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  1. sushiglobster's Avatar
    ...is different.

    Maybe? Possibly?

    Think about this:

    We know that there are 2 versions of this phone. GSM and LTE. That is fact.

    We also know this because the specs mention a 16GB and a 32GB version of the phone. And with no SD card, that means two phones. That means one version of this GS will have 16 and the other will have 32.

    Verizon seems to have a thing for 16GB cards/internal space. History has shown that.

    We know that there was early speculation about 2 different phones with 2 different HW specs or at least with similar specs. Where originally did the rumor of a 1.5Ghz TI OMAP come from? It's not just something you make up or pull random numbers from. If that be the case, one could have said it would be a 1.6 or 1.7 ....2.0ghz cpu. All I'm saying is that it came from somewhere.

    We know they announced the phone today...but only brushed on the LTE version a bit and that the HSPA+ version will be "this thickness..." never talking about the thickness of the LTE version.

    There was NO mention of Verizon at all...just "LTE" Not even any US carriers. Which makes sense...read on...

    Then there is the market at which they announced the phone in today. You don't announce or talk about the U.S. version of the phone in a non-LTE, Non-US market. You talk about and introduce a phone for THAT specific market, which is what they did. They spoke about the Non-US carriers saying that it would go international later on. I think that if you are not in the US market, then everyone else is international. We think of everyone else who is NOT in America as being international, but flip that now...you're in a different country...now America is considered international. Know what I mean? Other countries are considered international depending on where you live. Here in the US everyone besides us is considered international. If you are in China for example, then the US becomes part of everything international.

    Consider this too: Verizon didn't get the Samsung Galaxy S2. We know that and we also know they passed on it because something much beefier was coming down the pipe to Verizon. As we saw today, the specs are on par if not slightly below spec-wise with the Galaxy S2. Now I'm not going to go in to how the specs of this new Nexus are better than the S2. I think the Nexus specs are fine and ICS should be great with it. I'm just mentioning how people weren't blown away by the specs. onward now...

    I can't help but feel that their announcement, had it been in San Diego like originally scheduled, we would have seen a different phone. I can't help but feel that today's announcement was bit sluggish...almost lack luster. You can tell it was thrown together rather than fully planned out. They had weeks...months to plan for the US version of today's announcement, but then they canceled it and moved it not only to a whole new time and date, but a whole new country!

    Then there is the SUB-dawg's thread here: http://forums.androidcentral.com/ver...hand-time.html

    The phone we saw today was a 1.2Ghz version of the phone. SUB-dawg claims he saw a 1.5Ghz version of the phone amongst other things like a 8MP camera. Of course this is all rumored as SUB-dawg isn't an official source, but he seemed damn confident in his responses and I don't think someone with 1000+ forum posts with his signature listing his Twitter and Google+ account would be trolling this forum.

    So what phone did he see? what was he using?

    Will the Verizon LTE version be of a slightly different spec?

    What do you guys think? I can't help but think that there is possibly something to this.

    EDIT: I read about this image and finally found it.

    near the bottom of the image, read: "* Specifications above may differ on the LTE version."

    possible more proof of a different version coming to Verizon?
    10-19-2011 01:09 AM
  2. Stein357's Avatar
    I think the LTE version may be a bit thicker, but the specs will remain the same.
    10-19-2011 01:12 AM
  3. zeuswsu's Avatar
    Couple of thoughts....

    I figure the 16/32 is refering to 2 different options to choose from at launch. Much like apple does with the iphones.

    Im guessing samsung underclocked the processor to 1.2 to save battery life. The phone seems really speedy at 1.2 so they probably thought the battery savings was worth it.


    I think subdawg was just misinformed on the camera.
    10-19-2011 01:17 AM
  4. sushiglobster's Avatar
    But you've gotta admit. Some interesting things to think about...
    10-19-2011 01:23 AM
  5. Andrew Ruffolo's Avatar
    1.5 Ghz came from what TI rates its processor at. It is likely underclocked to 1.2Ghz for battery life purposes. When the kernel source is released, we are likely to easily ee 1.5 which isn't really overclocked, and much higher as well as undervolted.

    My thunderbolt has a total of 40GB of storage with its 32GB card (the 8 internal isn't really available for anything.. just somehow has 8GB and only 2 of it is free for apps). I believe we will likely see both a 16GB and a 32GB model. Now to see if I want the 16GB. I use cloud services for everything and also have an unlimited data plan... so it could be tempting, but I was setting aside money for a 32GB phone, so I'll likely just get that (i like having the space, even if I don't use it all).

    Is it possible that the VZW model has a 1.5Ghz processor and 8MP camera... absolutely, but not likely. Really I'm just anxious for the screen. When I'm outdoors, I can't see my Tbolts screen when trying to take pictures. Doesn't matter if I have 8MP if I'm aimlessly shooting. I'll take the lower MP for the better sensor.

    I guess my biggest reason for getting this phone is:
    I really like AOSP. I love CM7 on my thunderbolt and Slahyer did an amazing job with this build. However, I cannot get work e-mail on my device as they require a screen shot of the "about phone" and will not allow a phone with a custom kernel for initiation of the exchange account. I plan on getting this phone and setting it up unrooted... then switching to a possible cm8 ROM once its built. I can't transfer an activated SenseUI mail to an AOSP mail.

    I'm excited for the device even though I love my Thunderbolt. I may keep it for development purposes.
    10-19-2011 01:25 AM
  6. sushiglobster's Avatar
    Haha, yea I can't see with my OG droid screen in the sun. It's awful.

    And yup. I'm all about a better camera rather than more MPs. I'll take sensors and lens over MPs any day.
    10-19-2011 01:26 AM
  7. sushiglobster's Avatar
    Couple of thoughts....

    I figure the 16/32 is refering to 2 different options to choose from at launch. Much like apple does with the iphones.

    Im guessing samsung underclocked the processor to 1.2 to save battery life. The phone seems really speedy at 1.2 so they probably thought the battery savings was worth it.


    I think subdawg was just misinformed on the camera.
    But he mentioned that it had a 1.5Ghz TI OMAP.

    Sure though, I do side with the fact that it is probably underclocked to 1.2ghz. Nothing a new kernel couldn't fix.
    10-19-2011 01:28 AM
  8. fassy100's Avatar
    I just hope verizon gets the best version it seems big red always gets the low end devices just like the fascinate and the galaxy s line of phones
    10-19-2011 01:36 AM
  9. sushiglobster's Avatar
    I just hope verizon gets the best version it seems big red always gets the low end devices just like the fascinate and the galaxy s line of phones
    Well that's kind of summing up what I'm saying. Verizon needs a super phone. They have the RAZR now...but this is their chance to get a real mega super phone, something they didn't get when they passed on the Galaxy S2.
    10-19-2011 01:38 AM
  10. SpaceHippie's Avatar
    Only differences if any will be thickness and battery size. I can see Verizon putting in a 1800 mah to help with 4G battery.
    10-19-2011 01:39 AM
  11. kca2000's Avatar
    Im pretty sure the max clock for the 4430 is 1.2. Edit, Maybe not?

    4460 is 1.5 max. Has there been a confirmation that its a OMAP4460? Could go either way it seems with just the clock speed known.

    Ill take a 4460 at 1.2 all day, Like what was said above, Nothing a kernel couldnt fix at some point for a nice boost!
    10-19-2011 01:39 AM
  12. zenit#AC's Avatar
    a more likely scenario is that we will get a bloat-loaded Galaxy S2 LTE (phone that already exists in korea).

    With exception of original Droid, the phones we get on verizon are almost always outdated or inferior in some way. And always loaded with bloat.
    10-19-2011 01:41 AM
  13. SpaceHippie's Avatar
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  14. Andrew Ruffolo's Avatar
    10-19-2011 01:42 AM
  15. dbdynsty25's Avatar
    Afer seeing the design of the moto razr this morning I had high hopes for a really thin nexus and now I'm not so sure. I really want to get the nexus but if it's that much bigger than the moto I may just suck it up regardless of the fact that it'll probably take six months to get ics on it.
    10-19-2011 01:45 AM
  16. sushiglobster's Avatar
    Still though, the employee didn't elaborate.

    eeeeehhh huhhhh *nudge* *nudge*

    Maybe more stuff going on under that hood maybe....?
    10-19-2011 01:46 AM
  17. SpaceHippie's Avatar
    It won't be by alot. The droid Razr showed us the VZ is capable of fitting a 4G chip in a razor thin phone.
    10-19-2011 01:49 AM
  18. sushiglobster's Avatar
    Verizon is being awfully quiet about this Nexus device. It should be one of the biggest things to happen to that company in awhile.

    I wonder what gives.

    P3Droid from twitter says: "Did anyone notice that VZW was not mentioned? There is a reason for that. But don't worry, yet."
    10-19-2011 02:32 AM
  19. Mooem's Avatar
    Verizon is always quiet about their releases except with some exceptions. I imagine back door negotiations are still happening . :-(
    10-19-2011 06:57 AM
  20. kriEv's Avatar
    Im pretty sure Samsung told carriers to be quiet. Expect a lot of announcements today. Not just from Verizon.
    10-19-2011 07:07 AM
  21. zhawks's Avatar
    Just read that the LTE version of the Galaxy Nexus will be thicker than the HSPA+ version shown yesterday. Though no word on how much thicker, anyone else a little worried? Trying to decide if there is a point at which it could be too thick relative to the none Verizon version that it will come down to leaving Verizon or getting the Droid Razr.
    10-19-2011 09:19 AM
  22. FluxTZ's Avatar
    Link please?
    10-19-2011 09:21 AM
  23. DolfanCole's Avatar
    I'm not worried at all. But, thickness/thinness of a phone is not a really driver in whether I want to buy the phone or not.
    10-19-2011 09:23 AM
  24. phositadc's Avatar
    Just read that the LTE version of the Galaxy Nexus will be thicker than the HSPA+ version shown yesterday. Though no word on how much thicker, anyone else a little worried? Trying to decide if there is a point at which it could be too thick relative to the none Verizon version that it will come down to leaving Verizon or getting the Droid Razr.
    I'm most definitely worried, esp. since they wouldn't even say how much thicker. Honestly, I don't really care about LTE. The 5-10 mbps you get on AT&T HSPA+ would be more than enough for me (email, browsing, etc. I don't stream anything). I would take a thinner phone and better battery life if I could have my way.

    I'm curious to hear the carrier announcements. If the Galaxy Nexus will be available on AT&T or T-Mo around the same time that it is available on Verizon, I will probably switch over.
    10-19-2011 09:37 AM
  25. arctic388's Avatar
    actually want it to be thicker to maybe level out the back. i really dislike the way my charge has a hump on its back. it will not lay flat on desk and always wants to rotate the screen when i don't want it rotated.
    10-19-2011 09:43 AM
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