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  1. exempli_gratia's Avatar
    14.) 4.65" Screen
    Is it really? The area for the Virtual Buttons seems permanently set aside, so the visible screen space is more like 4.3". And not really HD (16:9) dimensions.

    Or is there a way to hide the buttons in some sort of full-screen mode? For video, for instance?
    10-26-2011 11:38 PM
  2. Lazerz's Avatar
    Is it really? The area for the Virtual Buttons seems permanently set aside, so the visible screen space is more like 4.3". And not really HD (16:9) dimensions.

    Or is there a way to hide the buttons in some sort of full-screen mode? For video, for instance?
    Galaxy Nexus
    10-26-2011 11:40 PM
  3. exempli_gratia's Avatar
    The video screen shots at the bottom do look to be fullscreen, hiding the buttons.

    Cool, so HD dimensions and 4.65" when watching video, while really same as hard-key 4.3".
    10-26-2011 11:47 PM
  4. hyperdude's Avatar
    How is GV more integrated into this phone? I'd like to go to it, but its still a bit of a hassle to cancel and get a new number and I guess you can't do MMS with it.
    Based on what I remember specifically from the announcement (and looking over the new features for developers), this whole "visual voicemail" deal everyone likes to talk about involves connecting a voicemail message (whether on the carrier's voicemail service or on GV) to specific phone calls and marking them in the call log. So Google Voice is able to interact more deeply with ICS than with previous version of Android, in being able to mark a missed call with a voicemail.

    I could be slightly wrong about that though.
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    10-26-2011 11:58 PM
  5. Lazerz's Avatar
    The video screen shots at the bottom do look to be fullscreen, hiding the buttons.

    Cool, so HD dimensions and 4.65" when watching video, while really same as hard-key 4.3".
    Correct. It's more of just a feature for when watching movies, but I'll take it.
    10-27-2011 12:04 AM
  6. qnet's Avatar
    But will that survive carrier meddling? Specifically VZW?

    How is GV more integrated into this phone? I'd like to go to it, but its still a bit of a hassle to cancel and get a new number and I guess you can't do MMS with it.

    In the presentation they showed visual voicemail being used with Google voice. It's never worked with other phones because the manufactures had their own software installed.

    GV is basically visual voicemail already but, this time it looks like it's part of the phone, which is a natural progression IMO.

    Every Nexus phone I've had, GV was one of the core apps. you set your port forwarding to your GV number and, if you already had a GV account you just open the app and signed in.

    I don't think VZW will mess with it or have anything to do with it. In a pure Android phone you can set up call forwarding through the settings. On phones that are bloated and have custom software (like Motoblur) you have to dial *71 and your google voice number to manually forward it.

    It was a pain to set it up on my bionic until I figured it out. With the Galaxy nexus, I don't think this will be a porblem. We won't know for sure until we get the phone but, I don't think it will be a issue.
    10-27-2011 12:29 AM
  7. qnet's Avatar
    Based on what I remember specifically from the announcement (and looking over the new features for developers), this whole "visual voicemail" deal everyone likes to talk about involves connecting a voicemail message (whether on the carrier's voicemail service or on GV) to specific phone calls and marking them in the call log. So Google Voice is able to interact more deeply with ICS than with previous version of Android, in being able to mark a missed call with a voicemail.

    I could be slightly wrong about that though.
    Your not wrong, I think you explained it very well, better than I have, I didn't see your post before.
    10-27-2011 12:33 AM
  8. kath00's Avatar
    If I use GV, will that phone number show up on outgoing calls or will my true cel number show in their caller id?

    Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk
    10-27-2011 02:33 AM
  9. phantomash's Avatar
    The video screen shots at the bottom do look to be fullscreen, hiding the buttons.

    Cool, so HD dimensions and 4.65" when watching video, while really same as hard-key 4.3".
    However I bet there will be tweaks from custom ROM or root apps that will enable users to hide the software keys (i.e Honeybar)
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    10-27-2011 03:23 AM
  10. qnet's Avatar
    If I use GV, will that phone number show up on outgoing calls or will my true cel number show in their caller id?

    Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk
    It doesn't have to, it just depends how you set it up. If you want to just use it for voicemail, then you can select to not use GV to make outgoing calls.

    After you install GV and, make a call, a window will pop up, prompting you which to use, your GV number or regular cell number. At time you will be given the chance to choose which one and, check to always use that number by default and, you won't see the window again. You can also do this through the settings.

    I'm not sure how the Galaxy Nexus will be but, this is how my past Android phones have done. Once we get our phones, if anyone needs help, I'll be glad to help as I'm sure many others will also.
    10-27-2011 07:35 AM
  11. dsignori's Avatar
    In the presentation they showed visual voicemail being used with Google voice. It's never worked with other phones because the manufactures had their own software installed.

    ...
    This isn't true actually. GV voice email is really really easy to set up on any Android phone. I have it on my Fascinate (VZW bloat on board) working fine. I use just the visual voice mail part of GV and I love it, and it works flawlessly.

    Perhaps you meant something different though above, if so I apologize.
    10-27-2011 07:39 AM
  12. qnet's Avatar
    This isn't true actually. GV voice email is really really easy to set up on any Android phone. I have it on my Fascinate (VZW bloat on board) working fine. I use just the visual voice mail part of GV and I love it, and it works flawlessly.

    Perhaps you meant something different though above, if so I apologize.
    I just meant the Visual Voicemail part, that's built into the phones software; not the email or GV itself. Like you said GV is visual itself when you open the app or when you receive emails or text when getting a message.

    I've got GV to work well on all my Android phones and, even the Iphone but, the visual voicemail part was always tied to the carrier.

    I think people are concerned that Verizon will try to take over the visual voicemail that seems to be built into ICS now. After thinking about it, I admit I'm concerned about this also since you can't use the VVM built into IOS on the Iphone unless you connect through VZW. ( I could be wrong because I haven't actually tried it)

    I'm leaning to thinking it won't be a problem based on how they showed it working in the presentation. Like hyperdude mentioned, when you miss or ignore a call, it will show up in the call log as a visual message, no matter what you choose to use for your voicemail GV or VZW.
    10-27-2011 08:07 AM
  13. DenverRalphy's Avatar
    I don't think VZW will mess with it or have anything to do with it. In a pure Android phone you can set up call forwarding through the settings. On phones that are bloated and have custom software (like Motoblur) you have to dial *71 and your google voice number to manually forward it.
    If you add your phone to GV via the web browser on your desktop, it'll automatically perform the actions needed to forward your voicemail to GV. The process prompts you to select the carrier you are with, and it's done lickity split.
    10-27-2011 08:35 AM
  14. Andrew Ruffolo's Avatar
    Correct. It's more of just a feature for when watching movies, but I'll take it.
    question though, and we may have to wait until more reviewers have the device in hand... How do you exit out if the only buttons are gone during video playback and other full screen apps? Like, lets say I'm kicking *** in Angry Birds, but my boss walks in, how do I get out of the app? I'm pretty sure we'll be able to hide the buttons for some things, but thats why I wanted to believe the touch sensitive bezel, cause it would have been genius (or annyoing).
    10-27-2011 08:46 AM
  15. Lazerz's Avatar
    question though, and we may have to wait until more reviewers have the device in hand... How do you exit out if the only buttons are gone during video playback and other full screen apps? Like, lets say I'm kicking *** in Angry Birds, but my boss walks in, how do I get out of the app? I'm pretty sure we'll be able to hide the buttons for some things, but thats why I wanted to believe the touch sensitive bezel, cause it would have been genius (or annyoing).
    There will be "dot" indicators where the bottons should be. I think there is video of it. Watch a few more hands-on videos and watch the lower part of the screen to see what appears when the buttons go away. Faint LED dots glow just enough to idicate where the buttons are, and if you pres them, the buttons appear again. At least, this is what was shows during the vidoes...
    10-27-2011 10:33 AM
  16. Hosehead's Avatar
    Finally a non-whining thread....

    Thanks to the OP and all who contributed to this one. It is refreshing...
    10-27-2011 11:27 AM
  17. dsignori's Avatar
    I like:

    - The new contacts (people) app

    - The new reject-with-text dialer (love it on my Touch Wiz Fascinate now, glad it is coming to ICS stock).

    - The fast camera (hopefully the quality is good as well), and the photo-within-video shot capability.

    - WiFi direct, if it works well

    - Just about everything I saw about ICS looks awesome (except the virtual buttons, I'll reserve judgement on that until I have it in hand).
    10-27-2011 12:11 PM
  18. BRIVERS73's Avatar
    ICS & Display...
    10-27-2011 12:23 PM
  19. joelp228#AC's Avatar
    Nfc is nice but, not a deal-breaker for me. I'm actually a little leery of having my credit card info on my phone but, if someone is going to steal it, they may have access to that through my Google account anyway. I like NFC because it seems real futuristic but, there are risks involved as with anything else.

    I wonder if there is a way to remote wipe the phone if it's stolen, like Apple has.
    You should check out the app SeekDroid. It's a great app with many cool features that lets you track and swipe your phone from a computer if it is ever stolen.
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    10-27-2011 12:40 PM
  20. qnet's Avatar
    I like:

    - The new contacts (people) app

    - The new reject-with-text dialer (love it on my Touch Wiz Fascinate now, glad it is coming to ICS stock).

    - The fast camera (hopefully the quality is good as well), and the photo-within-video shot capability.

    - WiFi direct, if it works well

    - Just about everything I saw about ICS looks awesome (except the virtual buttons, I'll reserve judgement on that until I have it in hand).
    Yeah, those are some nice features also. You all are reminding of stuff I had forgotten.

    Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk
    10-27-2011 02:35 PM
  21. hyperdude's Avatar
    To settle most questions on how the "Visual Voicemail" in ICS works:
    Android 4.0 Platform | Android Developers

    Voicemail Provider

    The new Voicemail Provider allows applications to add voicemails to the device, in order to present all the user's voicemails in a single visual presentation. For instance, its possible that a user has multiple voicemail sources, such as one from the phones service provider and others from VoIP or other alternative voice services. These apps can use the Voicemail Provider APIs to add their voicemails to the device. The built-in Phone application then presents all voicemails to the user in a unified presentation. Although the systems Phone application is the only application that can read all the voicemails, each application that provides voicemails can read those that it has added to the system (but cannot read voicemails from other services).

    Because the APIs currently do not allow third-party apps to read all the voicemails from the system, the only third-party apps that should use the voicemail APIs are those that have voicemail to deliver to the user.

    The VoicemailContract class defines the content provider for the Voicemail Provder. The subclasses VoicemailContract.Voicemails and VoicemailContract.Status provide tables in which apps can insert voicemail data for storage on the device. For an example of a voicemail provider app, see the Voicemail Provider Demo.
    So, apps which can deliver voicemail (e.g. Google Voice, VZW's Visual VM...) can have their messages read by the Phone app. Which means that Verizon could make their Visual VM app work with ICS. And Google Voice will (or at least should hopefully) work with it right off the bat.

    What I like about the Galaxy Nexus:
    - Pure Android 4.0 (this will be my second smartphone, upgrading from my OG Droid - the only previous pure Android on Verizon)
    - Display
    - NFC and its capabilities
    - Pogo-Pin for charging
    - 4G LTE
    - All the stuff that's coming in ICS (which isn't specific to the GN, but still )
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    10-28-2011 12:31 AM
  22. pmugghc's Avatar
    Here is a greek video which shows how a video uses the whole screen, incl button area:



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