10-18-2011 05:33 AM
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  1. phantomash's Avatar
    I'm referring to the on-screen keyboard. While I can type at a pretty decent clip, I'm much better on a hard qwerty (no need to stop and keep fixing what auto-correct guesses wrong) and I hate how a on-screen covers up the screen.

    Depending on the size of the screen/keyboard, I could live with one...I just have to see it for myself. For right now I'm seriously considering Stratosphere as "last-gen" as it is.
    you know what? maybe Nexus Prime just isn't for you, which is totally fine really. There are plenty of other choices. There's no need to force yourself. Just get one with a keyboard, like you said, Stratosphere is probably a better choice for you.
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    10-13-2011 08:09 PM
  2. rickhamilton620's Avatar

    Back on topic...

    I'm hoping what we saw either wasn't really ICS or just the tip of the cone (lulz). I'm really sick of having to choose between an OS that has a great UI but zero customization or a hideous one with great customization. I understand the want for a "Vanilla" experience, but does it have to be so BORING? I remember getting my android phone and couldn't believe how ugly it was. After a month or so of personalizing it, it looks worlds better but nothing compared to IOS. I want the 4.5+ inch screens, 1.5ghz processors and such, but don't want to have to deal with such an ugly OS or lagging app market. I hope with ICS and android's dominant spot as the top OS we can see changes.
    Nice another TP'er in the Nexus Prime thread! :P

    on topic...I too kinda feel you in the whole "stock ui is plain" thing. ICS appears on the surface to be a step in the right direction..can't wait to see it on the prime.

    you know what? maybe Nexus Prime just isn't for you, which is totally fine really. There are plenty of other choices. There's no need to force yourself. Just get one with a keyboard, like you said, Stratosphere is probably a better choice for you.
    Yeah, I know. I just don't want to pigeonhole myself in a device that might not get a lot of community support, especially with the Prime overshadowing it. :/
    10-13-2011 08:39 PM
  3. soccerfon711's Avatar
    He's hypebeasting for sure. He better have the content to back it up.... or else!
    10-13-2011 08:52 PM
  4. jamesbrown33's Avatar
    I do hope that there are new features. Gingerbread was kind of feature-light, focusing instead on backend stuff. This is fine but the end user doesn't see it as plainly as new features. Android on phones has been pretty stagnant as far as features go since froyo, almost a year and a half ago. Meanwhile Apple and Microsoft have caught up, Google needs something awesome to get ahead again.
    10-13-2011 08:55 PM
  5. phishie's Avatar
    If Gingerbread UI is plain I'd love to hear how you'd describe iOS 4.
    10-13-2011 09:26 PM
  6. cdf3's Avatar
    Good luck getting ICS anytime before I'd guess Spring 2012. Samsung doesn't seem to quick with updates especially since they have to get TouchWiz onto it first. Hopefully for all the SGSII owners they do but I wouldn't expect it though.
    I've only purchased one Samsung product to date. So far I'm satisfied. It's a tablet and not a phone.
    As far as updates, they released the latest version of Honeycomb this summer before several of the other manufacturers released it for their tablet.
    I'm hoping my experience when I purchase my phone from them will be just as good.

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    10-13-2011 09:44 PM
  7. jamesbrown33's Avatar
    If Gingerbread UI is plain I'd love to hear how you'd describe iOS 4.
    I don't think gingerbread is plain, I like gingerbread. That doesn't change the fact that if ice cream sandwich only has a new ui and no new features for 90% of android users it not be very much better than froyo because skins will undo all of Google's hard work with the ui
    10-13-2011 09:56 PM
  8. xAGx#AC's Avatar
    I really hope this includes a camera app that isnt utterly terrible like past stock android.

    Cant wait for next week!
    Mac58, Asterdroid, kev24k and 2 others like this.
    10-13-2011 11:00 PM
  9. ottscay's Avatar
    Wow there are a lot of nervous nellies in this thread.

    Here's what we know we'll get:

    1) A UI that finally takes full advantage of GPU acceleration, so we'll get a buttery-smooth UI like iOS and WP7.

    2) Full multi-threading, so everything can take advantage of multiple core CPU chipsets. That will give us better battery life and moar speedz

    3) A total overhaul of the user interface, including software buttons (in phones that support it), a better mode of app-switching, all new bling (various OS animations), etc.

    4) A new unlock screen that allows instant access to a totally revamped camera app

    5) A unified app development framework for phones, tablets, and Google TV - this might not seem like something exciting on first blush, but it will lead to better looking and more consistent apps regardless of device size over the next 6 months.

    On top of all that, there's a rumored music store to go along with Google Music, even better integration of features with Google Voice (including MMS support), Google Wallet, facial recognition and integrated video chat, expansion of cloud storage and even more powerful Docs support, etc.

    If they pull out another surprise or two over that, frankly I'll be flabbergasted. I don't know what the rest of you expect for 8-10 months of development, but I'm impressed. Especially since they had to do all of this while integrating code to work on all Android devices (tablets, TVs, phones, etc).
    Lucki, kca2000, Ironcladz and 2 others like this.
    10-13-2011 11:40 PM
  10. DWR_31's Avatar
    Good luck getting ICS anytime before I'd guess Spring 2012. Samsung doesn't seem to quick with updates especially since they have to get TouchWiz onto it first. Hopefully for all the SGSII owners they do but I wouldn't expect it though.
    Samsung has already stated that if you don't get the TouchWiz update for your Galaxy Tabs you won't be able to get more updates.
    They're already working on TouchWiz for ICS.
    10-13-2011 11:48 PM
  11. Bearly's Avatar
    Normal CEO marketing talk
    Agreed

    Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk
    10-14-2011 12:04 AM
  12. estebancam's Avatar
    Uh oh.... Apple is going to sue Samsung and Google for describing their products as "Incredible," and "amazing"......

    Here we go!
    ejaymd11 likes this.
    10-14-2011 01:05 AM
  13. ejaymd11's Avatar
    IMHO the only way ICS could be as "incredible" as he's making it out to be is to build a WebOS-like UI on top of android. Don't get me wrong, I like android and I'm happy that it will be less fragmented after this release but the UI could definitely use some improvement. Blackberry blatantly copied the WebOS UI, so why can't Google? I'm definitely looking forward to seeing what they added though. I also hope they update my Sprint GS2 shortly after the announcement. That would be incredible enough for me!
    Then it wouldn't be Android! I'm tired of folks always wanting Android to be like something else! I like Android because it's Android. If I wanted something that looked like ios I would get ios, and if I wanted a webOS phone, then guess what I would get? If people aren't happy with what Android is, then go to the OS you wish it would be like, and save yourself the trouble. Android is Android, and shouldn't look, or try to be like anything else but Android.
    OhSoCheesy likes this.
    10-14-2011 01:33 AM
  14. Hearthatvoiceagain's Avatar
    Uh oh.... Apple is going to sue Samsung and Google for describing their products as "Incredible," and "amazing"......

    Here we go!
    Actually, in the absence of SJ was the "Incredible," and "amazing" count down at the iP4S launch?
    10-14-2011 03:10 AM
  15. Tripsyk's Avatar
    He's probably referring to how much they've packed into the ICS update. It's going to be huge, a lot bigger than the Honeycomb or Gingerbread update was. They're unifying tablets and smartphones, it's not an easy task. They are multi-threading it to better operate on multi-core CPUs and have decreased the fragmentation of their OS by an incredible amount. NFC support, Facial recognition, you've got a lot of intriguing possibilities with the features that 4.0 is bringing.
    10-14-2011 04:31 AM
  16. sblantipodi's Avatar
    He's probably referring to how much they've packed into the ICS update. It's going to be huge, a lot bigger than the Honeycomb or Gingerbread update was. They're unifying tablets and smartphones, it's not an easy task. They are multi-threading it to better operate on multi-core CPUs and have decreased the fragmentation of their OS by an incredible amount. NFC support, Facial recognition, you've got a lot of intriguing possibilities with the features that 4.0 is bringing.
    the problem is that honeycomb isn't that different than gingerbread.
    honeycomb is a gingerbread with a revamped UI and some new features to support different screen sizes.

    no huge difference like you think.
    10-14-2011 06:03 AM
  17. Tripsyk's Avatar
    no huge difference like you think.
    I never said Honeycomb was a huge difference. I said ICS is going to make a bigger difference than Honeycomb did. That's because yes, Honeycomb was pretty 'eh'.
    10-14-2011 06:31 AM
  18. BrianTufo's Avatar
    It was my understanding this phone was being released with ICS sometime within the next few weeks.. am I wrong?
    I meant good luck getting ICS on the SGSII soon. My bad didn't express what I meant right.
    10-14-2011 11:19 AM
  19. DenverRalphy's Avatar
    Here's what we know we'll get:

    1) A UI that finally takes full advantage of GPU acceleration, so we'll get a buttery-smooth UI like iOS and WP7.
    Has this been confirmed anywhere? I know a lot of people are hoping for it, but I've yet to see any confirmation.
    10-14-2011 11:52 AM
  20. jamesbrown33's Avatar
    Has this been confirmed anywhere? I know a lot of people are hoping for it, but I've yet to see any confirmation.
    Since ics is merging gingerbread and honeycomb and honeycomb has it, it should be in ics. Honeycomb tablets are held back by the fact that the gpu in the tegra 2 really sucks
    10-14-2011 11:59 AM
  21. koolbon's Avatar
    It is being reported that Chrome browser will be used in ICS, which was one of the things I wanted to see.
    10-14-2011 01:43 PM
  22. gdbjr's Avatar
    IMHO the only way ICS could be as "incredible" as he's making it out to be is to build a WebOS-like UI on top of android. Don't get me wrong, I like android and I'm happy that it will be less fragmented after this release but the UI could definitely use some improvement. Blackberry blatantly copied the WebOS UI, so why can't Google? I'm definitely looking forward to seeing what they added though. I also hope they update my Sprint GS2 shortly after the announcement. That would be incredible enough for me!
    Getting all devices on one OS will help with fragmentation, but you also have to get manufactors on board and stop will all the different processors. Unless the OS will elimiate the need for developers not worry about the hardware.

    *Still miffed that I couldn't get the free Madden app for my Bionic that VZ was giving away!
    10-14-2011 02:33 PM
  23. dsignori's Avatar
    Then it wouldn't be Android! I'm tired of folks always wanting Android to be like something else! I like Android because it's Android. If I wanted something that looked like ios I would get ios, and if I wanted a webOS phone, then guess what I would get? If people aren't happy with what Android is, then go to the OS you wish it would be like, and save yourself the trouble. Android is Android, and shouldn't look, or try to be like anything else but Android.
    Android is .. functional. I don't know that very many people would call Android beautiful, for example. Just because the OS works well (and way better than iOS IMO), doesn't mean that it can't be more cohesive, have a more unified look throughout it, and yes, be more beautiful . Android is very functional, but in my opinion a bit bland and somewhat uninspired. iOS may not FUNCTION the way I need it, but it sure looks nice, has beautiful fluid transitions, and a tightly integrated, unified look and feel throughout.

    One can enjoy Android, but at the same time aspire to improvements on it. So yes I am "happy with what Android is", but I still want it improved. I think we all should ...
    scotty_pimmpen and Mooem like this.
    10-14-2011 02:56 PM
  24. Silent Patriot's Avatar
    Did someone already guess dockable tablet sized screen/battery option w/possible slide-out keyboard?
    10-14-2011 03:15 PM
  25. TenshiNo's Avatar
    So far in the videos it looks so-so. Some good stuff but nothing that makes it an industry changer.
    Getting the hardware acceleration of the UI going might not be industry changing, but it will definitely kill, once and for all, the ridiculous complaint I hear from a lot of the "iFaithful" that the screen doesn't scroll as smooth. I'm all for taking away that ridiculous argument.

    Is it really that big of a deal breaker that the app drawer doesn't scroll as smooth???
    10-14-2011 03:48 PM
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