10-11-2011 04:54 PM
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  1. ienjoysoup08's Avatar
    Like I mentioned. With Honeycomb the buttons don't disappear when you start using a full screen app but the become small slightly transparent dots. So they are still there and require no extra touch to use back or home. However you have to be smart enough to remember which dot is which...

    The more I find it going to be like Honeycomb the more excited I get about this phone.
    I have only used a honeycomb on a demo unit but I loved it! I have such high hopes for this and I think there is some great potential for on screen buttons.
    10-09-2011 11:15 PM
  2. infernalman7's Avatar
    Someone should design a screen swipe to get the buttons back or else the phone and ICS must be postponed. oops...maybe that is what really happend.this week
    I think it will be similar to the Notifications, where you can swipe up from the bottom edge of the screen to bring back soft buttons. (?)
    10-10-2011 03:17 AM
  3. Crispy's Avatar
    In the entire history of engineering and computing, there has never been a time when replacing physical hardware with software has *not* been a good idea.

    More software control is a good thing!
    Mooem likes this.
    10-10-2011 06:02 PM
  4. koolbon's Avatar
    am I the only one who saw that in the video of the nexus when he went into the camera app the on screen buttons were gone? how do we get out of the camera app. and when the camera app was loading there was no on screen buttons for the home screen?
    Not only that, I believe the camera app is NOT expanding to the area of those buttons. So, we are not gaining any screen space, but need to do something to bring up the buttons for the next action.
    Tell me they are making software buttons just for cool factor and I'll just buy that!
    10-10-2011 06:16 PM
  5. DenverRalphy's Avatar
    The only problem I have with the software buttons is that there seems to be one missing... and it's the most used button on my device. Where's the search button?
    10-10-2011 06:21 PM
  6. sblantipodi's Avatar
    On my Honeycomb tablet, when i rotate the screen to different orientations, the buttons rotate as well.

    Sent from my GT-P7510 using Tapatalk
    this is on of the reason why modern phones don't need a physical button.
    10-10-2011 06:34 PM
  7. koolbon's Avatar
    The only problem I have with the software buttons is that there seems to be one missing... and it's the most used button on my device. Where's the search button?
    Actually, I think we are missing two buttons assuming that the third button on the right is for the multitasking replacing the long press home button. I started really wondering how the missing menu button will be handled.
    10-11-2011 02:28 PM
  8. Mooem's Avatar
    Actually, I think we are missing two buttons assuming that the third button on the right is for the multitasking replacing the long press home button. I started really wondering how the missing menu button will be handled.
    I envision it'll be just like Honeycomb in that it'll appear as a soft button when an app calls for a contextual menu. Also, Honeycomb optimized apps include the contextual menu in the top-right corner of the screen but this might work differently in ICS for phones.

    Also in Honeycomb, the phone/system settings are accessible from the notification tray. I imagine it works the same in ICS (and I believe the recent ICS videos show a settings button at the top of the tray).
    10-11-2011 03:17 PM
  9. koolbon's Avatar
    I envision it'll be just like Honeycomb in that it'll appear as a soft button when an app calls for a contextual menu. Also, Honeycomb optimized apps include the contextual menu in the top-right corner of the screen but this might work differently in ICS for phones.

    Also in Honeycomb, the phone/system settings are accessible from the notification tray. I imagine it works the same in ICS (and I believe the recent ICS videos show a settings button at the top of the tray).
    I saw the shortcut for the setting on the home screen from the video clip, so the phone/system settings will be handled by OS itself I assume. I'd say the majority of the apps in the market are not coded for Honeycomb like menus, but we will need to get to menu somehow. I am sure they have some type of solution for it, so we can actually use the damn device, but I am just wondering how and hope that the solution is not something that cause more inconvenience than having the fixed buttons.
    10-11-2011 03:28 PM
  10. Mooem's Avatar
    I saw the shortcut for the setting on the home screen from the video clip, so the phone/system settings will be handled by OS itself I assume. I'd say the majority of the apps in the market are not coded for Honeycomb like menus, but we will need to get to menu somehow. I am sure they have some type of solution for it, so we can actually use the damn device, but I am just wondering how and hope that the solution is not something that cause more inconvenience than having the fixed buttons.
    I guess I should've been more clear...if an app utilizes the menu and is not optimized for honeycomb, then it will appear to the right of the "recently opened apps" button when the app is opened. It will go away when the app is not in view.

    The shot is of a Galaxy Tab 10.1 with TouchWiz but stock Honeycomb works the same way. While I can't be for certain this is how it'll function in Ice Cream Sandwich, I don't see any reason for them not keeping it.
    10-11-2011 04:54 PM
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