09-30-2011 03:16 AM
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  1. Hearthatvoiceagain's Avatar
    NOT HAVING a keyboard will drive far fewer folks away. Some may only want a keyboard, but most people will not be driven away from the device because it doesn't have one.

    IMO if VZW has only 1 of these (and I absolutely think VZW will sell only 1), they will make more money and sell more if it does NOT have a keyboard.
    I agree with this 100%. Not that I care, since I am in the UK so wont be getting the VZW version anyway.

    Incidentally given the alleged size of this thing I would think the screen keyboards keys will be pretty well spaced. I remember when I replaced my G1 with the Desire I was so worried that I wouldn't be able to get on with a screen keyboard, but now it's second nature.
    09-19-2011 01:26 PM
  2. Drosul's Avatar
    My $0.02 for whatever it's worth...

    I vastly preferred typing on my physical keyboard on my D1, and a physical keyboard is VASTLY preferable for phone gaming, than partially obstructing your view by having a GUI for in game controls.

    That said, keyboards add a on alot of width, and the layout/design of a physical keyboard is a very personal preference in itself. Truth be told, Motorola is the only company I've seen successfully pull of a physical keyboard in the smartphone era.

    Personally, a keyboard is a welcome addition, as I find myself often thinking that smartphones are TOO thin (like the Bionic, felt way to thin in my hands, and immediately decided the phone needed the extra heft of an extended battery).... But at the same time, a 4.65 screen could very well need an extended battery just to survive more than an hours worth of screen time....... and the prospect of a screen+physical keyboard+extended battery... might actually start looking like an ice cream sandwich.
    09-19-2011 01:43 PM
  3. ManBearPig618's Avatar
    Hate the idea of a keyboard, and the more I think about it, it can't be the ONLY option for any one carrier (VZW is all I care about). How many FLAGSHIP devices have come out in the past year with slide out keyboards? Anyone? If I had to guess, I would have to say it is close to zero. This is clearly going to be a high-end, flagship device, and as that it warrants the newest technology and cleanest features. No way it comes out keyboard equipped. Just my two cents.
    09-19-2011 01:54 PM
  4. ienjoysoup08's Avatar
    the keyboard won't be on a nexus device. a nexus device is a developer phone. if they are making apps for phones with keyboards then what about the phones that don't have keyboards(the majority of phones). I say there will be a nexus device for all carriers and a droid device with a keyboard for Verizon also
    09-19-2011 02:20 PM
  5. DolfanCole's Avatar
    the keyboard won't be on a nexus device. a nexus device is a developer phone. if they are making apps for phones with keyboards then what about the phones that don't have keyboards(the majority of phones). I say there will be a nexus device for all carriers and a droid device with a keyboard for Verizon also
    I think your logic would actually work the other way. I wouldn't see any necessary changes from a developer standpoint to develop for a phone without a keyboard, but would if it does. So, from a developer's standpoint, it would seem better to have a developer phone that does have a keyboard.
    09-19-2011 02:25 PM
  6. SpaceHippie's Avatar
    Those of you thinking this phone with a keyboard would be a mistake are clearly mistaken. For starters, it's one more reason for blackberry fans to switch. And also, there are thousands of android fanboys. This forum does not make up a large % of them, they WILL buy this phone because of it's specs and the fact that it's android.
    09-19-2011 02:28 PM
  7. nemov's Avatar
    Those of you thinking this phone with a keyboard would be a mistake are clearly mistaken. For starters, it's one more reason for blackberry fans to switch. And also, there are thousands of android fanboys. This forum does not make up a large % of them, they WILL buy this phone because of it's specs and the fact that it's android.
    Can we just skip this pointless debate? I get it, you like keyboards. Good for you. If phones with keyboards were what people really wanted Blackberry wouldn't be losing users. The iPhone would have a keyboard version. The GS2 (which is Samsung's flagship device) would have a keyboard. Those devices don't have keyboards because most people don't want them. End of story.
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    09-19-2011 02:33 PM
  8. ejaymd11's Avatar
    Can we just skip this pointless debate? I get it, you like keyboards. Good for you. If phones with keyboards were what people really wanted Blackberry wouldn't be losing users. The iPhone would have a keyboard version. The GS2 (which is Samsung's flagship device) would have a keyboard. Those devices don't have keyboards because most people don't want them. End of story.
    How about the blackberry os can't even compare to ios or android? That has nothing to do with why they are using users?
    09-19-2011 02:52 PM
  9. nemov's Avatar
    How about the blackberry os can't even compare to ios or android? That has nothing to do with why they are using users?
    There are plenty of Android phones out there with keyboards. The idea that this phone would have a keyboard just to entice Blackberry users is.... pretty weak.
    09-19-2011 02:55 PM
  10. ejaymd11's Avatar
    This is all well and good if Verizon offers both, but I'm a Verizon customer and I'm not used to choice. There are certainly many people who wouldn't mind a keyboard, but I think it's obvious that most people don't want it. That's not a slight against those with different tastes. It's just the way the market is at the moment.
    How could anyone possible know that most people don't want a phone with a physical keyboard? I know a lot of people that do not want a touchscreen only phone. That was the reason I picked the OG. Now I do not want my next phone to have a physical keyboard, but that's not saying that they're aren't a lot of folks out there that do want a physical keyboard.
    09-19-2011 02:57 PM
  11. nemov's Avatar
    How could anyone possible know that most people don't want a phone with a physical keyboard? I know a lot of people that do not want a touchscreen only phone. That was the reason I picked the OG. Now I do not want my next phone to have a physical keyboard, but that's not saying that they're aren't a lot of folks out there that do want a physical keyboard.
    This is simple economics. If more people wanted keyboard devices wouldn't keyboard devices dominate the market? Of course they would. I don't understand why this is so difficult for you to understand.
    09-19-2011 03:06 PM
  12. dsignori's Avatar
    How many FLAGSHIP devices have come out in the past year with slide out keyboards? Anyone? If I had to guess, I would have to say it is close to zero. ..
    Does the Galaxy S Epic 4G on Sprint count as the last year? Maybe not, I'm not sure.

    There are plenty of Android phones out there with keyboards. The idea that this phone would have a keyboard just to entice Blackberry users is.... pretty weak.
    I agree that they wouldn't add a keyboard just to entice BB users. However, it seems logical to assume that long time BB users would be more inclined to switch OSs (to Android) if their new phone also had a physical keyboard like they were used to. I know when I cam from BB years ago, I was very happy my OG had a keyboard. Now I don't want one.
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    09-19-2011 03:07 PM
  13. SpaceHippie's Avatar
    I wasn't saying they are trying to entice BB users, that's over there now taking on apple, i said the keyboard would sway BB users. Which is true. And he just of my statement is simply that the phone will sell, keyboard or not. Verizons ad campaigns are very good.
    09-19-2011 03:21 PM
  14. ejaymd11's Avatar
    There are plenty of Android phones out there with keyboards. The idea that this phone would have a keyboard just to entice Blackberry users is.... pretty weak.
    NO one ever said that was the reason for having a physical keyboard on the phone. Maybe you are the one having the problem understanding things.

    This is simple economics. If more people wanted keyboard devices wouldn't keyboard devices dominate the market? Of course they would. I don't understand why this is so difficult for you to understand.
    Well first of all people were never ever given a choice where they? Look at all the phones with keyboards now they are all very weak spec wise maybe with exception of the Droid 3. A lot of phones with keyboards aren't even running android! What you keep fail to understand, or maybe choosing not to understand is no one is saying that everyone wants a physical keyboard. They point is because you do not want one, doesn't mean their aren't plenty of people that do!
    09-19-2011 03:21 PM
  15. nemov's Avatar
    NO one ever said that was the reason for having a physical keyboard on the phone. Maybe you are the one having the problem understanding things.
    Nope. Please read:
    Those of you thinking this phone with a keyboard would be a mistake are clearly mistaken. For starters, it's one more reason for blackberry fans to switch.
    No one has said that "no one wants a keyboard." Your problem seems to be accepting the fact that a majority of smartphone users don't want a keyboard. If a majority of smartphone users wanted a keyboard the flagship phones from iPhone, HTC, Samsung, and Motorola would have them.
    09-19-2011 03:35 PM
  16. rickhamilton620's Avatar
    Nope. Please read:

    No one has said that "no one wants a keyboard." Your problem seems to be accepting the fact that a majority of smartphone users don't want a keyboard. If a majority of smartphone users wanted a keyboard the flagship phones from iPhone, HTC, Samsung, and Motorola would have them.
    Excellent point. For many users, the iPhone is the standard. These people aren't power users so they're like "i don't need that keyboard, the iPhone doesn't have one!" Cue focus groups all nodding "no sir" to the idea of one. I understand. It's what the people want.

    I guess keyboard lovers, including myself, are a bit bummed to see that really going away. There's nothing really high end save for the Droid 3 and that's because it's being seen as a niche. It's a bit tough to accept tbh, but I've always said if the phone was absolutely amazing, I'd suck it up and force myself to live with the on screen keyboard and try to get better..somehow. The keyboard would just be icing on the cake for some people.

    I know this is far fetched, but what if the keyboard idk...somehow clipped onto it and slid out somehow. So it could be the best of both worlds: Want a uberthin phone, don't get the optional "keyboard accessory" Verizon did this with the LG Versa, but in a weird stupid clamshell way.

    Just a dream but still.
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    09-19-2011 03:51 PM
  17. ManBearPig618's Avatar
    Are we really having this debate? It's as simple as this: if more users wanted physical keyboards on high devices, manufacturers would put them on more devices. Why does the current batch of upper-end smart phones lack physical keyboards? Because they aren't very popular for flagship devices. Many, many more people would rather see a Nexus san-keyboard than one with it. There's a reason so few high end phones have them...they wouldn't sell.
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    09-19-2011 03:55 PM
  18. UserError's Avatar
    Keyboard would be pretty awesome to have! Typing up longer e-mails, and even some texts, are so much easier with a keyboard. If not for anything else -- I'm able to see more of what I type since the virtual keyboard is not taking up half the screen. Plus -- I make a lot less typos with a physical keyboard.

    Seems like some people do not use their phone for work as much -- physical keyboards are not becoming outdated -- it's just that a lot more people who don't need them are beginning to use these phones.
    09-19-2011 03:57 PM
  19. ejaymd11's Avatar
    Nope. Please read:

    No one has said that "no one wants a keyboard." Your problem seems to be accepting the fact that a majority of smartphone users don't want a keyboard. If a majority of smartphone users wanted a keyboard the flagship phones from iPhone, HTC, Samsung, and Motorola would have them.
    You keep choosing to miss my point.
    09-19-2011 04:23 PM
  20. MetalPhoenix79's Avatar
    Kellex over at DL says "It does not have a keyboard. A device coming after it may, but this one does not." regarding the Samsung Galaxy Nexus.
    09-19-2011 04:23 PM
  21. LDawg07's Avatar
    WiMax radios? Would this confirm a sprint version?
    09-19-2011 04:32 PM
  22. nemov's Avatar
    You keep choosing to miss my point.
    They point is because you do not want one, doesn't mean their aren't plenty of people that do!
    No one said that there aren't people who want a keyboard.
    09-19-2011 04:40 PM
  23. EggoEspada's Avatar
    WiMax radios? Would this confirm a sprint version?
    Yea. There's defiantly a Sprint version in the works. Just don't think itll be seen at launch.
    09-19-2011 05:21 PM
  24. the one and only M's Avatar
    Galaxy Nexus is the stupidest idea for a name. Period.

    Just wanted to add my opinion on the naming front.
    09-19-2011 05:23 PM
  25. ejaymd11's Avatar
    No one said that there aren't people who want a keyboard.
    Either way I don't think there will be a single Nexus device with a keyboard. Also a lot of folks are saying they wouldn't get it if it had a keyboard. I think that is just posturing. The rumored specs make it a beast of a phone, and if it had a keyboard it would still be a beast.
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    09-19-2011 05:26 PM
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