03-07-2012 07:37 AM
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  1. MattMJB0188's Avatar
    I signed up yesterday and was able to do this. First rep said no but the second one added and even said this is better because it will give me unlimited data. I also read on here that Verizon called Nexus users which made me think they can see everything. Anyway, is there anyone who recently signed up with Verizon who did this? I didn't remove the mobile hotspot feature yet. Was going to wait a day or two into my next billing cycle?

    Is it likely Verizon will remove this unlimited data plan from my account as I didn't sign up for it? Just wondering. I'm kind of being paranoid about it and keep checking My Verizon to make sure its still there.
    03-02-2012 04:58 PM
  2. JustinTiburon#AC's Avatar
    Verizon can do what they want but if they ever do just complain and you will get it back. I doubt they will take it from you if they gave it to you though

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
    03-02-2012 07:25 PM
  3. coastalfan's Avatar
    I did. I got unlimited data. I questioned them twice, but I got it.
    dancingwater likes this.
    03-02-2012 09:07 PM
  4. MattMJB0188's Avatar
    I did. I got unlimited data. I questioned them twice, but I got it.
    Just out of curiosity when did you remove the MHS feature? I am thinking of doing it a day or two into my next billing cycle.
    03-02-2012 09:09 PM
  5. zero neck's Avatar
    this is a great loop hole. i was grandfathered in with unlimited but this is an awesome option for heavy data users.

    enjoy it while it lasts before Verizon goes to either (throttle) or (discontinue unlimited service altogether). hate to say it but judging from what's been happening with the other carriers, it looks like this is inevitable.
    03-03-2012 01:38 AM
  6. byrds8's Avatar
    Its inevitable because of the lack of spectrum. The more users that go to smartphones and need data the less bandwidth all the carriers have. With their current network set up there is not enough space for everyone. If the entire country went to smartphones we would be way in the negative on spectrum until they come up with better ways/tech to handle everyone.
    03-03-2012 09:01 AM
  7. MattMJB0188's Avatar
    My normal usage is 2-3GB so I hardly doubt that's going to take all their bandwidth. I thought LTE was suppose to solve bandwidth issues?
    03-03-2012 09:06 AM
  8. Iceycold's Avatar
    My normal usage is 2-3GB so I hardly doubt that's going to take all their bandwidth. I thought LTE was suppose to solve bandwidth issues?
    I'm not exactly sure on this, but LTE is really fast which in turn using more bandwith :O. And look how many people in the US have LTE Verizon phones.
    03-03-2012 09:33 AM
  9. pauldroidr2d2's Avatar
    Its inevitable because of the lack of spectrum. The more users that go to smartphones and need data the less bandwidth all the carriers have. With their current network set up there is not enough space for everyone. If the entire country went to smartphones we would be way in the negative on spectrum until they come up with better ways/tech to handle everyone.
    That should be VZWs problem, not ours. They should not be marketing a product, or products if they are unable to support the demands.

    I personally believe it is a crock.

    It will be interesting to see how many people start filing small claims suits against these companies. Especially those that are throttling back unlimited customers.

    Sent from one of the following: Galaxy Nexus, Bionic or Xoom using Tapatalk.
    03-03-2012 10:07 AM
  10. VetteDude's Avatar
    I'm not exactly sure on this, but LTE is really fast which in turn using more bandwith :O. And look how many people in the US have LTE Verizon phones.
    Bandwidth is practically unlimited. Its spectrum that is in a crunch. And LTE is WAY more efficient at bandwidth use than CDMA 3G and even 1x 2G. If Verizon was TRULY in a spectrum crunch, they should give everyone stuck on a 2G phone a free upgrade to a 3G basic phone of smartphone and shut off the 2G network. Fact is, there is no spectrum crunch on Verizon or ATT. ATT has tons warehoused and Verizon is pretty efficient at using theirs. I mean Sprint isn't complaining and they have the WORST spectrum possible-and their best is used up by the friggin Nextel network. Wimax is on 2.5 GHZ lmao.

    Its inevitable because of the lack of spectrum. The more users that go to smartphones and need data the less bandwidth all the carriers have. With their current network set up there is not enough space for everyone. If the entire country went to smartphones we would be way in the negative on spectrum until they come up with better ways/tech to handle everyone.
    This is totally untrue since bandwidth is recycled at the tower level. The bands of spectrum give service to your phone at one tower, then when its switches towers it uses slightly different spectrum. Then the next tower after that is recycles spectrum and use the same spectrum the 1st tower I mentioned was using. Spectrum crunch is at the tower level. If a tower is overloaded, put more up in that area, or offload to Wifi (like ATT does in NYC)
    03-03-2012 11:33 AM
  11. beerhound's Avatar
    Bandwidth is practically unlimited. Its spectrum that is in a crunch. And LTE is WAY more efficient at bandwidth use than CDMA 3G and even 1x 2G. If Verizon was TRULY in a spectrum crunch, they should give everyone stuck on a 2G phone a free upgrade to a 3G basic phone of smartphone and shut off the 2G network. Fact is, there is no spectrum crunch on Verizon or ATT. ATT has tons warehoused and Verizon is pretty efficient at using theirs. I mean Sprint isn't complaining and they have the WORST spectrum possible-and their best is used up by the friggin Nextel network. Wimax is on 2.5 GHZ lmao.
    CNN disagrees with you:

    Spectrum Crunch: The cell phone industry hits its limits - Feb. 21, 2012

    FTA:

    Wireless spectrum -- the invisible infrastructure over which all wireless transmissions travel -- is a finite resource. When, exactly, we'll hit the wall is the subject of intense debate, but almost everyone in the industry agrees that a crunch is coming.

    The U.S. still has a slight spectrum surplus. But at the current growth rate, the surplus turns into a deficit as early as next year, according to the Federal Communications Commission's estimates.

    "Network traffic is increasing," says an official at the FCC's wireless bureau. "[Carriers] can manage it for the next couple years, but demand is inevitably going to exceed the available spectrum."
    03-03-2012 12:31 PM
  12. VetteDude's Avatar
    I read that a little bit ago, its mostly propaganda.
    03-03-2012 12:36 PM
  13. zero neck's Avatar
    I dont really know about the bandwidth question - but you have to figure, financially, the carriers really just want more money - throttle data = get people to pay for faster speeds | eliminate unlimited data = get people to pay for overages or more expensive data plans.

    that's the only reason i said it looks inevitable.
    03-03-2012 02:33 PM
  14. Droid800's Avatar
    That should be VZWs problem, not ours. They should not be marketing a product, or products if they are unable to support the demands.

    I personally believe it is a crock.

    It will be interesting to see how many people start filing small claims suits against these companies. Especially those that are throttling back unlimited customers.

    Sent from one of the following: Galaxy Nexus, Bionic or Xoom using Tapatalk.
    They aren't marketing unlimited. And you can't take them to small claims because your contract forbids it. (It also allows, in case you missed it, them to throttle unlimited users for network management purposes. They also announced that they would throttle, so its not like users didn't know )

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
    03-03-2012 07:30 PM
  15. Droid800's Avatar
    I read that a little bit ago, its mostly propaganda.
    So you don't believe the regulator charged with managing spectrum? That's totally irrational.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
    03-03-2012 07:31 PM
  16. dubge's Avatar
    if vzw ever starts throttling or taking away unlimited I will just go back to a regular phone, I love having a smart phone and do use it but I dont NEED it and could adjust and live without if I wanted.
    03-03-2012 07:33 PM
  17. MattMJB0188's Avatar
    I am sure they will throttle 4G LTE eventually but hopefully it will be the same as their 3G policy. I can live with throttling being on a congested tower versus AT&T's throttling the entire month.
    03-03-2012 09:06 PM
  18. fyrfytr24's Avatar
    So for those of us who have had the unlimited data plan for the last 2 years...when we upgrade phones are we going to lose that?
    03-04-2012 12:40 AM
  19. Droid800's Avatar
    if vzw ever starts throttling or taking away unlimited I will just go back to a regular phone, I love having a smart phone and do use it but I dont NEED it and could adjust and live without if I wanted.
    They already throttle 3G phones that are using too much data on congested towers. But, unlike AT&T, their throttling is on a sliding scale that moves up and down depending on how much data all users use monthly.
    03-04-2012 01:19 AM
  20. zero neck's Avatar
    And you can't take them to small claims because your contract forbids it.
    arbitration clauses don't always work. it really depends on what the contract says and the manner/ambiguities of the circumstances surrounding their terms.

    +1 for law school.
    03-04-2012 02:36 AM
  21. byrds8's Avatar
    Bandwidth is practically unlimited. Its spectrum that is in a crunch. And LTE is WAY more efficient at bandwidth use than CDMA 3G and even 1x 2G. If Verizon was TRULY in a spectrum crunch, they should give everyone stuck on a 2G phone a free upgrade to a 3G basic phone of smartphone and shut off the 2G network. Fact is, there is no spectrum crunch on Verizon or ATT. ATT has tons warehoused and Verizon is pretty efficient at using theirs. I mean Sprint isn't complaining and they have the WORST spectrum possible-and their best is used up by the friggin Nextel network. Wimax is on 2.5 GHZ lmao.



    This is totally untrue since bandwidth is recycled at the tower level. The bands of spectrum give service to your phone at one tower, then when its switches towers it uses slightly different spectrum. Then the next tower after that is recycles spectrum and use the same spectrum the 1st tower I mentioned was using. Spectrum crunch is at the tower level. If a tower is overloaded, put more up in that area, or offload to Wifi (like ATT does in NYC)


    Wow seriously? lol I understand how cell towers work. But your assumption that just because things are switched between towers means no lack of bandwidth/spectrum is completely wrong. Bandwidth/Spectrum is by no means infinite. Also let us understand that bandwidth/spectrum is pretty much the same thing. Spectrum is the freqs they can use say from 690-710MHZ as well as the same for bandwidth. Between 690-710MHZ their bandwidth would be 20MHZ. So no matter what nor where they have that much to play with. In any given area, the populous of the area is not ALL on the network at any given time. If we all were, IE a disaster happens, we would get the "no circuits available" when we tried to use our cells. It just cant handle the load and all calls/network access cant swap out like normal. Also you cant just "put up more towers" If you have too many too close together it will cause interference between them.
    03-04-2012 07:27 AM
  22. MattMJB0188's Avatar
    This thread is kind of going in the wrong direction. I really wasn't asking about spectrum or bandwidth. I just wanted to know anyone's experience on getting unlimited data recently with their Nexus. Maybe we can get back on topic?
    03-04-2012 10:21 AM
  23. K2theIzzo's Avatar
    Page 3 and no one has answered the OP question.
    03-04-2012 10:56 PM
  24. MattMJB0188's Avatar
    Page 3 and no one has answered the OP question.
    Verizon knows about the loophole and apparently has an update going out to STOP it. Apparently Verizon reps comment on the howard forums.
    03-04-2012 11:19 PM
  25. yosteve's Avatar
    Good ole Verizon and their wait times, they can't even close a loophole with any promptness.
    03-05-2012 01:58 AM
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