11-06-2011 12:25 PM
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  1. Poopai's Avatar
    Well then I think the people you know are more enamored by specs than reality. Its widely known that the NS keeps up with dual cores in every day tasks. Every time I hand mine to someone with the next new big dual core, they're always surprised by how fast my old phone is. My source is my experience with many dual cores and the fact that i keep coming back to the Nexus because they have nothing on it yet. Specs and benchmarks mean nothing in real life. The Nexus is the only Android phone with a solid 1+ year top of the line life span.
    Yes, and my OG Droid "keeps up" with the Nexus S and will also keep up with the Galaxy Nexus. Shenanigans. Specs and benchmarks ARE what matter because there is hardly a day to day difference in anything else.

    Perhaps you should buy an original iPhone off Ebay if specs and benchmarks aren't what matter to you. You'll save a lot of money.
    11-02-2011 10:33 PM
  2. Adrynalyne's Avatar
    Ok, tone it down folks.


    Not gonna ask it again.


    Be civil or move on.
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    11-02-2011 10:42 PM
  3. TheDave's Avatar
    Back to the OP and his question.

    Im not disappointed. The HD screen is beautiful, ICS is what an OS should be, and the 1.2 OMAP4460 is the best out there in overall performance right now, IMHO.

    Plus I can get JellyBean and not deal with bloatware...*shivers*
    11-02-2011 10:49 PM
  4. reflekt2099's Avatar
    there will always be "a better phone" on the horizon that will probably be coming out in 3-6 months (the trashy bionic took almost an entire year to be released...lol). if you have that kind of mentality, you're just gonna be stuck with your old phone and waiting forever; stuck in a vicious cycle.

    look at a phone and see if it fits your needs and what you'll be using it for, for today and for the next 2 years. for me, i feel like the galaxy nexus is as future proof as i need it to be.

    it'll have a processor optimized to run an OS, ICS, with zero lag. it'll have a 1280x720 HD high resolution screen that phones coming in the future will only start to utilize. it'll be one of the first phones with NFC, which is becoming an evolutionary piece of technology that developers are finding clever ways of implementing.

    and of course, one of the biggest selling points is that the galaxy nexus is a Google Nexus device, which means my phone will always be one of the first to get updates and run the latest software released from Google. i won't have to wait months...and months...and months just to run froyo or gingerbread. no bloat. no skins running on top of vanilla android 4.0 ICS to slow my user experience down. just a straight and silky smooth google experience. the way Google wants their phone to run. with the freedom (since it's a samsung phone, and not a motorola or htc phone with locked bootloaders) to most likely be a part of a huge developer environment with the option to root and utilize even more optimized kernels and custom ROMS.

    my only real concern is the battery life. but that's a concern with any phone that comes out. i'm interested to see if the phone can get some good battery life, with the processor it has, the huge beautiful screen the phone is powering, and 4G LTE.
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    11-02-2011 11:23 PM
  5. Poopai's Avatar
    there will always be "a better phone" on the horizon that will probably be coming out in 3-6 months (the trashy bionic took almost an entire year to be released...lol). if you have that kind of mentality, you're just gonna be stuck with your old phone and waiting forever; stuck in a vicious cycle.
    This really isn't the case. There's more of a yearly cycle, with small incremental upgrades in between that usually aren't worth waiting for.
    11-02-2011 11:53 PM
  6. reflekt2099's Avatar
    This really isn't the case. There's more of a yearly cycle, with small incremental upgrades in between that usually aren't worth waiting for.
    not true. there's an almost yearly cycle for the iPhone. but it's completely the opposite for android phones. there's a new android phone with improved specs coming out practically monthly (or what i said, every 3-6 months)
    11-03-2011 12:03 AM
  7. ShinyTop's Avatar
    Actually iPhone is on two years with incremental on the off years.
    11-03-2011 12:06 AM
  8. Poopai's Avatar
    not true. there's an almost yearly cycle for the iPhone. but it's completely the opposite for android phones. there's a new android phone with improved specs coming out practically monthly (or what i said, every 3-6 months)
    No, in 3-6 months it will go from 1ghz to 1.2ghz with improvement in no other areas, which isn't worth waiting for. Yearly, across most releasing phones around the same time, the processing speed will double, ram will increase, screen res will increase (screen res came a bit early in this case, but it's a general trend), and camera MP will increase.
    11-03-2011 12:37 AM
  9. reflekt2099's Avatar
    Actually iPhone is on two years with incremental on the off years.
    really? hmm...I don't see how there's "two years with incremental on and off years" for the iPhone.

    iPhone - 2007
    iPhone 3G - June 9, 2008
    iPhone 3GS - June 8, 2009
    iPhone 4 - June 7, 2010
    iPhone 4S - October 14, 2011

    like I said, the iPhone has an almost yearly cycle.
    11-03-2011 12:48 AM
  10. reflekt2099's Avatar
    No, in 3-6 months it will go from 1ghz to 1.2ghz with improvement in no other areas, which isn't worth waiting for. Yearly, across most releasing phones around the same time, the processing speed will double, ram will increase, screen res will increase (screen res came a bit early in this case, but it's a general trend), and camera MP will increase.
    you're missing the point. what i'm saying is that android phones get released every time you glance at a weekly best buy ad. and a lot of people on these forums freak out about the latest phone that's going to get released and can't decide what to get. but by the time it gets a few weeks before the phone they wanted gets released, they ponder whether to wait for that next phone on the horizon because somehow the phone they originally wanted seems outdated "spec wise".

    what i'm saying is that the galaxy nexus is that future proof type of phone that you can live with for a long period of time and not worry too much about the quad-cores, the tegra 3's, etc. isn't that the point of this thread? being dissapointed about the specs of the galaxy nexus? and i'm saying that i'm not dissapointed. i'm happy with it, and just as happy as i was when i first heard about the phone.
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    11-03-2011 12:55 AM
  11. Poopai's Avatar
    you're missing the point. what i'm saying is that android phones get released every time you glance at a weekly best buy ad. and a lot of people on these forums freak out about the latest phone that's going to get released and can't decide what to get. but by the time it gets a few weeks before the phone they wanted gets released, they ponder whether to wait for that next phone on the horizon because somehow the phone they originally wanted seems outdated "spec wise".
    You're missing my point, which is that those android phones which come out every week are generally exactly the same as the phone you're already looking at, or are so incrementally better as to be not worth the wait.

    what i'm saying is that the galaxy nexus is that future proof type of phone that you can live with for a long period of time and not worry too much about the quad-cores, the tegra 3's, etc.
    The Nexus is one of the least future proof phones, coming out so late in the yearly "worthy" spec cycle.
    11-03-2011 01:04 AM
  12. reflekt2099's Avatar
    You're missing my point, which is that those android phones which come out every week are generally exactly the same as the phone you're already looking at, or are so incrementally better as to be not worth the wait.



    The Nexus is one of the least future proof phones, coming out so late in the yearly "worthy" spec cycle.
    actually, i disregarded your "point" cuz it doesn't make any logical sense, so it wasn't really worth acknowledging. it's a fact, a lot of people stress about "incremental" improvements on newer phones. would your rather have a 1.0Ghz phone? or a 1.5Ghz phone? would you rather have a single core or dual core? 512mb of RAM? or 1GB of RAM? PowerVR? or Mali-400?

    the galaxy nexus, in my opinion, is the best future proof phone that I can feel comfortable purchasing, and using for the next 2 years without missing out on any "incremental" or significant features that phones in the near future will start to have in the masses.

    so i'm guessing you ARE dissappointed in the Galaxy Nexus and NOT purchasing it? you're decision. but i'm going to be happy with my purchase of the galaxy nexus.
    11-03-2011 01:19 AM
  13. jamesbrown33's Avatar
    actually, i disregarded your "point" cuz it doesn't make any logical sense, so it wasn't really worth acknowledging. it's a fact, a lot of people stress about "incremental" improvements on newer phones. would your rather have a 1.0Ghz phone? or a 1.5Ghz phone? would you rather have a single core or dual core? 512mb of RAM? or 1GB of RAM? PowerVR? or Mali-400?

    the galaxy nexus, in my opinion, is the best future proof phone that I can feel comfortable purchasing, and using for the next 2 years without missing out on any "incremental" or significant features that phones in the near future will start to have in the masses.

    so i'm guessing you ARE dissappointed in the Galaxy Nexus and NOT purchasing it? you're decision. but i'm going to be happy with my purchase of the galaxy nexus.
    He's just disappointed that the nexus is coming out in time for the holiday shopping season instead of waiting for kal-el. He is saying that the 1.2ghz dual core SoC is only marginally better than what was available earlier in the year and that waiting for kal-el would be a bigger jump over what is available now. There is a point to be had for this, but google wants a phone to showcase ics and I would rather have the galaxy nexus release as it is and have ics now, then have ics wait for quad core SoCs, which as I have detailed elsewhere will not be that big of a jump in the vast majority of circumstances
    11-03-2011 01:29 AM
  14. Poopai's Avatar
    it's a fact, a lot of people stress about "incremental" improvements on newer phones.
    And they are wrong to do so. However, you are wrongly comparing the coming improvement to an incremental upgrade. This is the yearly upgrade coming, something which is worth stressing over and waiting for.

    the galaxy nexus, in my opinion, is the best future proof phone that I can feel comfortable purchasing, and using for the next 2 years without missing out on any "incremental" or significant features that phones in the near future will start to have in the masses.
    How did you come to that conclusion when a non-incremental upgrade is the one that's around the corner?
    11-03-2011 01:30 AM
  15. Cory Streater's Avatar
    You guys are clearly not in agreement and I don't think minds are going to change.
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    11-03-2011 03:58 AM
  16. humpagardengnome's Avatar
    Just to be argumentative...HTC makes panorama shots just as easy and has at least two phones with zero shutter lag. The Rezound will likely be the same way.
    Lil off topic, from the performance of those 2 htc cams, you noted. I'm interested to see how the new Vivid shoots 1080p @ 60fps.
    11-03-2011 04:22 AM
  17. humpagardengnome's Avatar
    Opinions are like aholes....Everyone has one and they all stink.
    So stop fighting.
    Guess, those 2 guys, didn't have their hearing aids on.
    11-03-2011 04:36 AM
  18. tntdroid's Avatar
    really? hmm...I don't see how there's "two years with incremental on and off years" for the iPhone.

    iPhone - 2007
    iPhone 3G - June 9, 2008
    iPhone 3GS - June 8, 2009
    iPhone 4 - June 7, 2010
    iPhone 4S - October 14, 2011

    like I said, the iPhone has an almost yearly cycle.
    I think he was getting at they do a major update every other year. That's how it looks. The 4s is not much different than the 4. I'm sure the 5 will have a new look and neat things. Then a minor update for something like a 5q.

    Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk
    11-03-2011 06:13 AM
  19. crzycrkr's Avatar
    Yes, and my OG Droid "keeps up" with the Nexus S and will also keep up with the Galaxy Nexus. Shenanigans. Specs and benchmarks ARE what matter because there is hardly a day to day difference in anything else.

    Perhaps you should buy an original iPhone off Ebay if specs and benchmarks aren't what matter to you. You'll save a lot of money.
    Wow, just, wow. Again and again you prove your ignorance. The OG Droid keeps up with the Nexus? Lmao! There is no noticeable difference in say to day performance between the NS and any of the 3 dual cores I've put it up against. The first one that even made me think of giving it up was the SGSII. If you really believe performance is equated on paper, then buy for specs, but again, you're wrong. Maybe you're the one who should buy the iPhone, because you obviously have no clue about Android phones, lol.
    11-03-2011 06:16 AM
  20. crzycrkr's Avatar
    You're missing my point, which is that those android phones which come out every week are generally exactly the same as the phone you're already looking at, or are so incrementally better as to be not worth the wait.



    The Nexus is one of the least future proof phones, coming out so late in the yearly "worthy" spec cycle.
    Lmao, wow, more ignorance. Keep shoveling, lol
    11-03-2011 06:17 AM
  21. obi5683's Avatar
    Would have really liked a Nexus, but I think I'm going to wait for the Padfone which was just said to come in February with quad-core and a tablet dock.

    If the Nexus came with 1.5ghz (I know the 4460 is rated for 1.5ghz and I can clock it to that, but rooting is too bothersome because I can't update with it) and a competitive GPU, I'd get it, but that not being the case and it being rather cheap and ugly make me lean towards waiting. Also, megapixels do matter. The 5 MP pics don't look anything special, and I like to zoom around my pictures. I'd rather have more MP than a quick shutter.
    Quality over quantity. I guarantee that my Galaxy Nexus will take better photos than my Droid Incredible. Rooting is not hard and the day an update comes out, someone has a rooted version. With root comes flexibility.

    I really want to know what people expect to run on their phones with a high end GPU. Software is usually built for the lowest common denominator, or even somewhere in the middle. Only games designed specifically for Tegra chipsets are designed to push the GPU.
    11-03-2011 07:19 AM
  22. Eric Kane's Avatar
    I'm lost on how the Galaxy Nexus is only an "incremental" upgrade. It's the only phone that will have ICS for the foreseeable future. It performs well in benchmarks (see my thread in the non-branded forum). And it will be the only phone that gives a pure Android experience for at least a year.

    I guess you can wait for releases from Moto or HTC with "better" specs and their own launchers.
    11-03-2011 07:24 AM
  23. crzycrkr's Avatar
    I'm lost on how the Galaxy Nexus is only an "incremental" upgrade. It's the only phone that will have ICS for the foreseeable future. It performs well in benchmarks (see my thread in the non-branded forum). And it will be the only phone that gives a pure Android experience for at least a year.

    I guess you can wait for releases from Moto or HTC with "better" specs and their own launchers.
    Don't mind him. He's the one who's lost
    11-03-2011 07:31 AM
  24. s14tat's Avatar
    Yes, and my OG Droid "keeps up" with the Nexus S and will also keep up with the Galaxy Nexus. Shenanigans. Specs and benchmarks ARE what matter because there is hardly a day to day difference in anything else.

    Perhaps you should buy an original iPhone off Ebay if specs and benchmarks aren't what matter to you. You'll save a lot of money.
    Whoa Whoa Whoa, slow down there. You must be smoking some of that good stuff. The OG droid is so slow that even at 1 gig it has notable stutter between home screens, apps takes forever to open, the ram is so small that it can't run more than 2 programs at once, and graphic heavy games won't even run on it due to limited ram. Its so slow in fact that the crt off animation in the gingerbread roms is slow!!!
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    11-03-2011 07:48 AM
  25. CynicX's Avatar
    Software optimization and battery technology needs to come quite a way before better hardware will be useful to anyone.

    Here is my example of software optimization.

    iOS 5 Brings Major Browsing Speed Boosts to Safari

    And, well we all know how bad the battery can be. The 4460 in the GN is natively clocked at 1.5 but tuned back whether that's for battery or not Google decided the dev phone didn't even need more speed and i can't blame them. Emulators are the only thing that I've ever over locked for and actually noticed very slight benefits.

    Plus even if the super quadcore phone came out tomorrow it would be at the very least 6-8 months before there was an update to actually utilize all four cores. It would be like the current dual cores that aren't much faster then non dualcores and certainly not near double the speed in benchmarks that they should be.

    So while I'm sure I'd want it, not for a year or so until its useful. And I'm not waiting a year when there is great stuff coming out now.

    Megapixels are important yes, but ni where near as important as the optics it uses for the pic esp. when it comes to zooming. This is easily shown with none camera optics. Compare a 5 dollar set of binoculars to a 600 dollar set with the same zoom level. One will be blurry and near useless and you'll say to yourself "no wonder these were free in a box of cereal" the other will be focused and crystal clear.

    Just look at the 8mp bionic vs the 5mp iPhone 4. There is no comparison, not even close. The iPhone had superior optics and it showed.

    Don't fall for all the marketing hype. Buy what works. If it takes a beautiful picture and the processor can run every app ever made what is there to wait for?

    I'm as geeky as the next guy and having something just because its faster is fine but in reality the wait for it will be too long and there will always be something better coming out....
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    11-03-2011 08:04 AM
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