09-01-2011 08:05 AM
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  1. sndplace's Avatar
    I thought that Google offered it free to companies as open source and didn't make money on it by letting brands use it. I guess I was thinking the wrong thing here.

    sent by CyanogenMod X
    I stand corrected. I am thinking of 1 way business ways. thank you for this . I don't know if it was ment as sarcasm but i will take it as pointing me to new information. Google does license out Android for free and pays the Manufacturers money for putting the OS on their phones. In turn they get paid thru our searches on Google ... So this being the case they do make money off the OS being on all these companies phones just not thru lic fees. Genius... Why Android is Getting so much Traction: Think Less than Free I read other stuff this seamed to make more sense to me even though its a bit old. I don't think there practice has changed much but i can again be proven wrong...
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    08-29-2011 05:47 PM
  2. Xephik's Avatar
    I guess this kills my plan to move to T-Mobile for the Prime. I identified 4 reasons:

    1. Cheaper rates
    2. 4G blankets almost all of Long Island
    3. The Prime, of course
    4. WiFi calling/texting. I'm literally 1 house away from the Long Island Sound, so I get horrible service with ALL carriers at my house. Sometimes I need to switch rooms just to send out a text with Verizon.

    This development pretty much kills this idea. Yes the rates will be higher, and yes there is no LTE on Long Island, and I may experience the same craptastic service using a Prime (Or might not, my girlfriend's Dinc never has a problem at my house. Same radio and ROM and everything). But me not paying a $200 ETF and then dropping another $200 or so for the Prime outweighs it all in my book.

    I was creeping Engadget the other day. The Nexus S went through the FCC around 11/11/2011 ish I believe, and was announced the first week of December if I remember correctly. I bet we'll get some solid info on this baby within the next 2-3 weeks. Of course the iPhone 5 takes all the news these days so its hard to make a legit projection on this.
    08-29-2011 05:55 PM
  3. LeanNSupreme's Avatar
    Does this mean there will be no Nexus Prime for GSM carriers?
    08-29-2011 06:07 PM
  4. irl Panda's Avatar
    Does this mean there will be no Nexus Prime for GSM carriers?
    No, and as stated before, the Nexus Prime is the Nexus Prime. Reputable insiders have disputed BGR's article. There are known GSM variants.

    Sent from my Droid using Tapatalk
    08-29-2011 06:15 PM
  5. MetalPhoenix79's Avatar
    IMHO I'm calling bunk on the BGR article.

    1. As far as the name change goes, I can't see Google giving in with this demand considering they didn't with the first two phones. I understand Verizon's position as a carrier but I don't believe it.

    2. As it has been said before, it has been disputed. P3Droid, BlackManX and Droid-Life sources all say it's not going to be called the Droid Prime.

    3. I can't see Google allowing Verizon to be the exclusive carrier of ICS for any period of time. Google has passed on them twice (or vice versa) and could happen again. ICS is supposed to be unifying. Doesn't really start to unify the OS when it is on only one carrier.

    Maybe Verizon will get there way but I hope not. I'm a Verizon customer and I just want the Prime they WAY IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE.
    08-29-2011 06:34 PM
  6. nemov's Avatar
    IMHO I'm calling bunk on the BGR article.

    3. I can't see Google allowing Verizon to be the exclusive carrier of ICS for any period of time. Google has passed on them twice (or vice versa) and could happen again. ICS is supposed to be unifying. Doesn't really start to unify the OS when it is on only one carrier.
    .
    Who said anything about Verizon being the exclusive carrier for ICS? Being first and being exclusive aren't the same thing.
    08-29-2011 06:55 PM
  7. MetalPhoenix79's Avatar
    Who said anything about Verizon being the exclusive carrier for ICS? Being first and being exclusive aren't the same thing.
    Well if you are the first carrier to have it....by definition it is exclusive. It's just the period of time that it is exclusive. That may mean days, weeks, etc. I specifically say for a period of time. Not forever.
    08-29-2011 07:06 PM
  8. STC09's Avatar
    Does this make my OG Droid a Nexus 0.5?

    That would be perfect - I always wanted a Nexus on a real network. Turns out I had it all along.
    08-29-2011 07:20 PM
  9. mjforte's Avatar
    This wouldn't be the first time Verizon debuted a new version of Android. They were the first to debut Android 2.0 and 3.0.
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    08-29-2011 07:24 PM
  10. tntdroid's Avatar
    I stand corrected. I am thinking of 1 way business ways. thank you for this . I don't know if it was ment as sarcasm but i will take it as pointing me to new information. Google does license out Android for free and pays the Manufacturers money for putting the OS on their phones. In turn they get paid thru our searches on Google ... So this being the case they do make money off the OS being on all these companies phones just not thru lic fees. Genius... Why Android is Getting so much Traction: Think Less than Free I read other stuff this seamed to make more sense to me even though its a bit old. I don't think there practice has changed much but i can again be proven wrong...
    No sarcasm I don't like it and we don't want it in the forums. I thought I was thinking wrong and thinking the whole open source thing was just that others could use it. Both learned something today. Thanks for the other info.

    sent by CyanogenMod X
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    08-29-2011 07:39 PM
  11. sndplace's Avatar
    This wouldn't be the first time Verizon debuted a new version of Android. They were the first to debut Android 2.0 and 3.0.
    Another thing I stand corrected on. forgive I came to android in June so didn't really know much about it till then... It was the first then the Milestone but the Nexus1 came first with what we know to be the Eclair of today 2.1 then Froyo then 2.3 with the NS so even though they were first at that time in 09, Google has had there new updated OS on their phone first. And from what it remember reading , the Nexus1 was suppose to come out way before it did. So maybe they didnt want to delay Moto and verizons release and allowed them to come out with 2.0 then update that to 2.0 with new changes and release it on the N1..
    08-29-2011 07:48 PM
  12. tntdroid's Avatar
    This is what I'm thinking. People are saying it can't be a true Google nexus if it is not called a nexus. If it's not called a nexus then Verizon will mess with it. Look at the Xoom. Pure Google device not called a nexus on Verizon no bloat and the updates come to the Xoom before other android tabs. We could have a device like the Xoom and og Droid on our hands. I just want an bootloader we can unlock. That's all that matters here. If we have that then we can kill the bloat and get the updates soon as source is out.

    Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk
    08-29-2011 08:30 PM
  13. Zorachus's Avatar
    After all this I am totally confused. It is pretty much confirmed that Verizon is releasing a new flagship device named the "Droid-Prime", and will come with Android 4.0 "Ice Cream"

    But since this does not have the key word "Nexus" in the name, will it still be an untouched pure Android experience with zero bloatware, etc... ?

    And then what about us on T-Mobile, the original "nexus" carrier, I would expect a new nexus this December like T-Mo has been releasing all the way back since 2009. Is T-Mobile getting the Nexus-Three or Nexus-S II this Fall ? T-Mobile deserves the first crack at a new Nexus device, they have been releasing that brand since they started, if T-Mo gets the shaft over Verizon, that would be like ATT not getting the iPhone5 this Fall.
    08-29-2011 08:37 PM
  14. irl Panda's Avatar
    After all this I am totally confused. It is pretty much confirmed that Verizon is releasing a new flagship device named the "Droid-Prime", and will come with Android 4.0 "Ice Cream"

    But since this does not have the key word "Nexus" in the name, will it still be an untouched pure Android experience with zero bloatware, etc... ?

    And then what about us on T-Mobile, the original "nexus" carrier, I would expect a new nexus this December like T-Mo has been releasing all the way back since 2009. Is T-Mobile getting the Nexus-Three or Nexus-S II this Fall ?
    I suggest you read the thread again. Pay close attention to the words "DROID" and "not a".

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    08-29-2011 08:40 PM
  15. slimjamm's Avatar

    T-Mobile deserves the first crack at a new Nexus device, they have been releasing that brand since they started, if T-Mo gets the shaft over Verizon, that would be like ATT not getting the iPhone5 this Fall.
    Your constant "Tmobile deserves...." and "....it's like ATT not getting the iphone..." is getting really annoying. Seriously, move on.
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    08-29-2011 09:33 PM
  16. atomD21's Avatar
    That is the news I was hoping for! Due for an upgrade in Spetember, I think I can wait another month...
    08-29-2011 10:00 PM
  17. sndplace's Avatar
    @tntdroid.. the Xoom I thought was to be the Nexus of Tablets no? Like the OGDroid b4 the Nexus came out. I do agree that this Droid Prime can be a pure Google phone or if its unlocked then it wouldn't matter because it can all be removed. But I don't think that this will be the Nexus Prime renamed. I Could be wrong lol wouldn't be the first time ,but after building a brand name for a phone I can't see why they would just go and change it. Or allow carriers to put their own branding to the phone. And the name is not what really matters. It's what renaming it represents. Carrier preference and Ownership. IMO . I do hope that this is a true and beast of a phone to show the power of android and ICS but also hope its not the Nexus Prime renamed...
    08-29-2011 10:40 PM
  18. JayWill's Avatar
    Changing the name has no effect on the software. If it were to be marketed under a different name but without bloatware, it would only break the naming scheme. That being said, I'd still consider it "pure." Maybe not in name but certainly in function, and that's quite alright with me.
    A "pure" Android experience on Verizon? Yeah that'll be the day.
    08-29-2011 11:55 PM
  19. elvisgp's Avatar
    A "pure" Android experience on Verizon? Yeah that'll be the day.
    What about the OG droid? And did everyone forget about the xperia play? That runs stock android too. Okay, well these devices don't have the full Google experience but they do run stock android.

    Sent from my amazing galaxy tab 10.1 which also eats ipads
    08-30-2011 12:00 AM
  20. rightontime's Avatar
    I agree no company deserves anything but the world uses GSM so there is a very high chance that it will be on t-mobile. I'm just hoping that the GSM version works on both At&t and T-Mobile 3g.I wanna say pentaband but I don't really know too much about the radios to know if that's the correct term.

    Please Google, simultaneous launch on all four carriers!
    08-30-2011 12:42 AM
  21. jerseyboy357's Avatar
    Silly Earthlings. I am Nexus Prime and not only am I coming soon, its a return trip!!

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    08-30-2011 12:57 AM
  22. Rominucka's Avatar
    Ok, what the community cares about and what the general public cares about are two completely different things.

    The OEMs and the carriers really don't care what the community wants. Phone nerds probably represent 1% of the buying market. In three months I think I've seen one person walk into the 5 stores I work in that was knowledgeable and enthusiastic about phones like we are.

    Nexus phones are BORING and are hard to sell because they are BORING. Try to pitch the average person on the benefits of a pure Google phone and watch their eyes glaze over while they pretend to care what you're talking about. Try to get them to recognize how smooth phone A is over phone B and listen to them say, "I don't see it".

    That's who the carriers care about. Pure Google has next to ZERO wow-factor, and hopefully Google has recognized this and will let Verizon and Samsung put out the first ICS phone as the Droid Prime. Google and Samsung want Apple bad now. Verizon wants mega-phones to battle it out while they sit back and watch the activations go up and up and up. A Nexus phone will not do that, unless ICS is something amazingly beyond belief, which I don't think Google is capable of. Google is hip, but they're not cool. Their mentality is too under-the-radar-ish.
    Google and Verizon understand that Samsung is the top dog in the Android world. Samsung knows how to whip something together that most people will want to buy.

    Everybody has to start understanding this about their beloved devices. Who cares about bloat, this, that and the other thing? Root the phone and flash the ROM if it's that big of a deal. That's half the fun!!! There's nothing but my limited understanding of the inner workings of Android that's keeping me from turning my phone into what ever I want to. And don't argue that "I shouldn't have to blah blah blah..." Then why are there people rooting and flashing on Nexus phones?

    PS: Speaking of bloatware, we don't know how super powerful and amazing ICS is going to be. I doubt any amount of bloat could hurt this phone.

    Sent from my Samsung Droid Charge 4G-LTE
    08-30-2011 01:16 AM
  23. edoublediz's Avatar
    agree 100%

    also, it has pretty much been confirmed this is NOT a Nexus phone.
    08-30-2011 07:28 AM
  24. Zorachus's Avatar
    Just read this on BGR;

    The Droid Prime is no Nexus..it is simply Verizons and only Verizons flagship ICS phone, but lets get it straight it is NOT a Nexus. Google will do their own outing of the Nexus-3. Maybe the Samsung I9250 a 4.65" Super Amoled HD ICS device might turn out to be the real new Nexus-3 that will be released to Tmo, Sprint and Att. Or as i have always thought...HTC might be the sleeper OEM to give us an N1 type on steroids Nexus 3. Either way it shakes out...Google has something special in-store for us all vanilla android lovers, and it's not a Droid.
    08-30-2011 08:25 AM
  25. nemov's Avatar
    Just read this on BGR;

    The Droid Prime is no Nexus..it is simply Verizons and only Verizons flagship ICS phone, but lets get it straight it is NOT a Nexus. Google will do their own outing of the Nexus-3. Maybe the Samsung I9250 a 4.65" Super Amoled HD ICS device might turn out to be the real new Nexus-3 that will be released to Tmo, Sprint and Att. Or as i have always thought...HTC might be the sleeper OEM to give us an N1 type on steroids Nexus 3. Either way it shakes out...Google has something special in-store for us all vanilla android lovers, and it's not a Droid.
    Please quit spamming the board with the same post. It's juvenile.
    08-30-2011 08:28 AM
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