Samsung vs apple court case??

[JHBThree]

Apple won't have to add it. With how clearly they demolished Samsung, Samsung will HAVE to negotiate going forward. They can't afford multiple billion dollar verdicts against them.

 

[cjsmoove]

For anybody that has any insight, what will it mean to us S3 users if Samsung loses in court which is what I'm seeing?? Will it be a drastic change? Only the Google search feature, which I still have? Or minor issues unrelated to the S3, which I'm hoping, and will it impact furture Samsung phones??? I sure hate to go back to Motorola or HTC....:-!

 

[droid83]

Well from what I just heard its bad news all around for samsung. Guilty on multiple devices and $1.5 Billions awarded to apple. What does that means for for the S3. Is it a get it while you can before its gets pull off the shelves deal. We'll have to wait on that. No devices has been named yet but Galaxy tab found not infringing on the Ipad. But Sammy's taking a beating today. Yikes....

 

[cjsmoove]

THAT...is good!

 

[droid83]

Here's an update on the case. The questions are numeric. To all the legal minds in here, Feel free to read thru these rulings and enlight us a bit. This is just a live transcript of the ruling. Ruling has not ended. Dont see the S3 anywhere.



4:19:26 PM PDT

Both parties are now reviewing the jury verdict form.
4:14:09 PM PDT

Apple didn't win everything — not by a long shot — but it won enough to make this a very important day.
4:13:08 PM PDT

Suffice to say, Samsung's legal team cannot be happy right now.
4:12:47 PM PDT

Both decisions for Apple.
4:12:42 PM PDT

'516: yes. '941: yes.
4:12:34 PM PDT

Has Apple proven by a preponderance of the evidence that Samsung is barred by patent exhaustion from enforcing the following Samsung patents against Apple?
4:12:28 PM PDT

Patent exhaustion. The Intel question.
4:12:17 PM PDT

No.
4:12:14 PM PDT

Has Apple proven by a preponderance of the evidence that Samsung has violated Section 2 of the Sherman Antitrust Act by monopolizing one or more technology markets related to the UMTS standard?
4:12:04 PM PDT

Question 31.
4:12:01 PM PDT

No.
4:11:54 PM PDT

Did Apple prove that Samsung breached it's obligations when developing the UTMS standard?
4:11:36 PM PDT

Antitrust.
4:11:30 PM PDT

Damages from Samsung to Apple: zero.
4:11:03 PM PDT

DId Apple prove they were invalid? No across the board
4:10:32 PM PDT

No across the board. Wow. Nothing on Samsung's utility patents.
4:10:12 PM PDT

No on all but the iPod touch. It's up next...
4:09:37 PM PDT

'460 no across the board
4:09:22 PM PDT

'516 No
4:08:52 PM PDT

'460: literally infirngement for 3GS: no
4:08:46 PM PDT

'893 iPhone 3GS No
4:08:38 PM PDT

'711 iPhone 3GS: No
4:08:31 PM PDT

'711 Patent on iPhone 3G No. '460 on iPhone 3G: no.
4:08:11 PM PDT

Samsung's claims against Apple up next
4:08:02 PM PDT

Transform: $954,060
4:07:51 PM PDT

Replenish: $3,350,256
4:07:40 PM PDT

$53,123,612 for the Mesmerize
4:07:30 PM PDT

Going through the damages for each phone. More than $57 million for the Prevail. Infused 4G: $44,792,974
4:04:36 PM PDT

1 billion, 51 million 855 thousand dollars
4:04:03 PM PDT

Damages.
4:03:59 PM PDT

STA: No for unregisted iphone trade dress and iPad Trade dress
4:03:42 PM PDT

SEA: No for iPad Trade Dress.
4:02:39 PM PDT

Question 19
4:02:30 PM PDT

No for Captivate, Continuum, Droid Charge, Epic 4G, Prevail, S2 ATT, S2 T-Mobile, Epic 4G Touch, Skyrocket, and Infuse 4G.
4:02:08 PM PDT

For STA: Yes for Fascinate, Galaxy S 4G, Showcase, Mesmerize, and Vibrant.
4:01:50 PM PDT

No for Captivate, Continuum, Droid Charge, Epic 4G, Prevail, S2 ATT, S2 i9100, S2 T-Mobile, Epic 4G Touch, Skyrocket, and Infuse 4G.
4:01:25 PM PDT

For SEC: Yes to Fascinate, Galaxy S i9000, S 4G, Showcase, Mesmerize, Vibrant.
4:01:04 PM PDT

If you found the unregistered iPhone 3G trade dress protectable and famous, for each of the following products, has Apple proven by a preponderance of the evidence that Samsung Electronics Co. (SEC) and/or Samsung Telecommunications America (STA) has diluted the unregistered iPhone 3G trade dress?
4:00:51 PM PDT

Question 16.
4:00:45 PM PDT

STA: Yes for Fascinate, Galaxy S 4G, Showcase, Mesmerize, Vibrant. No for Captivate, Droid Charge, Epic 4G, Galaxy Prevail S2 ATT, S2 Tmobile, Epic 4G Touch, Skyrocket, and Infuse 4G.
4:00:06 PM PDT

No for Captive, Droid Charge, Epic 4G, S2, Epic 4G Touch, Skyrocket, Infuse 4G
3:59:39 PM PDT

Yes on Fascinate, i9000, Galaxy S 4G, Showcase, Mesmerize, Vibrant.
3:59:26 PM PDT

SEC
3:59:22 PM PDT
15
3:59:13 PM PDT

Dilution? Apple provide Registered iPhone and unreigsted iphone 3G diluted, no others.
3:58:39 PM PDT

Apple has proven only the iPhone 3G trade dress protectable.
3:58:15 PM PDT

On to trade dress. Samsung has NOT proven that'893 trade dress is not protectable.
3:57:50 PM PDT

No across the board. Not a single one proven invalid by Samsung.
3:57:33 PM PDT

381 Not proven invalid.
3:57:16 PM PDT

Invalidity. Another biggie.
3:57:06 PM PDT

STA: Yes for all but D'087 and D'889
3:56:41 PM PDT

SEA: Yes for 381, 915, 163
3:56:23 PM PDT

SEC: Yes for all but D'087 and D'889
3:56:00 PM PDT

Sorry, last question was whether Samsung should have known. This next one is willfulness.
3:55:33 PM PDT

'889 No for both Galaxy Tab models.
3:55:25 PM PDT

D'305: Yes for Captivate, Continuum, Showcase, Gem, Indugle, Infuse 4G, Mesmerize, Vibrant.
3:54:58 PM PDT

D'087: Yes for S 4G, Vibrant. No for S2 ATT, S2 Epic 4G Touch, S2 Skyrocket, Infuse 4G.
3:54:36 PM PDT

D'677: Yes for Fascinate, S 4G, S2 ATT, S2 Tmobile, Epic 4G Touch, Skyrocket, Showcase, Infuse 4G, Mesmerize, and Vibrant
3:54:06 PM PDT

Question 9 — was Samsung willful in its infringement? Big one here for damages.
3:53:43 PM PDT

No across the board
3:53:09 PM PDT

D'889 Patent.
3:53:05 PM PDT

For STA: Yes for Captivate, Continuum, Chrarge, Epic 4G, Fascinate, S 4G, Gem, Indulge, Infuse 4G, Mesmerize and Vibrant.
3:52:28 PM PDT

Yes for Captivate, Continuum, Droid Charge, Epic 4G, Fascinate, Galaxy S i9000, S 4G, Showcase, Gem, Indulge, Infuse 4G, Mesmerize, and Vibrant.
3:52:01 PM PDT

Again, SEC up first.
3:51:54 PM PDT

The D'305 patent.
3:51:45 PM PDT

Question 7.
3:51:38 PM PDT

For STA: yes on S 4G and Vibrant only.
3:51:25 PM PDT

Yes for S i9000, S 4G, and Vibrant. No for S2 ATT, S2 i9100, Epic 4G Touch, Skyrocket, and Infuse 4G.
3:50:57 PM PDT

D'087 Patent. SEC up first.
3:50:44 PM PDT

for STA, Yes for Galaxy S 4G, S2 Tmobile, S2 Epic 4G Touch, Skyrocket, Showcase, Infuse 4G, Mesmerize, and Vibrant
3:50:22 PM PDT

that was for SEC
3:50:16 PM PDT

No for Ace.
3:50:14 PM PDT

Yes for Fascinate, Galaxy S, S 4G, S 2 ATT, S2 i9100, S2 Tmobile, S 2 Epic 4G touch, Skyrocket, Showcase, Infuse 4G, Mesmerize, and Vibrant.
3:49:40 PM PDT

Infringement of D'677 patent.
3:49:22 PM PDT

No for Captiavet, Continuum, Gem, Indulge, Nexus S 4G, Transform, and Vibrant
3:49:06 PM PDT

'163: Yes for Droid Charge, Epic 4G, xhibit 4G, Fascinate, Galaxy Prevail, S 4G, S 2 ATT, S2 Tmobile, Tab, Tab 10.1, Infuse 4G, Mesmerize, and Replenish.
3:48:36 PM PDT

No for Replenish
3:48:34 PM PDT

'915: Yes for Captivate, Continuum, Droid harge, Epic 4G, Exhibit, Fascinate, Prevaila, S 4G, S 2 ATT, S2 Tmobile, Galaxy Tab, Tab 10.1, Gem, Indulge, Infuse 4G, Intecept, Mesmerize, Nexus, Transform, and Vibrant
3:47:22 PM PDT

'381: Yes for all devices.
3:47:15 PM PDT

Inducement for '381 '915 '163
3:46:59 PM PDT

Question 4
3:46:57 PM PDT

No for Captivate, Indulge, Intercept, Nexus S 4G, Transform and Vibrant
3:46:44 PM PDT

for STA: Yes for Droid Charge, Epic 4G, Fascinate, Prevail, S 4G, SII ATT, S 2 TMobile, Galaxy Tab, Mesmerize and Replanish
3:46:14 PM PDT

For SEA: Galaxy Tab 10.1 Yes.
3:46:02 PM PDT

No for Captivate, COntinuum, Gem, Indulge, INtercept, Nexus S 4G, Transform, and Vibrant. Yes for Fascinate.
3:45:38 PM PDT

Yes for Droid Charge, Epic 4G, Exhibit 4G, Fascinate, Ace, Prevail, Galaxy X, Galaxy S 4g, S II AT&T, i9100, S II Tmobile, Galaxy Tab, Tab 10.1, Infuse 4G, Mesmerize, and Replenish
3:45:02 PM PDT

SEC up first
3:44:58 PM PDT

Claim 50 of '163 patent
3:44:47 PM PDT

Question 3
3:44:42 PM PDT

No on intercept and Replenish
3:44:36 PM PDT

for STA: Yes for Captiavte, Continuum, Droid Charge, Exhibit, Prevail, Galaxy S 4G, S II AT&T, SII T Mobile, Galaxy Tab, Gem, Indulge, Infuse 4G, Mesmerize, Nexus S 4G, Tranform and Vibrant
3:43:57 PM PDT

For SEA: Yes on Galaxy Tab 10.1
3:43:51 PM PDT

No on Ace Intercept and Replenish
3:43:45 PM PDT

For SEC Captivate, continuum, droid charge, fascinate, Galaxy Prevail, Galaxy S 4G, Galaxy S II, i9100, Galaxy s 2 Tmobile, Tab, Tab 10.1, Gem, Indulge, Infuse, Nexus S 4G, all yes
3:42:58 PM PDT

Question Two. Claim 8 of 915 patent
3:42:41 PM PDT

Continuum, Droid Charge, Exhibit 4G, Galasy Ace, Prevail, S 4G, S II, Galaxy Tab, The Gem, Indulge, Infuse 4G, Mesmerie, Nexus S 4G, Replenish and Vibrant
3:42:07 PM PDT

STA yes for Captivate
3:42:03 PM PDT

for SEA, Galaxy Tab Wifi
3:41:43 PM PDT

Answer for all devices is YES

 

[byrds8]

I do not believe the S3 was listed in the devices. Correct me if I am wrong.

 

[Murphy5111]

I do not believe the S3 was listed in the devices. Correct me if I am wrong.

Pretty sure you're correct. I don't think they could have added based on when it came out. Maybe in round two?

Sent from my SCH-I535 using Android Central Forums

 

[JHBThree]

Pretty sure you're correct. I don't think they could have added based on when it came out. Maybe in round two?

Sent from my SCH-I535 using Android Central Forums

I doubt there will be a round two. The breadth of the loss for Samsung is going to make them reevaluate whether they should continue to fight.

Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2

 

[MrSmith317]

Samsung should continue to fight especially since somehow the international versions of these phones were summarily judged as non-infringing by the judge(who happens to be an ex Apple employee...can you say conflict of interest?) We need to have tech jurors for tech cases. Apple seriously put up the distortion field on this one...Since when did the Fascinate look any bit like an iPhone?? I mean other than it was a phone and has an LED screen.

 

[JHBThree]

Samsung should continue to fight especially since somehow the international versions of these phones were summarily judged as non-infringing by the judge(who happens to be an ex Apple employee...can you say conflict of interest?) We need to have tech jurors for tech cases. Apple seriously put up the distortion field on this one...Since when did the Fascinate look any bit like an iPhone?? I mean other than it was a phone and has an LED screen.

Koh is not an ex apple employee.

Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2

 

[droid83]

Samsung will fight. See the top of this short transcript. Date is set for round 2

6:39:49 PM PDT

One thing is for certain, however: as Samsung said in its statement, this isn't done. We're signing off for now, but we'll be back in court when the two sides discuss an injunction against Samsung products in just a few weeks.
6:34:15 PM PDT

And it looks like we're done for the day. The jurors snuck out a back entrance with the help of the court staff, without speaking to the media.
6:14:41 PM PDT

Koh's continuing to be hardline in make the parties manage the case, giving Apple and Samsung page limits for their filings.
6:14:21 PM PDT

The hearing will be on September 20th.
6:12:58 PM PDT

Koh proposes that Apple file by August 29th. Samsung would have 14 days to draft its response, due on September 12th. Apple will have just two days to draft its response, and it will be due September 14th.

 

[JHBThree]

Samsung will fight. See the top of this short transcript. Date is set for round 2

6:39:49 PM PDT

One thing is for certain, however: as Samsung said in its statement, this isn't done. We're signing off for now, but we'll be back in court when the two sides discuss an injunction against Samsung products in just a few weeks.
6:34:15 PM PDT

And it looks like we're done for the day. The jurors snuck out a back entrance with the help of the court staff, without speaking to the media.
6:14:41 PM PDT

Koh's continuing to be hardline in make the parties manage the case, giving Apple and Samsung page limits for their filings.
6:14:21 PM PDT

The hearing will be on September 20th.
6:12:58 PM PDT

Koh proposes that Apple file by August 29th. Samsung would have 14 days to draft its response, due on September 12th. Apple will have just two days to draft its response, and it will be due September 14th.

I don't think they will. The precedent has been set, and they cannot afford any more billion dollar judgements.

Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2

 

[Ry]

For anybody that has any insight, what will it mean to us S3 users if Samsung loses in court which is what I'm seeing?? Will it be a drastic change? Only the Google search feature, which I still have? Or minor issues unrelated to the S3, which I'm hoping, and will it impact furture Samsung phones??? I sure hate to go back to Motorola or HTC....:-!

AFAIK, the S3 isn't involved in this current case at all.

Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Android Central Forums

 

[cjsmoove]

that is good to hear..