If this is a Nexus, where is 4.0.4?

[blue duck butter]

I'm new to Android, coming from webOS. The main reason I purchased the Galaxy Nexus is to have quick updates of vanilla Android. I was especially looking forward to this because the man who created webOS is the lead designer behind Android now. If this is a Nexus device, why am I still on 4.0.2? If google is releasing these updates and 4.0.4 is already out, why hasn't it been pushed to the Verizon GN yet? Why was 4.0.3 never pushed?

 

[dmmarck]

Why is the sky blue?

Nobody knows what's going on, other than speculation based on highly incomplete information with dubious sourcing. Anyone claiming otherwise is living in fantasy land IMHO.

If you want quick updates (which were never promised by Google or Verizon, just fans of Google/Verizon), I would suggest taking the situation into your own hands.

 

[blue duck butter]

The whole point in getting the GN was so that I wouldn't have to take it into my own hands. Isn't it an unwritten rule that Nexus devices are supposed to receive updates directly from Google when they're ready? If I knew I was going to have to root anyway, I wouldn't have picked up a flimsy, under powered Samsung device, I would have gone with [any] HTC device, instead.

 

[dmmarck]

The whole point was so that I wouldn't have to take it into my own hands. Isn't it an unwritten rule that Nexus devices are supposed to receive updates directly from Google when they're ready? I wouldn't have picked up a crappy, under powered Samsung device if I knew I was going to have to root anyway. I would have gone with [any] HTC device, instead.

So are you trolling just to troll at this point, or do you actually want to have a serious conversation about it? Kind of confused by your baiting TBH.

Unwritten rules are unwritten rules. They neither count nor have any authority whatsoever, particularly when it comes to serious issues like phones, updates, Google, the thickness of glass, and why people rely on the internet for anything other than superficial news, research, and shoddy handy-cam porn.

Plus, one could just as easily say that an unwritten rule with any Nexus or halo Android device is to root and flash it immediately to get the most use out of it.

But hey, everyone's got their own rulebook.

 

[axne1]

Please please!!!! these threads need to stop! Please for the love of god stop. You should be thrown in jail for the rest of your life if you do not easily root your phone and make it work better for you! Stop these threads please!

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[axne1]

The whole point in getting the GN was so that I wouldn't have to take it into my own hands. Isn't it an unwritten rule that Nexus devices are supposed to receive updates directly from Google when they're ready? If I knew I was going to have to root anyway, I wouldn't have picked up a flimsy, under powered Samsung device, I would have gone with [any] HTC device, instead.

That is the whole point of this being a developers device. If you didn't want to root htc is a great company or motorola. geez this device is the most easiest to root of all of them. Where you root you will see great significant changes for good. But I know I can't convince you guys... :banghead: complainers will always complain

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[dmmarck]

Please please!!!! these threads need to stop! Please for the love of god stop. You should be thrown in jail for the rest of your life if you do not easily root your phone and make it work better for you! Stop these threads please!

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They come in spurts, sort of like menstruation.

Regardless, they are needless, (usually) ill-informed, and mostly used as a baiting mechanism to prove a point on behalf of some other phone, brand, etc.

I thought this was going to be somewhat different, but obviously I had a momentary lapse of reason.

 

[blue duck butter]

Sorry, wasn't trying to troll. I actually updated my post to remove the "crappy" part. I am genuinely asking the question. I am used to flashing/homebrew on webOS and have no problem with it, except that on Android it voids the warranty, whereas with webOS, it did not. I made the jump to Android based on Matias Duarte being hired at Google to work on Android and because I "heard" that Nexus devices were to receive updates quickly. I would much preferred the HTC Rezound over this device if I had known I wouldn't be receiving updates. The Rezound seems better in nearly every category. I chose the GN so that I wouldn't have to root to have the latest builds.

 

[blue duck butter]

Also, I haven't owned any smartphones other than a slew of webOS devices, including the Pre3, though my girlfriend got the Rezound for $.01 from amazon during the sale, while I waited for the VGN so that I could pay $250 to not get the updates. It's the only reason I waited for the VGN, was so I could receive timely updates in the vision of Duarte, and it's not happening.

 

[dmmarck]

Sorry, wasn't trying to troll. I actually updated my post to remove the "crappy" part. I am genuinely asking the question. I am used to flashing/homebrew on webOS and have no problem with it, except that on Android it voids the warranty, whereas with webOS, it did not. I made the jump to Android based on Matias Duarte being hired at Google to work on Android and because I "heard" that Nexus devices were to receive updates quickly. I would much preferred the HTC Rezound over this device if I had known I wouldn't be receiving updates. The Rezound seems better in nearly every category. I chose the GN so that I wouldn't have to root to have the latest builds.

The Rezound is a nice phone. Its physical aesthetic is tired and boring IMO, but it's a nice device with your typical outstanding specs regardless of that deformity. But like anything, this stuff is so brutally subjective (to a certain degree) that it's hard to say what's better, what's bad, etc.

Google has never said the Galaxy Nexus will receive quick updates. Verizon has never said it either. There was a brouhaha earlier concerning the CDMA hardware and possible difficulties, which is an easy but probably insufficient reason to explain the delay.

Also, with regards to the warranty, the legal parlance on the phone's bootloader uses the word "may," which of course means it is voidable, not void. This might be a semantic point to others, but in reality it means that Verizon must actually elect to void your warranty--which they very well might do. If it said it WILL void your phone, that means, theoretically, the warranty term/contract does not and never has existed as a legal agreement between you and the servicer.

Plus, you can unroot and relock it in like 3 minutes. Trust me, I've unwillingly became an expert at that. :-\

Also, Duarte has nothing to do with updating. He's design, not infrastructure or anything else like that--unless they've put him out of his wheelhouse, which would be mindlessly stupid IMHO.

 

[blue duck butter]

Plus, you can unroot and relock it in like 3 minutes. Trust me, I've unwillingly became an expert at that. :-\

Also, Duarte has nothing to do with updating. He's design, not infrastructure or anything else like that--unless they've put him out of his wheelhouse, which would be mindlessly stupid IMHO.

Yeah, I became an expert at dismantling webOS hardware/software. I will likely be rooting my GN.

I know Duarte has nothing to do with pushing updates, I just meant that I could more easily make the transition to Android, knowing that ICS is his brainchild. I looked forward to receiving the "vanilla" builds that would be untouched versions of his vision, instead of having Sense or Blur or other skinned versions. I'm a huge fan of his work and it was the main selling point for me.

Anyway, thanks for responding.

 

[dmmarck]

Yeah, I became an expert at dismantling webOS hardware/software. I will likely be rooting my GN.

I know Duarte has nothing to do with pushing updates, I just meant that I could more easily make the transition to Android, knowing that ICS is his brainchild. I looked forward to receiving the "vanilla" builds that would be untouched versions of his vision, instead of having Sense or Blur or other skinned versions. I'm a huge fan of his work and it was the main selling point for me.

Anyway, thanks for responding.

Well having seen and used a variety of Android OS's, this is easily the prettiest and most user-friendly IMHO.

And no problem, it's happy hour . If you want to root, check out our forum and the Chatter thread. We'd be more than willing to help you out and turn your GN from somewhat faulty rock star to full blown pants-crapping perfection.

 

[blue duck butter]

Well having seen and used a variety of Android OS's, this is easily the prettiest and most user-friendly IMHO.

And no problem, it's happy hour . If you want to root, check out our forum and the Chatter thread. We'd be more than willing to help you out and turn your GN from somewhat faulty rock star to full blown pants-crapping perfection.

I would like that. I've actually been having trouble getting my comp to recognize the device as anything other than a multimedia device. I tried loading an .apk with the SWM, but it doesn't see the device plugged in. I have the USB drivers and the SDK installed. I'll be troubleshooting is some more, once i receive a replacement (in the 2 hours I didn't have my case on, I dropped it and the screen cracked). It will be the perfect opportunity to hack away, once I receive a fresh device.

 

[blue duck butter]

Actually, maybe I should "practice" rooting on my cracked screen device now and then once I am comfortable with it, send in for the replacement...

 

[dmmarck]

I would like that. I've actually been having trouble getting my comp to recognize the device as anything other than a multimedia device. I tried loading an .apk with the SWM, but it doesn't see the device plugged in. I have the USB drivers and the SDK installed. I'll be troubleshooting is some more, once i receive a replacement (in the 2 hours I didn't have my case on, I dropped it and the screen cracked). It will be the perfect opportunity to hack away, once I receive a fresh device.

While this is off topic, what computer do you have? Mac? Windows? Mac's a pain b/c you have to download Android File Transfer.

With Windows, make sure debugging is not checked in Developer options. That can sometimes hide some things.

 

[pauldroidr2d2]

The whole point in getting the GN was so that I wouldn't have to take it into my own hands. Isn't it an unwritten rule that Nexus devices are supposed to receive updates directly from Google when they're ready? If I knew I was going to have to root anyway, I wouldn't have picked up a flimsy, under powered Samsung device, I would have gone with [any] HTC device, instead.

Is that the reason you purchased the Samsung Galaxy Nexus? That is not the reason I purchased the Samsung Galaxy Nexus.

 

[blue duck butter]

While this is off topic, what computer do you have? Mac? Windows? Mac's a pain b/c you have to download Android File Transfer.

With Windows, make sure debugging is not checked in Developer options. That can sometimes hide some things.

Windows 7 Premium 64bit. I actually DO have USB debugging checked in Developer Options on the phone. I thought I read somewhere that I was supposed to have it checked. Will try again without it.

 

[ShinyTop]

Actually I cracked a screen and bought a second Gnex. Then had the first one fixed. I have rooted one and kept one stock. Was not difficult to unlock and root.

THAT HAS NO BEARING ON FAULTS WITH THE PHONE.

Those faults should be fixed more timely than the 3 and one half months since I bought my first on release day. I still believe it is the best phone I have owned but any product I buy should be right or fixed promptly. As long as users accept faultly devices and allow Samsung/Google/Verizon to foist incomplete/faulty hardware/software it will continue. And, of course, they can point to their legions of fanboys telling all it is okay unless you can prove they say they would fix by such and such a date. Newsflash, the day the sold it they entered into a deal that implied it was good as delivered or would be fixed.

 

[PhoenixMike]

That is the whole point of this being a developers device. If you didn't want to root htc is a great company or motorola. geez this device is the most easiest to root of all of them. Where you root you will see great significant changes for good. But I know I can't convince you guys... :banghead: complainers will always complain

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I'll just come out and say it: I can't root my Nexus. Followed the instructions for the 1 click root and kept running into issues with step 2 because it didn't detect the device.
I'm probably the only one who can't get it Lol....

 

[blue duck butter]

Actually I cracked a screen and bought a second Gnex. Then had the first one fixed. I have rooted one and kept one stock. Was not difficult to unlock and root.

THAT HAS NO BEARING ON FAULTS WITH THE PHONE.

Those faults should be fixed more timely than the 3 and one half months since I bought my first on release day. I still believe it is the best phone I have owned but any product I buy should be right or fixed promptly. As long as users accept faultly devices and allow Samsung/Google/Verizon to foist incomplete/faulty hardware/software it will continue. And, of course, they can point to their legions of fanboys telling all it is okay unless you can prove they say they would fix by such and such a date. Newsflash, the day the sold it they entered into a deal that implied it was good as delivered or would be fixed.

It HAS been quite a while to not have already fixed things like the slow screen rotation, poor radio package and all the random crashes of apps and reboots. I just really thought it would be much quicker when it came to fixing bugs (bugs that are understandable, as this is a whole new OS on a new device).