10-15-2011 02:01 PM
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  1. MedioGringo's Avatar
    Hmm I wonder? It seems that there are two phones in the leaks the i9xxxx GSM and the the other 1515 model, one maybe global and the other.. no one knows? I have the Og droid which came with no blur just Google interface..but did include Vcast apps. Eventually I installed a launcher. I actually like the launcher look and functionality better than stock Android that is on my Og droid. I can switch back and forth and stock is not for me....but the launcher UI seems better than past blurs--and you can confiure the launcher scrolling smoothness app drawer, icons paks, launcher docks ...which is something I cannot not do with vanilla on my OG Droid although I can get to and modify the root directory with no problem.

    The first vid leak looked rather boring. The second vid-- the one with the analog clock and animations looked a lot better, although I don't like that gold and blue faded wall paper at all, but you can change wall papers. I am feeling ambivalent and compromised.

    I would like to like to at LEAST give stock ICS a try to see what it has to offer. I don't like the in-your-face-blue, orange/red colors and big widgets that are presented with TouchWiz out of the box...but I guess you can change to another wall paper, install other widgets and you can tone down the color intensity. I like the idea of Samsung Kies which I guess would not be offered with stock ICS. Guess I will just have to wait and see what is released before I can decide.
    The Nexus S and Nexus S 4g had different code numbers (i9020 and SPH-D720). The 2 different models could just signify the LTE and GSM versions.
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    10-11-2011 10:21 PM
  2. ejaymd11's Avatar
    How can it have skin and it hasn't been released yet?
    10-11-2011 10:22 PM
  3. revickulous2001's Avatar
    I'm sorry, but this is dumb. It's a Nexus!!! It's not Samsung's decision, it's Google's call. The Nexus S is a Samsung device.

    Sent from my Thunderbolt
    If by Nexus, you mean it's a GALAXY Nexus...Then yes. You're right. This phone resembles Samsung far more than it resembles Google (According to leaks which could be completely off). Notice the rumors of the plastic chassis (like the Galaxy S II). Furthermore, the design of the UI in the leaked Nexus Prime video (assuming it's not fake) looks suspiciously like TouchWiz.
    10-12-2011 01:20 PM
  4. Mooem's Avatar
    If by Nexus, you mean it's a GALAXY Nexus...Then yes. You're right. This phone resembles Samsung far more than it resembles Google (According to leaks which could be completely off). Notice the rumors of the plastic chassis (like the Galaxy S II). Furthermore, the design of the UI in the leaked Nexus Prime video (assuming it's not fake) looks suspiciously like TouchWiz.
    Not sure what a plastic chassis has to do with anything...the Nexus S has one as well. As far as naming convention goes, you do know that the "S" in Nexus S comes from Galaxy S right? As far as meaning goes, I see it as simply an identifier that it's a Google device made by Samsung. Same goes for Galaxy Nexus.

    I'm just not seeing any hint in the video or the latest screenshots that look like Touchwiz. The app drawer, widgets, color accents, icons, etc. looks like a more refined Honeycomb than anything else. None of the UI elements in the video, as far as looks and function are concerned, appear in any version of TouchWiz that is out there.

    Otherwise, we really have nothing else to compare to except for a video of the Nexus S running, what could potentially be, an early version of ICS. This doesn't mean that Google isn't taking cues from third party UIs like TouchWiz. However, software is never set in stone so anything we see now shouldn't be considered final or conclusive until we see an announcement.
    10-12-2011 02:07 PM
  5. borgey401's Avatar
    I'm going to put an end to this right now. I know somebody with firmware from the Nexus that's about a month old. It has no touchwiz or no bloatware. If you don't choose to believe me, I really do not care. It's your time that you're wasting thinking about this. I can't believe people are really running with this stupid rumor.
    10-12-2011 02:16 PM
  6. greydarrah's Avatar
    It may or may not have touchwiz, but it will definitely have verizon bloat on it. That's how verizon rolls, and they're big enough to bully the issue. This is why you're probably going to see see HUGE delays in this phone being brought to the market. If you think that verizon see's any value in a "true Google experience" (eye roll at the ridiculousness of this phrasing...I don't think it's going to be life changing), you've miss judged big red. The .01% of people that mod their phones (I'm included in this tiny group) do not drive verizon's marketing plans. I just want ICS to be released on any device. Rooting and ROMs can take care of getting rid of the bloat.
    10-12-2011 02:43 PM
  7. borgey401's Avatar
    Do you not understand the point of a nexus phone? If it has bloat it won't be a nexus. How is this so hard to understand?

    Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Nexus TouchWiz edition using Tapatalk
    10-12-2011 03:03 PM
  8. greydarrah's Avatar
    Do you not understand the point of a nexus phone? If it has bloat it won't be a nexus. How is this so hard to understand?

    Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Nexus TouchWiz edition using Tapatalk
    Sure, I understand, I just don't think that verizon is as interested in the idea as much as you are. It's why I think this phone is a long way off from coming to verizon. Hopefully, I'm wrong.
    10-12-2011 03:09 PM
  9. revickulous2001's Avatar
    Sure, I understand, I just don't think that verizon is as interested in the idea as much as you are. It's why I think this phone is a long way off from coming to verizon. Hopefully, I'm wrong.
    Verizon makes money from their bloatware. Does anything else really need to be said? That seems like enough reason to me for Verizon to make a push for their bloatware being included with this phone.
    10-12-2011 03:12 PM
  10. CynicX's Avatar
    Read first:

    New Leak Suggests There May Be More Than One Prime [OPINION] (Updated) AndroidGuys

    What do you guys think of this? While I really don't want to believe it, they make a few good points.

    Now, this would be totally and utterly heart-wrenching to me as I've wanted a VZW Nexus since the Nexus One came out. Do you really think Google would allow the Nexus name to be on a phone run by TouchWiz over Ice Cream Sandwich? I really don't think they would. But hell, for some reason I could see Samsung and Verizon talking Google (who never stands up to the carriers) into it.

    In the stock-Nexus' defense, why would Verizon release a TouchWizzed Nexus if they could have just released a Galaxy S II like all the other carriers? Hopefully that logic means we WILL be getting a stock Nexus.

    Now, to me, a Nexus means totally unlock-able and it gets instant updates from Google. No Verizon crapware or update delays. It's a Google phone, controlled by Google. The carrier is just a dumbpipe. Will we be getting this (finally) on the Verizon LTE network? I sure effing hope so.

    Come on, Verizon+Samsung+Google, don't screw us. Just give us stock Ice Cream Sandwich on a true Nexus device. Please.

    What do you think, guys? Am I crazy? Soothe my nerves and tell me this article is bat-**** insane.
    I'm not all that impressed with Google's handling of updates with their GED Xoom. Every update includes more bugs with no noticeable improvements. Honeycomb on the Xoom in the USA is version 3.2 (3.2.2 if you got your 4g upgrade) the update includes an annoying screen dim bug and the ability to read only from the SD card. Outside the USA xoom owners are on version 3.1 which was sent ota from Motorola (not Google) their version is less buggy and has read WRITE to SD card ability.

    What I'm getting at is sometimes getting the latest updates straight from the source isn't the best when the alternative is a better tested more functional update release.
    10-12-2011 03:15 PM
  11. STC09's Avatar
    The OG Droid wasn't bloated and had no skin.
    Half right.

    And FWIW, a Nexus wouldn't be a Nexus with Touchwhiz.
    10-12-2011 03:19 PM
  12. ottscay's Avatar
    Sure, I understand, I just don't think that verizon is as interested in the idea as much as you are. It's why I think this phone is a long way off from coming to verizon. Hopefully, I'm wrong.
    It was my expectation also that there would be some bloatware, but tere seem to be leaks from well-placed sources that directly contradict this, and of course people who have a system dump (i.e. provided boot animations and wallpapers) that said no bloat was loaded.

    Also, while Verizon loves itself some bloatware, it also has had to make a pact with the dev...Apple to not put any bloat on the iPhone, and Verizon seems very happy to be pitting this device head on against the 4s, so maybe they bought into it to allow a truly premium Android experience to go head to head with (and hopefully for them temper the leverage of) the iPhone.
    10-12-2011 03:20 PM
  13. ManBearPig618's Avatar
    This thread is ridiculous. Really guys?
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    10-12-2011 03:24 PM
  14. jamesbrown33's Avatar
    Half right.

    And FWIW, a Nexus wouldn't be a Nexus with Touchwhiz.
    well i don't know when you got you're droid, but I got mine in December and it didn't have any Verizon apps on it. I guess if you could call amazon mp3 bloat though
    10-12-2011 03:27 PM
  15. greydarrah's Avatar
    It was my expectation also that there would be some bloatware, but tere seem to be leaks from well-placed sources that directly contradict this, and of course people who have a system dump (i.e. provided boot animations and wallpapers) that said no bloat was loaded.

    Also, while Verizon loves itself some bloatware, it also has had to make a pact with the dev...Apple to not put any bloat on the iPhone, and Verizon seems very happy to be pitting this device head on against the 4s, so maybe they bought into it to allow a truly premium Android experience to go head to head with (and hopefully for them temper the leverage of) the iPhone.
    Yes, but there is a huge difference between the iphone and a nexus device. The iphone is a true one of a kind (although a crappy kind). This gave apple more leverage over verizon...if they wanted to carry the phone. The nexus is just another android device, which they already have boatloads of. Before you get too mad at me for saying that, I realize that the cleaner, bloat/skin free nexus is slightly better than other android devices, it's still something that only a very small percentage of the verizon customers care about. Before anyone get's worked up about my "slightly better" comment, come on guys...it's not like a factory bloat free device is going to truly change your "experience" in using a phone. Besides, it's nothing that a new ROM can't accomplish anyway.
    10-12-2011 03:29 PM
  16. STC09's Avatar
    well i don't know when you got you're droid, but I got mine in December and it didn't have any Verizon apps on it. I guess if you could call amazon mp3 bloat though
    Bought mine on the day it released. Amazon, Youtube (pre Google purchase, IIRC), and Verizon Visual Voicemail were preinstalled and could not be deleted.
    10-12-2011 03:50 PM
  17. STC09's Avatar
    This thread is ridiculous. Really guys?
    Post non-announcement neurosis.
    10-12-2011 04:04 PM
  18. jamesbrown33's Avatar
    Youtube (pre Google purchase, IIRC)
    wow how did you get your droid back in 2006?!
    \nitpick

    I knew about amazon mp3, but didn't the nexus one come with that as well? I can also honestly say I never remembered having visual voicemail, but I did only last about two weeks before rooting so it may have been there
    10-12-2011 04:05 PM
  19. STC09's Avatar
    wow how did you get your droid back in 2006?!
    \nitpick
    That long ago? Wow, time flies. So that's one or two bloatware apps instead of three, depending on whom Amazon was paying off.

    Could have sworn there was something about Verizon Navigator too, but don't see it in the app drawer of this stock OG Droid.

    Edit: Was Facebook preloaded too?
    10-12-2011 04:09 PM
  20. EggoEspada's Avatar
    Do you not understand the point of a nexus phone? If it has bloat it won't be a nexus. How is this so hard to understand?

    Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Nexus TouchWiz edition using Tapatalk
    I've given up trying to get that point across about what's a Nexus device and how things work.

    Sent from my ADR6400L
    10-12-2011 04:16 PM
  21. greydarrah's Avatar
    I've given up trying to get that point across about what's a Nexus device and how things work.

    Sent from my ADR6400L
    I understand what a nexus device is. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I don't think verizon will be getting a nexus device. They may get a blurred up version of the prime later on, but I don't think they'll be agreeing to and getting the nexus prime.
    10-12-2011 05:17 PM
  22. Stelv's Avatar
    Just because it's called the nexus doesn't mean it's going to be nexus branded. It could still have bloat and touchwiz if Verizon wants it that way. They could even change the name to the charge 2 or something.

    Sent from my Incredible 2
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    10-12-2011 05:23 PM
  23. VideoEngineerAJS's Avatar
    I understand what a nexus device is. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I don't think verizon will be getting a nexus device. They may get a blurred up version of the prime later on, but I don't think they'll be agreeing to and getting the nexus prime.
    Huh? Everyone in the know has said that Verizon will be getting this phone before any other U.S. carrier. Have you even been keeping up with the news? I know there have been a lot of crazy rumors about this phone, but pretty much everyone agrees that it's coming to Verizon first, hence, no bloat or skin.
    10-12-2011 05:23 PM
  24. VideoEngineerAJS's Avatar
    Just because it's called the nexus doesn't mean it's going to be nexus branded. It could still have bloat and touchwiz if Verizon wants it that way. They could even change the name to the charge 2 or something.

    Sent from my Incredible 2
    Not it Verizon is the first to get it. Google will not allow an ICS phone to come out before the Nexus, how hard is this to understand?
    10-12-2011 05:25 PM
  25. Stelv's Avatar
    Not it Verizon is the first to get it. Google will not allow an ICS phone to come out before the Nexus, how hard is this to understand?
    Everything is just speculation now. Google may have had to compromise to get their flagship phone on the best lte network. Given verizon's track record I don't trust them to allow vanilla. They have the ultimate say on what goes in their phones.

    Sent from my Incredible 2
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    10-12-2011 05:32 PM
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