11-25-2012 09:17 AM
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  1. Johnny Postman's Avatar
    I'll need to pay retail to keep unlimited data but I was wondering if by waiting a month or two would you be able to find a Note 2 at less than $699? Do prices drop on phones after a while?
    11-19-2012 04:26 PM
  2. lembowski's Avatar
    I'll need to pay retail to keep unlimited data but I was wondering if by waiting a month or two would you be able to find a Note 2 at less than $699? Do prices drop on phones after a while?
    Not through Verizon. Through Ebay and Craigslist yes.
    11-19-2012 07:46 PM
  3. killroy420's Avatar
    I just say say I find it funny how people justify switching to tiered because they currently average far less than the cap. It will be interesting in a year or two when all these people learn how to use that data and are suddenly in a situation where they need to use a lot of it. I personally average about 6 gigs a month, but that shot up to 16gigs in September when I spent a couple weeks in the hospital with my daughter and I needed to use my service (the WiFi there was horrendously slow, insecure, and blocked many of the sites I needed to go to). I hope the outrage at these caps reaches deafening proportions and gets the FCC to do something about this whole broken system we have to deal with.

    I tried to think of something witty, but this is all I could come up with.
    11-20-2012 05:34 PM
  4. pool_shark's Avatar
    I just say say I find it funny how people justify switching to tiered because they currently average far less than the cap. It will be interesting in a year or two when all these people learn how to use that data and are suddenly in a situation where they need to use a lot of it. I personally average about 6 gigs a month, but that shot up to 16gigs in September when I spent a couple weeks in the hospital with my daughter and I needed to use my service (the WiFi there was horrendously slow, insecure, and blocked many of the sites I needed to go to). I hope the outrage at these caps reaches deafening proportions and gets the FCC to do something about this whole broken system we have to deal with.

    I tried to think of something witty, but this is all I could come up with.
    Please explain "when they learn how to use that data".
    I've been using smartphones since the Treo 700P. I have never gone over 3GB
    in one month.
    I don't tether, I don't stream music, I don't usually watch Netflix on my phone.

    I have movies and music on my phone. I use my phone more than my laptop, but I'm usually on wifi.
    11-20-2012 05:59 PM
  5. killroy420's Avatar
    Please explain "when they learn how to use that data".
    I've been using smartphones since the Treo 700P. I have never gone over 3GB
    in one month.
    I don't tether, I don't stream music, I don't usually watch Netflix on my phone.

    I have movies and music on my phone. I use my phone more than my laptop, but I'm usually on wifi.
    I'm referring to the point when we all start utilizing applications as they are intended, and following the trend of services based "in the cloud." When data speeds are fast enough (and the coverage large enough), what is the point in on board storage when you can have unlimited cloud storage for all of your data, regardless of type/source. Some storage space makes sense for caching purposes and for going offline, but generally we only need a small fraction of everything we have at any given point. I have 400 gigs worth of music, but I only need maybe 3 gigs worth to keep me happy for a week.

    I understand your argument, but as our phones become more capable of replacing our full blown laptops and desktops with high speed internet connections all of our data needs are going to increase. I liken this trend to inflation on currency, and a cap is like saying that the price of data is not increasing even though the demand is. I am sorry, but in a world of "limited" supply, the price of data is going to go up and that makes unlimited plans more valuable than ever. Just because we can see a saving gain in the short term (based on PAST data), doesn't mean that savings will be there when inflation goes up, and by then it will be too late to do anything.

    I tried to think of something witty, but this is all I could come up with.
    11-20-2012 06:37 PM
  6. pool_shark's Avatar
    I'm referring to the point when we all start utilizing applications as they are intended, and following the trend of services based "in the cloud." When data speeds are fast enough (and the coverage large enough), what is the point in on board storage when you can have unlimited cloud storage for all of your data, regardless of type/source. Some storage space makes sense for caching purposes and for going offline, but generally we only need a small fraction of everything we have at any given point. I have 400 gigs worth of music, but I only need maybe 3 gigs worth to keep me happy for a week.

    I understand your argument, but as our phones become more capable of replacing our full blown laptops and desktops with high speed internet connections all of our data needs are going to increase. I liken this trend to inflation on currency, and a cap is like saying that the price of data is not increasing even though the demand is. I am sorry, but in a world of "limited" supply, the price of data is going to go up and that makes unlimited plans more valuable than ever. Just because we can see a saving gain in the short term (based on PAST data), doesn't mean that savings will be there when inflation goes up, and by then it will be too late to do anything.

    I tried to think of something witty, but this is all I could come up with.
    The problem with cloud based storage is accessibility. My signal isn't very strong in my office or at my mom's house. If everything I want to access is in the cloud I won't be able to get to it at all times.
    I don't like music enough to accumulate 400GB, hell, I don't like enough of it to accumulate 40GB.

    I put my favorite fights, movies, and south park episodes on my phone and will put the ones I removed onto my sdcard when I switch phones.

    I think it's safe to assume that the tiered data plans are fine for some as far as the issue you have with it.

    My issue with it is that I think once Verizon convinces everyone to switch or forces them to switch with the high cost of paying retail for phones, that they will raise the pricing of the shared data.
    11-20-2012 06:53 PM
  7. killroy420's Avatar
    My issue with it is that I think once Verizon convinces everyone to switch or forces them to switch with the high cost of paying retail for phones, that they will raise the pricing of the shared data.
    ...and that is the day I will jump ship to another carrier with zero reservations.

    I tried to think of something witty, but this is all I could come up with.
    11-20-2012 07:02 PM
  8. drum747's Avatar
    I'm sorry to say I believe all unlimited will eventually go away on Verizon. It could be a matter of a 6 month notice and boom! Gone.
    I have unlimited and have never used more than 8 gb in a month. My wife and I are going to combine our plans (she uses 1 gb a month) to a 8gb shared plan to upgrade to the N2. We will save 30 bucks a month over what we pay now so it will work for us without any huge concerns. That was my deal with my wife, combine and save money or no phone. It is what it is. Goodbye Unlimited, hello Note 2.
    It sucks, I know but that was the only angle I could work after being laid off of my job of 6 years and having to take a lower paying gig. I want this phone so,...I need to suck it up and move forward. I hope you Guy's can keep unlimited forever but I'm afraid my time is up.
    11-21-2012 12:29 AM
  9. TEEMILL's Avatar
    JUST REMEMBER NOT TO STREAM THINGS LIKE PANDORA, NETFLIX OR IHEART RADIO THAT WILL USE A LOT OF YOUR DATA !

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    11-21-2012 12:34 AM
  10. drum747's Avatar
    I've gotten pretty good at having my media local. Downloading on Wi-Fi only. The only thing ill have to cut back on is my Vulkano. What can I say, i'll have to make it work.
    11-21-2012 12:39 AM
  11. LuvHorses's Avatar
    I am excited to have unlimited with the Note2. I just started using pandora and Netflix

    I bought my Iphone early just to get the unlimited before it was dropped. Not gonna give it up on my account.
    11-21-2012 08:18 AM
  12. NHBass39's Avatar
    I am excited to have unlimited with the Note2. I just started using pandora and Netflix

    I bought my Iphone early just to get the unlimited before it was dropped. Not gonna give it up on my account.
    We all will eventually that is what I was told by a rep. I personally am holding on to one line with unlimited right now with the others on the 2 gb plan. Hopefully we won't lose it.
    11-21-2012 08:44 AM
  13. MittenSportsFan's Avatar
    We all will eventually that is what I was told by a rep. I personally am holding on to one line with unlimited right now with the others on the 2 gb plan. Hopefully we won't lose it.
    A VZW executive told me that it will go away but by natural attrition rather than them pulling the plug.
    Every launch of a new phone causes thousands of subscribers to upgrade and lose their unlimited data. Big Red is discouraging sd card slots and large internal storage from manufacturers to encourage more cloud based data use. They want the iPhone model. Not only do they make huge profits on the sale of the popular phone, but with it's almost all wireless data transfer it is a data hog. When AT&T had it exclusively the iPhone would constantly tie up their network. That is why VZW ordered the DNA without sd slot and only 16gb of internal storage. They want to make you get used to using the cloud instead of keeping data on your phone.
    The DNA is the type of phone that makes having unlimited data essential.
    Verizon won't pull the plug on "grandfathered" unlimited data as long as many of you keep dropping off every day and other carriers continue to offer. Verizon even likes those that don't currently use a lot of data to leave the unlimited plan. It reduces their risk or exposure to potential data hogs even if it costs them a few dollars now. They know as they and other sources continue to offer more and more mobile data, that you can't keep on your phone, your use will increase. I don't use a lot of data (4-5gb and my wife uses less than 1gb) because I spend a lot of time in areas with wifi. But I won't give up my unlimited, if I can help it, because my use is trending up (and if I get that Big, Beautiful GN2 it will go up faster) and I occassionally have 10-20gb months when driving a lot. I don't want to worry about what my data source is (wifi or cellular) because of cost, with unlimited data I can decide on speed and convenience.
    Everyone's situation is different but I wouldn't give up unlimited data so easy.


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    11-21-2012 09:40 AM
  14. in8won's Avatar
    I too paid full retail for Note 2. I did't want to lose unlimited data and I did't want to sign any more contracts with verizon. It feels good not to be held hostage by a two year contract.
    11-21-2012 02:30 PM
  15. Nibs's Avatar
    Why buy a phone like this if you're gonna limit yourself to what you use, when, and where? Google Drive is amazing, but realistically how would you use it and google music to access all your stuff if you have a limited amount of data? These devices are meant to chomp through data, I don't see how anyone would enjoy a Note II by limiting themselves.

    I'm pretty sure the carriers will eventually increase the amount of GB you get as more and more people start using cloud services to their full potential.
    11-21-2012 06:49 PM
  16. pool_shark's Avatar
    I don't understand how a person can think that because some people don't have the same needs/wants as themselves that they are doing something wrong or limiting themselves.

    Google drive is "amazing", really? "Amazing"?
    Childbirth is amazing, spaceflight is amazing, Google drive is not amazing, it's a place to store files.

    I know I'm being argumentative but I hate the overuse of the word amazing.
    People use it to describe everything from a decent meal to a TV show.
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    11-21-2012 07:00 PM
  17. Nibs's Avatar
    I don't understand how a person can think that because some people don't have the same needs/wants as themselves that they are doing something wrong or limiting themselves.

    Google drive is "amazing", really? "Amazing"?
    Childbirth is amazing, spaceflight is amazing, Google drive is not amazing, it's a place to store files.

    I know I'm being argumentative but I hate the overuse of the word amazing.
    People use it to describe everything from a decent meal to a TV show.
    If you enjoy loading everything on ur sd card that's fine. By all means go ahead drag and drop. Like you said we all have our ways of doing things.

    Google drive is phenomenal. (Is that better?)
    11-21-2012 08:50 PM
  18. KingGrimlock's Avatar
    as much as it hurts, i'll most likely be paying full retail too. i want to keep my unlimited data and i kind of don't want to extend my contract just yet (even though ultimately i'll probably stay with verizon; but then i can use my full upgrade with the galaxy note 3 or something!).
    11-21-2012 10:28 PM
  19. pool_shark's Avatar
    If you enjoy loading everything on ur sd card that's fine. By all means go ahead drag and drop. Like you said we all have our ways of doing things.

    Google drive is phenomenal. (Is that better?)
    The drawback of cloud storage is access. There are places where the signal is not very strong and/or there is no access to wifi.
    There is no need for drag and drop, I download everything directly to my phone. I also transfer files to and from my external hard drive via wifi.

    Certain areas of my office have no signal, I've gone to training classes where the signal was so bad it was better to shut the phone off
    I can't use wifi at my office and I don't care to sync data, which includes unencrypted passwords over open wifi.
    11-22-2012 03:53 AM
  20. kashabrown's Avatar
    After much consternation and thought, I have decided to go with the GN2. I have a Gnex that I will be selling with all of my accessories for around $200. I, too, will be paying full retail. I use my phone for personal as well as business use and it is huge part of my daily routine. The GN2 is just what I have been looking for - Android with a super big screen and LTE. I would never give up my unlimited data. I want to hold it in my hand first before I buy it - but I am sure I will be buying it - full retail
    11-23-2012 10:07 PM
  21. Raptor007's Avatar
    You know the one thing I find funny is so many iOS users will gladly pay full price for an iPhone during the contract period as if its somehow more magical than the one they have (typically a feature that is way behind Android by a year or two) and yet they will snicker at Android users who will gladly pay full retail for their phone and it costs less, does more and has better features. One has to wonder.
    11-24-2012 12:24 PM
  22. SSHGuru's Avatar
    Same as me - I use it for business and I have a GN to sell. I hope I can get more than $200. Perfect condition, larger battery, carbon fiber on it, plus about 5 or 6 nice cases. Also extra high end Just Like Glass screen protectors.


    After much consternation and thought, I have decided to go with the GN2. I have a Gnex that I will be selling with all of my accessories for around $200. I, too, will be paying full retail. I use my phone for personal as well as business use and it is huge part of my daily routine. The GN2 is just what I have been looking for - Android with a super big screen and LTE. I would never give up my unlimited data. I want to hold it in my hand first before I buy it - but I am sure I will be buying it - full retail
    11-24-2012 09:02 PM
  23. scorpiodsu's Avatar
    Given that I've been paying full retail for devices for the last year, don't think it's too much. It all depends on the person's situation. I mean if he has a device to offset some of the cost then that makes it even better. But I paid 650 and 750 respectively for the gs3 and iphone 5.... All so I can keep my unlimited. I have 4 upgrades coming in Feb and don't think I'll be using them.

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    11-24-2012 10:22 PM
  24. burwil's Avatar
    Since I too paid full retail they threw in the flip case for free. White case white phone. :-)

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
    11-24-2012 10:40 PM
  25. cw0974's Avatar
    I won't be paying full retail, but I think if there was one phone to spend full retail, this is it.
    11-24-2012 10:47 PM
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