people care more about the network than others (smart people IMO), but that hasn't helped enough when bad decisions like this are made ... This is a bad move for VZW ..
    08-26-2011 08:29 AM
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