I was in a Verizon Wireless store today, asking a sales Rep about the Nexus. He confirmed he and all store Reps have been through ICS training, but nothing specific on the Nexus, although he did acknowledge the Nexus would be coming. I asked about December 8th as a release date for both the Nexus and Droid 4. Again, no confirm one way or the other. But, ICS training has been completed at the Lynwood, WA store, so BRING ON THE NEXUS! Oh, as to the Droid 4, he said it's possible it would come out the same day as the Nexus, but again, he had nothing official.