11-06-2011 05:28 AM
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  1. revickulous2001's Avatar
    There is a pretty simple way to look at this. If Samsung had opted to simply take the Galaxy S II as is and make a few adjustments to it, would the Galaxy Nexus be better? More specifically, if they gave it the 4.65 inch curved screen (kept the resolution and sAMOLED Plus status), removed the hardware buttons, and added an LED notification...Would that make the Galaxy Nexus better once all carrier bloat and skins were stripped off and ICS was installed?
    11-04-2011 09:53 AM
  2. PJnc284's Avatar
    Would that make the Galaxy Nexus better once all carrier bloat and skins were stripped off and ICS was installed?
    Sure. Cause it'd be the same hardware and Stock >>>> Touchwiz/Carrier-bloated crap. I'd still take the Nexus over the SII as is to not have to deal with Samsung or worry about developers finding a way to remove Touchwiz and the rest of the bloat.
    11-04-2011 09:56 AM
  3. Adrynalyne's Avatar
    And 6 months from then, Nexus will be #2 to something. Such is the cycle of life...

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    Same with the GS II.

    So...not seeing the point you were getting at. Are you thinking we should play the perpetual waiting game and just continuously wait for something better on the horizon?

    Also, Nexus devices so far have been spaced a year apart. That means AT least a year of getting all the updates months ahead of time for other devices.
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    11-04-2011 09:58 AM
  4. Stang68's Avatar
    The fact that they haven't touched the GNex should make their points null and void.
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    11-04-2011 10:14 AM
  5. titanoman's Avatar
    The fact that they haven't touched the GNex should make their points null and void.
    Thank-you.

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    11-04-2011 10:28 AM
  6. Stang68's Avatar
    Also, Nexus devices so far have been spaced a year apart. That means AT least a year of getting all the updates months ahead of time for other devices.
    That's why I'm so excited to finally get a Nexus. Sure, it's fun switching to a new phone every few months but at the same time I sort of envy the iPhone peeps who only upgrade once a year. Their phone always gets the updates and then when a new one comes out, they can get it.

    I am very excited to get the Nexus and then just look forward to new updates from Google until Holiday 2012 when (hopefully) Verizon releases the next Nexus.
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    11-04-2011 10:35 AM
  7. Adrynalyne's Avatar
    Thank-you.

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    He is talking about all the people and blogs saying the SII is better without trying the Gnex themselves
    11-04-2011 10:36 AM
  8. Adrynalyne's Avatar
    That's why I'm so excited to finally get a Nexus. Sure, it's fun switching to a new phone every few months but at the same time I sort of envy the iPhone peeps who only upgrade once a year. Their phone always gets the updates and then when a new one comes out, they can get it.

    I am very excited to get the Nexus and then just look forward to new updates from Google until Holiday 2012 when (hopefully) Verizon releases the next Nexus.
    Me too!

    It will be nice to work on a phone that I don't have to hack first, as well.
    11-04-2011 10:37 AM
  9. titanoman's Avatar
    Samsung Galaxy Nexus vs Samsung Galaxy S2 - News - Know Your Mobile

    [Compared] Samsung Galaxy S2 vs Galaxy Nexus; no surprises, S2 wins! | The DNetWorks

    Hopefully I inserted these links properly.

    Both of these articles say the S2 has better specs than the Galaxy Nexus, and is the better phone especially when the S2 gets upgraded to ICS. So is the Galaxy Nexus an upgrade to the S2 or more of the same just with a different design?

    What do you guys think?
    I can appreciate the articles except neither mentions the upgrades the T-mobile sports (1.5ghz, 4.5" ).And I know the naysayers will smack the processor saying this is acually a downgrade. I'll never know the diff unless I use both of them side by side...

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    11-04-2011 10:42 AM
  10. titanoman's Avatar
    He is talking about all the people and blogs saying the SII is better without trying the Gnex themselves
    Oh. Works both ways I guess.

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    11-04-2011 10:44 AM
  11. Adrynalyne's Avatar
    I can appreciate the articles except neither mentions the upgrades the T-mobile sports (1.5ghz, 4.5" ).And I know the naysayers will smack the processor saying this is acually a downgrade. I'll never know the diff unless I use both of them side by side...

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    I don't think anyone has ever said that Exynos was a downgrade. I know I didn't.

    This I can thank.


    Far cry from where you started:

    Specs don't count? What? Since when? I'm sick of people trying to fault the S2 when there is nothing to back these kind of statements. It's the better phone. Except it and get on!
    11-04-2011 10:45 AM
  12. titanoman's Avatar
    Me too!

    It will be nice to work on a phone that I don't have to hack first, as well.
    How do you know? What do you have?

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    11-04-2011 10:46 AM
  13. Adrynalyne's Avatar
    How do you know? What do you have?

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    Q: How do I know I won't have to hack on it?
    A: Its a Nexus. fastboot oem unlock = unlocked device.

    Q: What do you have?
    A: An HTC Thunderbolt which had to be hacked to hell and back to get the same thing the above command performs.

    Q: What about software?
    A: ICS aosp will already be completely setup for it. Download, compile, flash. No ril issues. No compatibility issues.
    11-04-2011 10:50 AM
  14. titanoman's Avatar
    How do I know what?

    Q: How do I know I won't have to hack on it?
    A: Its a Nexus. fastboot oem unlock = unlocked device.

    Q: What do you have?
    A: An HTC Thunderbolt which had to be hacked to hell and back to get the same thing the above command performs.

    Q: What about software?
    A: ICS aosp will already be completely setup for it. Download, compile, flash.
    Will there be any bugs?

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    11-04-2011 10:53 AM
  15. Adrynalyne's Avatar
    Will there be any bugs?

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    Bugs with what? AOSP gets what Google sends to Nexus devices (which manufacturers also build off of). So can there be bugs? Sure. More likely to see bug fixes though.
    11-04-2011 10:53 AM
  16. titanoman's Avatar
    Bugs with what? AOSP gets what Google sends to Nexus devices. So can there be bugs? Sure. More likely to see bug fixes though.
    So about the same time the bugs are worked out S2 will be getting it.

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    11-04-2011 11:00 AM
  17. Adrynalyne's Avatar
    So about the same time the bugs are worked out S2 will be getting it.

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    Not really. AOSP will always be ahead on bugfixes.

    The manufacturers choose a branch and do a code freeze, then work off that. Meanwhile, Google keeps pumping out the fixes and enhancements. Those, you will not get until another future update, if at all.
    11-04-2011 11:02 AM
  18. thejondude's Avatar
    Not really. AOSP will always be ahead on bugfixes.

    The manufacturers choose a branch and do a code freeze, then work off that. Meanwhile, Google keeps pumping out the fixes and enhancements. Those, you will not get until another future update, if at all.

    and you dont have to wait for manufacture to give it to carrier and then release right?
    11-04-2011 11:04 AM
  19. Adrynalyne's Avatar
    and you dont have to wait for manufacture to give it to carrier and then release right?
    Right.
    11-04-2011 11:05 AM
  20. borgey401's Avatar
    Will there be any bugs?

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    Are you just in this thread to troll every single person who posts in it? It seems that no matter what someone says you have a negative response to it even after stating you don't know much because you're new. Adrynalyne knows his stuff, he's a well know developer so there's no need to question when he says there will be no need to hack the Nexus. Plus that's the main attraction to the Nexus for the majority of us. We can OEM unlock the device and get AOSP updates straight from Google. No worrying about OEMs adding their awful skins and carriers having to give the okay to push the OTA. With all that being said, I don't even get how you can even post a thread like this. Specs mean absolutely nothing on paper for the most part and benchmarks are not everything. It's all about the experience of having a pure Google device. I am pretty sure ICS was optimized for the hardware on the Nexus so I would think it's safe to say once the GSII gets ICS the Nexus will outperform it. Of course that is speculation since nobody has used a GSII with ICS yet. Bottom line is there is no need to troll people and post threads in a forum section that you clearly have no interest in besides trying to bash it.
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    11-04-2011 11:06 AM
  21. VideoEngineerAJS's Avatar
    Bugs with what? AOSP gets what Google sends to Nexus devices (which manufacturers also build off of). So can there be bugs? Sure. More likely to see bug fixes though.
    This is what excites me. The Thunderbolt had some issues with the first GB rollout and while they weren't huge (no voicemail notifications) it was still a little annoying and it took another month to get the fix. If there is a bug in the software update that Google pushes out, you can be sure it won't take another month to get the fix on the Nexus.
    11-04-2011 11:07 AM
  22. Adrynalyne's Avatar
    This is what excites me. The Thunderbolt had some issues with the first GB rollout and while they weren't huge (no voicemail notifications) it was still a little annoying and it took another month to get the fix. If there is a bug in the software update that Google pushes out, you can be sure it won't take another month to get the fix on the Nexus.
    That and being able to work with code...real code, instead of smali will be nice.
    11-04-2011 11:09 AM
  23. titanoman's Avatar
    Are you just in this thread to troll every single person who posts in it? It seems that no matter what someone says you have a negative response to it even after stating you don't know much because you're new. Adrynalyne knows his stuff, he's a well know developer so there's no need to question when he says there will be no need to hack the Nexus. Plus that's the main attraction to the Nexus for the majority of us. We can OEM unlock the device and get AOSP updates straight from Google. No worrying about OEMs adding their awful skins and carriers having to give the okay to push the OTA. With all that being said, I don't even get how you can even post a thread like this. Specs mean absolutely nothing on paper for the most part and benchmarks are not everything. It's all about the experience of having a pure Google device. I am pretty sure ICS was optimized for the hardware on the Nexus so I would think it's safe to say once the GSII gets ICS the Nexus will outperform it. Of course that is speculation since nobody has used a GSII with ICS yet. Bottom line is there is no need to troll people and post threads in a forum section that you clearly have no interest in besides trying to bash it.
    Shut my mouth. You're right. I just know I like my phone, but beyond that...
    I'll step out now. Carry on.

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    11-04-2011 11:18 AM
  24. Eric Kane's Avatar
    If I were a betting man, I'd say that you were one of the ones who was so excited about the Galaxy S2 that you bought it immediately when it came out on the carrier you were on. You're now unable to bring the phone back and are upset about the overwhelming response to this Galaxy Nexus device. For a short period of time, you thought you were getting the phone of envy and now you're stuck with a great phone, but not one that everyone is clamoring about.

    Such is Android for the most part. Your best bet to fix it? The Nexus. You won't get another one for at least a year.
    11-04-2011 11:20 AM
  25. Adrynalyne's Avatar
    Shut my mouth. You're right. I just know I like my phone, but beyond that...
    I'll step out now. Carry on.

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    We all like our phones and justify our purchase decisions. Nothing wrong with that. You just gotta look at the whole picture. The Nexus appeals to a different demographic than the GS II.
    11-04-2011 11:20 AM
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