07-06-2012 11:28 PM
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  1. Misterb's Avatar
    Anyone else feel the Nexus name should only be used for the Nexus line of phones? Google has this new tablet they're calling the Nexus. Google also has a new TV set top box called the Nexus. What's next, and where the hell does it end? This just creates confusion, and waters down the importance of the name as it has always represented a very sophisticated and powerful handset.

    Knock it off, google.
    07-04-2012 04:19 PM
  2. ultravisitor's Avatar
    What are you talking about? I like the idea of a whole line of Nexus devices that run stock Android.
    07-04-2012 04:21 PM
  3. dmmarck's Avatar
    Anyone else feel the Nexus name should only be used for the Nexus line of phones? Google has this new tablet they're calling the Nexus. Google also has a new TV set top box called the Nexus. What's next, and where the hell does it end? This just creates confusion, and waters down the importance of the name as it has always represented a very sophisticated and powerful handset.

    Knock it off, google.
    I actually disagree, respectfully of course. You can see what they're doing--they're establishing the Nexus line as their line of "hardware" and optimized software. That ensures that each product reaches a certain Nexus standard. So long as the products do that, I'm 100% ok with it and even welcome it.
    07-04-2012 04:22 PM
  4. Misterb's Avatar
    I actually disagree, respectfully of course. You can see what they're doing--they're establishing the Nexus line as their line of "hardware" and optimized software. That ensures that each product reaches a certain Nexus standard. So long as the products do that, I'm 100% ok with it and even welcome it.
    That makes sense to a certain degree, but I still think this creates confusion. So, a buddy comes over to watch TV, and asks what that odd looking ball connected to your TV is. You tell him it's a Nexus. He replies "I thought your phone was a Nexus?". "It is", you reply. Puzzled look on his face follows. The confusion would be even greater for someone shopping on their own for a product, and not understanding what on earth it all means.

    I really don't think your average consumer understands what it means to have a google OS without a skin, and that google is controlling both hardware and software. And, without the average consumer buying these products, there just likely won't be enough sales. Those of us on these forums make up the minority.
    07-04-2012 04:39 PM
  5. Irvgotti's Avatar
    Noon just brand recognition.. like a macbook. Nike. Away to create loyalty. If you like the nexus phone. U will most likely buy the product because of the name. Why a lot of iPhone users have a mac
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    07-04-2012 05:09 PM
  6. jroc's Avatar
    Anyone else feel the Nexus name should only be used for the Nexus line of phones? Google has this new tablet they're calling the Nexus. Google also has a new TV set top box called the Nexus. What's next, and where the hell does it end? This just creates confusion, and waters down the importance of the name as it has always represented a very sophisticated and powerful handset.

    Knock it off, google.
    I'm sorry...but I never looked at Nexus phones like that. I have been using Android since Mar 2010 with the Droid 1....I eventually learned about the Nexus 1 a few moths later. Starting with the Nexus 1....they were and are like any other smartphone. Newer phones get newer specs and features all the time. Its not like any Nexus phone leapfrogged so much other phones released around the same time in specs. They progressed like every other smartphone.

    I always looked at them as phones that are easier to do Android development on...and get faster updates than most if not all other Android phones. Thats it.

    I also like the idea of a line of different Nexus products. How cool would it be to one day say your home is ran by Nexus? Nexus doesnt even mean best when looking in the dictionary...Actually....what they are doing now is what Nexus means....one could argue that this was probably their plan all along.

    I look at what some luxury car manufacture did recently with making motorcycles and I think station wagons as watering down their name. Then wasnt there a time when ppl complained about the Galaxy S 1 line all having different names in the US? Galaxy S 2 line also. If all Nexus phones were low end, mid range phones when they released...only sold on the smaller carriers....I could agree with what you're saying. IMO....Android on low end phones, tablets is watering down the name Android as a whole.

    As for stock Android, pure Google experience phone...whats makes it so much better than a phone with a custom UI? Not talking about custom ROMs or faster updates, just user experience, functions, features? Stock Android and a phone with a custom both have pros n cons the way I see it.
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    07-04-2012 05:10 PM
  7. dmmarck's Avatar
    That makes sense to a certain degree, but I still think this creates confusion. So, a buddy comes over to watch TV, and asks what that odd looking ball connected to your TV is. You tell him it's a Nexus. He replies "I thought your phone was a Nexus?". "It is", you reply. Puzzled look on his face follows. The confusion would be even greater for someone shopping on their own for a product, and not understanding what on earth it all means.

    I really don't think your average consumer understands what it means to have a google OS without a skin, and that google is controlling both hardware and software. And, without the average consumer buying these products, there just likely won't be enough sales. Those of us on these forums make up the minority.
    For your first point, I understand it--but then why not say "it's a media player called a Nexus Q?" or "it's Nexus 7 tablet"? That way, discussion will open up about what it is.

    That relates to your second point. The average consumer may not know what the Nexus program means because there are only what, 3 Nexii phones? Now there are 5 Nexii devices, and with that the consumer will have more opportunities to experience the Nexus program, thus leading to more knowledgeable folks with regards to "stock Android" and the like. Right now, I think that reaching into other markets can only bolster the significance behind a Nexus designation.
    07-04-2012 05:14 PM
  8. Misterb's Avatar
    Noon just brand recognition.. like a macbook. Nike. Away to create loyalty. If you like the nexus phone. U will most likely buy the product because of the name. Why a lot of iPhone users have a mac
    Right, but using your apple example, they have a different name for their products. The Apple TV isn't called an iPhone. The iPad isn't called an iPhone. Google, however, calls their version of the iPhone, iPad, and Apple TV all the same Nexus name. Mind you, Apple is silly with names sometimes too. Calling the third generation iPad just "iPad" is stupid.
    07-04-2012 05:40 PM
  9. Patrick Schroedl's Avatar
    Right, but using your apple example, they have a different name for their products. The Apple TV isn't called an iPhone. The iPad isn't called an iPhone. Google, however, calls their version of the iPhone, iPad, and Apple TV all the same Nexus name. Mind you, Apple is silly with names sometimes too. Calling the third generation iPad just "iPad" is stupid.
    Emphasis added.

    Well, here's how I see the names right now:


    • Galaxy Nexus
    • Nexus Q
    • Nexus 7



    • iPod
    • iPhone
    • iPad


    I hardly see those Nexus names as being "all the same Nexus name." Sure, the Nexus Q and Nexus 7 are only differentiated by one letter... but then we compare the iPad and iPod. Apple chose "Pad" and "Pod," names which directly reference the product that they are. Google chose more abstract names, "Q" (referencing the shape of the device) and "7" (a commonly-accepted moniker for seven-inch tablet devices). Personally, I don't at all resent that. They've chosen good names for good products, tied together by a strong branding that isn't quite as strict as the iProduct denotation.
    07-04-2012 05:49 PM
  10. Irvgotti's Avatar
    Right, but using your apple example, they have a different name for their products. The Apple TV isn't called an iPhone. The iPad isn't called an iPhone. Google, however, calls their version of the iPhone, iPad, and Apple TV all the same Nexus name. Mind you, Apple is silly with names sometimes too. Calling the third generation iPad just "iPad" is stupid.

    True. But either way. Its a way to create brand loyalty. And once people buy into it.. it will make them feel more comfortable about their decision. Just the same reason why most people bought the nexus tablet.. its a nexus.. everyone has there signature line. Asus transformer. HTC one . Samsung galaxy etc.
    I 100% agree the nexus q needs a different name and would be more confusing with the nexus s
    07-04-2012 08:01 PM
  11. yodatom10's Avatar
    Its no diffrent then a i device its a brand name and a family
    07-04-2012 08:06 PM
  12. ultravisitor's Avatar
    That makes sense to a certain degree, but I still think this creates confusion. So, a buddy comes over to watch TV, and asks what that odd looking ball connected to your TV is. You tell him it's a Nexus. He replies "I thought your phone was a Nexus?". "It is", you reply. Puzzled look on his face follows. The confusion would be even greater for someone shopping on their own for a product, and not understanding what on earth it all means.
    Ever paid attention to Levis? There are LOTS of different types, all simply differentiated by a number. Levis 501 or Levis 505 or whatever. There are even different types of Levis 501s. Miraculously, it seems, people have been able to understand there are different types and the brand has survived.

    If people can differentiate between different kinds of Macs or iDevices or Nikes or Levis or whatever, then they can differentiate between the different Nexus devices.

    I just don't think people are as stupid as you're making them out to be.
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    07-04-2012 09:22 PM
  13. fguills's Avatar
    Its calling branding.
    07-04-2012 09:30 PM
  14. bplewis24's Avatar
    Anyone else feel the Nexus name should only be used for the Nexus line of phones? Google has this new tablet they're calling the Nexus. Google also has a new TV set top box called the Nexus. What's next, and where the hell does it end? This just creates confusion, and waters down the importance of the name as it has always represented a very sophisticated and powerful handset.

    Knock it off, google.
    I agree. Just look at Samsung. They confuse the hell out of people and water things down. They started out with one Galaxy line of phones. Then a couple generations later they have a Galaxy player, some phones, and multiple tablets. And just look at how bad it has hurt their sales!

    Oh, wait...
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    07-04-2012 09:52 PM
  15. elvisgp's Avatar
    The nexus branding meaning has changed since the launch of the nexus one. It is no longer a name that means a developer device, but more of a title that is google's own device, and is based around the play store. plus, if you think the nexus branding is bad, just look at how many galaxy devices there are.
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    07-04-2012 09:55 PM
  16. bplewis24's Avatar
    Its calling branding.
    Egg-zachly!

    I was talking about this with my cousin a few months ago. He is also my barber and has an Android phone and tablet. When it was rumored that Google was going to have "multiple" OEM's manufacturing their own "Nexus" phones this year, I mentioned that maybe what they are going for is a "brand" that is recognizable by the masses. Samsung has a smash hit on their hands by branding their "Galaxy" line of phones as their top-of-the-line phone. This is very important to the average, uninformed consumer.

    Apple has one product of each type. Each year they release one new product of each type, only differing by relatively simple things like storage size and color. They don't really have multiple models and brand lines. So it's easy for the consumer to know which model they want.

    Android has 1,000 handsets. Samsung makes a bunch, HTC makes a bunch. How is a consumer to know whether the Nexus S, Wildfire, One X, Inspire, RAZR or whateverthefunk are good phones? Which one is "best?" Which one should I buy? For Samsung, it's easy. The Galaxy line. That's the "best." Each year some consumers eagerly anticipate the announcement of the new Galaxy, even though Samsung still makes other phones.

    HTC learned the hard way last year. Released a bunch of phones that were all pretty solid/good (save for a couple) as well as some low-range phones. What happens? The consumer does get confused to a certain extent. They saw what Samsung has done with "Galaxy" and decided to brand their phones for this year and cut back on models. Now what do they have? The "One _" line. It helps.

    That is what Google is doing with the Nexus. It's becoming an alternative brand for the pure Google experience. It's the right way to go. More Nexus devices is also more win for us. Two years ago, I thought I'd never have the chance to get another pure Google device again because of my carrier (Verizon). Now, I truly feel like I have options.
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    07-04-2012 09:58 PM
  17. ultravisitor's Avatar
    I agree. Just look at Samsung. They confuse the hell out of people and water things down. They started out with one Galaxy line of phones. Then a couple generations later they have a Galaxy player, some phones, and multiple tablets. And just look at how bad it has hurt their sales!

    Oh, wait...
    And look at companies like Sony and Panasonic that have multiples types of audio and visual equipment -- HOW WILL PEOPLE KEEP FROM BEING CONFUSED?

    WHO WILL THINK OF THE PEOPLE? WHY IS GOOGLE SO EVIL AS TO CONFUSE US ALL?
    07-04-2012 10:12 PM
  18. _JKK_'s Avatar
    Nexus is Google's hardware line for Android-powered devices that they either make themselves, or that they source out to other companies and then rebrand. I don't think they use it to much - does Apple use the word "Mac" to much?
    07-04-2012 10:15 PM
  19. Firespyer's Avatar
    iWhat?
    07-04-2012 10:15 PM
  20. ultravisitor's Avatar
    omgomgomg

    I just realized that I have a Samsung phone and a Samsung TV -- AND NOW I CAN'T TELL WHICH IS WHICH!
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    07-04-2012 10:19 PM
  21. 2defmouze's Avatar
    And look at companies like Sony and Panasonic that have multiples types of audio and visual equipment -- HOW WILL PEOPLE KEEP FROM BEING CONFUSED?

    WHO WILL THINK OF THE PEOPLE? WHY IS GOOGLE SO EVIL AS TO CONFUSE US ALL?
    omgomgomg

    I just realized that I have a Samsung phone and a Samsung TV -- AND NOW I CAN'T TELL WHICH IS WHICH!
    Done yet?

    You made your point, no need to pick on anyone who just wanted to have a conversation.
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    07-04-2012 10:20 PM
  22. Hand_O_Death's Avatar
    This is the most recognizable brand in the world. People see it in languages that they can not even read and know what it is and have a clear picture in their heads of the products.

    Google is trying the same thing with "Nexus" meaning Google. It is simple brand recognition (or at least that is what Google wants it to be.)
    jroc likes this.
    07-04-2012 10:28 PM
  23. gabbott's Avatar
    Nexus is just the branding, I don't think it's confusing because there isn't a device (other than the original Nexus phone) that is simply called a Nexus.... Nexus S, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 7, Nexus Q.... It makes sense to use it for brand recognition.
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    07-04-2012 11:30 PM
  24. Mac58's Avatar
    MisteB I believe you are confusing yourself by just calling each device Nexus. They are all Nexus devices, however, their name is not just Nexus. It is Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 7, and Nexus Q. I think you are giving the consumer a bit less credit than they deserve. I dont think the average consumer would just say " Hey what is that powering your tv?" "Oh thats a nexus". I think they would say "Oh thats a Nexus Q"

    Now if google named all of their devices Just Nexus...then I could understand your argument, but the marketing team around the Nexus brand or even any big time company knows what they are doing...thats why they gete paid the big bucks
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    07-05-2012 12:12 AM
  25. mloui921's Avatar
    Nexus is the brand of Google devices. There is a differentiator at the end of Nexus (or before). Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 7, Nexus Q. Kinda like how "i" is part of Apples branding (although easier to recognize what product is what)
    .. iPhone, iPad, iPod. Or kinda like how there are so many different Macs and Macbooks. MacBook pro, MacBook air, MacBook.
    Just use the differentiator at the end of Nexus. And you've solved your problem.
    Samsung Galaxy too... although Samsung is worst cause they have 50 bajillion phones on the market. But Galaxy is the brand, and a pretty damn trusted brand now in phones.
    jroc likes this.
    07-05-2012 12:24 AM
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