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  1. CR6's Avatar
    I use Vlingo Virtual Assistant and its just as good (& accurate) as Siri. So no, Siri is nothing "new" for Android users. But like the notification bar they claim is "new",. just one more feature Android users have been using for sometime now. Just my 2 cents.... no way knocking the new Iphone.

    tap'n
    10-15-2011 12:21 PM
  2. dchawk81's Avatar
    Guys, This thread was not created to discuss the merits or otherwise of Siri, iOS 5 or the iPhone platform. If that is what you want to do please go start your own thread. For everyone else, a refresher on what this thread is about.
    The merits of device features are directly tied to excitement for them and expectation of them.

    ...... start your own forum. You can start a thread but that doesn't mean you own it.
    10-15-2011 01:11 PM
  3. phantomash's Avatar
    Comparing Android's voice capabilities (at the present) to Siri is like comparing a Model-T to a Porsche 996.

    Siri is more than a Marketing ploy.... its a big step forward from what Android has to offer at the present. I hope ICS offers something similar.

    Siri is the first time I have been jealous of an iPhone feature lacking in Android.
    have you tried speaktoit assistant app?
    10-15-2011 01:23 PM
  4. Hearthatvoiceagain's Avatar
    The merits of device features are directly tied to excitement for them and expectation of them.

    If you want to be a thread ****, start your own forum. You can start a thread but that doesn't mean you own it.
    The purpose of having separate threads is that you discuss one topic in each thread. I agree that "The merits of device features are directly tied to excitement for them and expectation of them." but what was happening was that this thread was turning into a shouting match about Siri, iOS and iPhone v Android. Incidentally you might want to look up Godwin's law.
    10-15-2011 01:39 PM
  5. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    This thread does need to stay on topic. The OP is asking about expectations and if they are too high, not a blow by blow comparison of each and every "new" feature in iOS.


    I think expectations are part of what drives manufacturers and developers to push the envelope of what we can do on our devices. If we didn't constantly want more and more out of our devices then manufacturers and companies would stop trying to build in new features and capabilities. So, yes, our expectations are high, but if they weren't manufacturers would stop pushing the envelope with each new release.
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    10-15-2011 02:35 PM
  6. p3unit32's Avatar
    Apple and Google are taking two entirely separate approaches with the new iterations of their OS's.

    Apple is taking the user-friendly road, as it always has. Starting with the iTouch, they capitalized on the users ability to have an easy-to-use device. It syncs itself, and can be used across several major platforms in the fact that it can be synced to iTunes to transfer music, movies, or apps. You can then use that sync to play those songs on your computer. Then, if you have another iOS device, you can plug that in and sync that one too. It's easy. You just plug and go. When the bar stops loading, everything will work for you perfectly. This logic is being used in Apple's devotion to voice-activated programming in the form of Siri. Siri is going to give users the same ease-of-use that they once had when the iOS just came out and iTunes gave it its exclusivity as the most easy-to-use OS. Sure Siri is going to be far from perfect, and by no means am I an Apple fan. I hate Apple. A lot. But their marketing scheme is always their selling point. People are going to get used to Siri, and use it more often as they have integrated it so well with the OS.

    This is where Android parts ways. They did not focus on integrating easier user-interface options with their voice recog. They instead focused on a cleaner, more appealing visual user-interface that the user can touch and interact with. If Apple were smart, they would continue to pour money in to Siri development to further themselves from Android and create a different genre of device. Leave the gadgety, pretty looking devices to Android, and leave the user-friendly devices to Apple. If Apple continues aggressive development on Siri, no doubt will it be the differentiating factor between the two. People aren't buying into Siri itself, they are buying in to the idea of Siri. The idea of not having to open applications or a messaging app to type a message or send a text. The idea that you can control things that were once only controllable with your hands, with your voice. And Apple will recognize this, and they will develop Siri further.

    For the record, I own no Apple products besides a 2nd generation iTouch and am an avid Android fanatic. However if you're looking at Apple vs. Google, you need to look at it logically and understand why each company is developing the way that they are.
    At least you're post isn't bias, and I agree with your comments here. Each OS has different objectives, and has different styles for accomplishing task. I personally could careless about a name, but I do care about quality.
    10-15-2011 07:30 PM
  7. p3unit32's Avatar
    What really makes it hard for people to chose between iOS and Android is lake of knowledge. You have to understand what each is designed to do specifically. Android is more for the tech savvy, while iOS is user friend and built around music and other forms of multimedia.

    Plus if your not sure which you want in either OS, you could end up choosing the wrong platform and hating it because it doesn't fit your personality. Obviously neither is really better than the other, or otherwise either or would be in RIMM's situation. Sure each has some features sets that the other doean't, or strengths in certain areas that the other OS isn't as strong.
    10-15-2011 07:42 PM
  8. dchawk81's Avatar
    This thread does need to stay on topic. The OP is asking about expectations and if they are too high, not a blow by blow comparison of each and every "new" feature in iOS.


    I think expectations are part of what drives manufacturers and developers to push the envelope of what we can do on our devices. If we didn't constantly want more and more out of our devices then manufacturers and companies would stop trying to build in new features and capabilities. So, yes, our expectations are high, but if they weren't manufacturers would stop pushing the envelope with each new release.
    Well in my opinion it never got derailed. When you want to discuss whether expectations are too high you have to discuss features. Without features, our devices aren't devices at all...they're just hunks of plastic & metal. Heck even those are features. If you don't talk about features, it'll just be a thread with a bunch of yes's and no's. May as well be a poll with an empty, locked thread dangling below.

    Second paragraph: agreed 100%. We want more, they give us more. Then we want more again.
    10-15-2011 11:30 PM
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