10-31-2011 05:44 PM
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  1. Friend-O's Avatar
    Is it true that the Google search bar is located at the top of every ICS home screen and can't be removed (as in, it's not simply a widget)? That's what I've heard and the videos I've seen certainly appear to indicate that. If so, that's really annoying. I rarely ever use the search function and don't want it cluttering ONE home screen, never mind all of them. I'd rather have the extra screen real estate to do what I want with.
    fstop likes this.
    10-27-2011 08:41 PM
  2. xAGx#AC's Avatar
    The homescreens still have a 4x4 space for widgets and icons I believe. I don't really use the search bar either, but I may start now. I also think its transparent enough to not really get in the way.
    10-27-2011 09:05 PM
  3. ADOLFOHERNANDEZ's Avatar
    That would not be a real trouble for me, as long as the hardware issues and lacks could be resolved once and forever!

    Sent from my rooted GT-P1010
    10-27-2011 09:11 PM
  4. Friend-O's Avatar
    Oh, don't get me wrong, it's far from a deal-breaker considering all of the strengths this phone has. I was just really surprised when I learned this and had to find SOMETHING to complain about...otherwise, the phone would be perfect and we can't have that, now can we?
    10-27-2011 09:17 PM
  5. EggoEspada's Avatar
    Yea, I can see the annoyance, but I think it looks nice and should help the average user more. I don't mind it one bit.
    10-27-2011 09:30 PM
  6. infernalman7's Avatar
    It's far from a deal-breaker, true. But Android has been standing for its flexibility and customization.

    Hence why CM8 might be the answer.
    10-27-2011 10:28 PM
  7. dustinb's Avatar
    I wonder how Replacement Launchers will handle it. I imagine you'll just have that extra screen real estate. At least that's what I'm hoping for.
    10-27-2011 10:29 PM
  8. hyperdude's Avatar
    It's far from a deal-breaker, true. But Android has been standing for its flexibility and customization.

    Hence why CM8 might be the answer.
    CM9, actually - CM8 never happened as far as the CyanogenMod team is concerned.

    I wonder how Replacement Launchers will handle it. I imagine you'll just have that extra screen real estate. At least that's what I'm hoping for.
    I can't think of a reason why third-party launchers would have the perpetual search bar overlay. At least I hope so lol
    All I know is I'm definitely a fan of the favorites tray addition they FINALLY worked into the stock launcher.
    10-27-2011 11:53 PM
  9. Officerpolabear's Avatar
    CM9, actually - CM8 never happened as far as the CyanogenMod team is concerned.


    I can't think of a reason why third-party launchers would have the perpetual search bar overlay. At least I hope so lol
    All I know is I'm definitely a fan of the favorites tray addition they FINALLY worked into the stock launcher.
    This might actually be the first stock launcher I can keep but I might miss having 7 homescreens, I like having them
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    10-28-2011 01:08 AM
  10. ottscay's Avatar
    I think the baked-in search bar may have been implemented to solve a UX conflict - they clearly wanted 4 "buttons", but in general people don't recognize more than three items intuitively - obviously we can and do learn to count and use larger numbers, but in terms of basic intuitive observation we see "1, 2, 3, many". So having only 3 buttons on the bottom should be less intimidating and easier to grasp for first time users, while the bar at the top means that search is still as easy to access as it ever was. It even gives search a place of extra prominence, which Google might not be terribly averse to.
    10-28-2011 01:57 AM
  11. Mooem's Avatar
    I think the baked-in search bar may have been implemented to solve a UX conflict - they clearly wanted 4 "buttons", but in general people don't recognize more than three items intuitively - obviously we can and do learn to count and use larger numbers, but in terms of basic intuitive observation we see "1, 2, 3, many". So having only 3 buttons on the bottom should be less intimidating and easier to grasp for first time users, while the bar at the top means that search is still as easy to access as it ever was. It even gives search a place of extra prominence, which Google might not be terribly averse to.
    This makes complete sense. Although does this mean using search within the context of an app wont happen anymore? Perhaps contextual searching will available through an action bar of sorts. I guess we'll see soon enough.
    10-28-2011 04:48 AM
  12. elvisgp's Avatar
    U can just use a new launcher. And if u don't want to then suck it up and move on. Lol. Sry. I needed to get my rant out. These forums are just filled with people complaining about the stupidest problems.

    sent from my Droid X, which also eats iPhones.
    10-28-2011 07:45 AM
  13. clucernoni's Avatar
    I can say that I am going to miss the dedicated search button. I think it's so useful. I don't really see why you would want to make people put search functionality right in an application when you could have a button with multiple uses (short press vs long press). I have been on android since the beginning and I never used the google search bar because the dedicated search button did all that i needed and takes very little screen space.
    10-28-2011 08:31 AM
  14. Xephik's Avatar
    I only use the search button for two functions regularly:

    1. To go into apps that I've hidden in the LPP app drawer

    2. Before the newest market, I would hit search as soon as I went in because there was no delay after pressing it. I hate how the new market wont let you search until it loads fully
    10-28-2011 10:18 AM
  15. Adrynalyne's Avatar
    Here is whats going to be funny.

    Everyone is going to abandon the ICS launcher for something else, and then complain because the launcher they went to isnt hw accelerated

    That list would include:

    ADW
    LPP
    Stang68 likes this.
    10-28-2011 10:31 AM
  16. DenverRalphy's Avatar
    Here is whats going to be funny.

    Everyone is going to abandon the ICS launcher for something else, and then complain because the launcher they went to isnt hw accelerated

    That list would include:

    ADW
    LPP
    I'm sure 3rd party launchers will update to take advantage of hw acceleration. Maybe not right at launch, but I wouldn't expect it to take long.
    10-28-2011 11:15 AM
  17. Adrynalyne's Avatar
    I wouldn't count on it being quick. It will likely require a complete rewrite.
    10-28-2011 11:20 AM
  18. greydarrah's Avatar
    The best thing would be for Google to release an update that allows some customization. Barring that, it's like anything else that is new, we'll get used to it and start hating everything that is different.
    10-28-2011 11:49 AM
  19. qnet's Avatar
    Here is whats going to be funny.

    Everyone is going to abandon the ICS launcher for something else, and then complain because the launcher they went to isnt hw accelerated

    That list would include:

    ADW
    LPP
    I'm probably never going it install another launcher. The only reason I ever install launchers is to get away from the manufacture's UI. I like the way ICS looks and operates and don't know of any launcher that looks better IMO.
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    10-28-2011 12:20 PM
  20. hyperdude's Avatar
    I'm probably never going it install another launcher. The only reason I ever install launchers is to get away from the manufacture's UI. I like the way ICS looks and operates and don't know of any launcher that looks better IMO.
    Same here. The only reason I ever started using third-party launchers was I wanted to be able to dock shortcuts on the bottom of the homescreens (which before now AOSP didn't have).

    I wouldn't count on it being quick. It will likely require a complete rewrite.
    Actually, looking through the API changes for 4.0, hardware acceleration is enabled by default for apps targeting ICS.
    10-28-2011 12:25 PM
  21. Stang68's Avatar
    I don't plan on installing a launcher over ICS. We lose a bunch of it's functionality. Sure, I love LPP, but with no crappy skins like Blur or TW on the Nexus, I don't see a reason for LPP.
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    10-28-2011 01:52 PM
  22. nemov's Avatar
    I don't plan on installing a launcher over ICS. We lose a bunch of it's functionality. Sure, I love LPP, but with no crappy skins like Blur or TW on the Nexus, I don't see a reason for LPP.
    LPP came in handy when the OG Droid didn't have enough home screens. It was a great way to add more.
    10-28-2011 01:54 PM
  23. Stang68's Avatar
    LPP came in handy when the OG Droid didn't have enough home screens. It was a great way to add more.
    Definitely true. Hopefully Fede updates LP soon, but it seems like he has abandoned it all-together. I doubt we'll see it mimic the ICS features anytime soon. I'll miss my swipe actions in LPP, but it's definitely not worth missing out on the whole ICS look and feel (and widget functionality).
    10-28-2011 02:08 PM
  24. jerrod6's Avatar
    I have the OG Droid and moved the Google search to one of farthest screens because I have the search key. Without the search key I will use Google search....no problem.


    On every homescreen? Well with Google Search on every screen there is no way to confuse this phone display with an iPhone is it?
    10-28-2011 03:56 PM
  25. fstop's Avatar
    It is going to be a deal breaker for me. Don't know what they are thinking. Just took a major high priced real estate away. That spot I usually have Beautiful Weather widget. If I go to a third party launcher, then I have to hope that it is hardware accelerated.

    To me that search bar is just fugly and completely unnecessary. A separate button is just perfect and something I used ALL the time. In fact that is what I use to demo my Android phones to others. Look, a dedicated search button because it is after all a Google phone!

    What a shame. Beautiful phone with a major wart right on the nose. Frustrating.
    10-28-2011 08:16 PM
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