01-31-2011 01:48 PM
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  1. Atomic_Monkey's Avatar
    My area won't have 4g service for about a year. I want to get my first smartphone, but can't wait for dualcore, and don't want Iphone. Will it be possible to get the thunderbolt with a 3g plan? No way am I paying 4g prices if I can't get 4g service...
    01-25-2011 01:31 PM
  2. vdefender's Avatar
    We still don't know the answer to this question The latest leak hints that LTE prices will be higher. I seriously doubt that verizon has a way of blocking you from using LTE on the phone. In other words, you pay for the LTE or you buy a different phone without it. It looks like there are a few new android phones in the pipes which will not be LTE. I think they are doing this to satisfy the customers who wont have LTE for awhile.
    01-25-2011 01:40 PM
  3. INK's Avatar
    I'm 100% percent sure Verizon wouldn't make the phone 4g exclusive, seeing as they have alot of places not covered by their 4g lte service.

    Also I'm sure even if you did have 4g in your city that if you roamed out of the 4g coverage area that it would revert to 3g, otherwise Verizon wouldn't be able to sell many 4g phones as most of us are 3g covered.
    01-25-2011 01:43 PM
  4. Atomic_Monkey's Avatar
    We still don't know the answer to this question The latest leak hints that LTE prices will be higher. I seriously doubt that verizon has a way of blocking you from using LTE on the phone. In other words, you pay for the LTE or you buy a different phone without it. It looks like there are a few new android phones in the pipes which will not be LTE. I think they are doing this to satisfy the customers who wont have LTE for awhile.
    thx, if this is so, can't see it selling outside of those 38 cities. Also means i will either have to put a bullet in my head waiting for a smartphone or get a f#%$ing crapple Iphone...eww
    01-25-2011 01:46 PM
  5. htowngator's Avatar
    Absolutely not. It's a 4G radio phone so they will charge you for 4G data plan.
    01-25-2011 02:13 PM
  6. rewd's Avatar
    Absolutely not. It's a 4G radio phone so they will charge you for 4G data plan.
    Ignore this ***** please. He's so full of crap its not even funny.

    The HTC Thunderbolt is not a "4G radio phone". It supports verizons LTE 4G network AND CDMA EV.DO.
    01-25-2011 02:54 PM
  7. htowngator's Avatar
    Ignore this ***** please. He's so full of crap its not even funny.

    The HTC Thunderbolt is not a "4G radio phone". It supports verizons LTE 4G network AND CDMA EV.DO.
    This *****? LMAO

    It is a 4g/3g radio phone to be more specific. It has BOTH. Verizon won't simply let you purchase it without charging you for the 4G data option. It just won't happen so better to get over it now than worry about it.

    I know more about this tech than you likely do so please spare me the insults. I was speaking from a "wwVZWd" approach -- they will charge for 4G since the phone has the radio in it. Can you buy a 3G smartphone w/o a data plan now?
    01-25-2011 03:04 PM
  8. Chris Kerrigan's Avatar
    Do not insult or make assumptions about other members, I won't tolerate it. Let's keep this on topic.
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    01-25-2011 03:07 PM
  9. experiment 626's Avatar
    The HTC Thunderbolt is not a "4G radio phone". It supports verizons LTE 4G network AND CDMA EV.DO.
    I really wish Verizon would show off how they plan to offer their LTE.I've only seen and read bits and pieces,including the pics of their 4G LTE "SIM cards". Strictly as a guess I'll say ThunderBolt buyers will have the option to use their Bolt as a 3G device(using it's EVDO Rev.A radio) or upgrading their data speeds by signing up for an LTE data plan and inserting their LTE "SIM card" which will allow them access to 4G service. This way people will have a choice to upgrading to the newest Android phones even if LTE is not in their area yet. Also they can still upgrade even if they're happy with their current EVDO speeds. It's a real smart plan since it doesn't force people who want to upgrade into having to choose a more expensive data package. And they still have the option to do it later if they wish.
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    01-25-2011 03:18 PM
  10. juskrs51's Avatar
    I really wish Verizon would show off how they plan to offer their LTE.I've only seen and read bits and pieces,including the pics of their 4G LTE "SIM cards". Strictly as a guess I'll say ThunderBolt buyers will have the option to use their Bolt as a 3G device(using it's EVDO Rev.A radio) or upgrading their data speeds by signing up for an LTE data plan and inserting their LTE "SIM card" which will allow them access to 4G service. This way people will have a choice to upgrading to the newest Android phones even if LTE is not in their area yet. Also they can still upgrade even if they're happy with their current EVDO speeds. It's a real smart plan since it doesn't force people who want to upgrade into having to choose a more expensive data package. And they still have the option to do it later if they wish.

    This makes some good sense to me. Whats the point of having a LTE SIM Card, if VZW is going to make you have a 4G Data Plan. There would be no need for the SIM Card because the device would have to pick up both 4G & 3G signal, just like the EVO on Sprint, thus you would have to have the 4G LTE Data Plan, just like Sprint did with the EVO and WiMax.

    So in my mind, say you live in an area with no 4G LTE for another year, buy the TBolt with no 4G LTE SIM Card, you're stuck with 3G Speeds and a 3G data plan (since it has the 3G Radio in it), but 4G LTE comes to your area, you want in on it, you get a 4G LTE SIM Card, and now you pay the 4G LTE data plan prices, insert the card into the TBolt and you become "lighting" fast.

    This would fall in line with the 3G Smartphone Unlimited plans they just leaked too. Plus VZW does this, they are setting a new industry standard by allowing the consumer to chose what they want to consume, not forcing the consumer to purchase something they don't want (unlike Sprint).

    Not an expert on this by any means, just thinking thru, given what we know.
    01-25-2011 04:31 PM
  11. Lactose The Intolerant's Avatar
    I really wish Verizon would show off how they plan to offer their LTE.I've only seen and read bits and pieces,including the pics of their 4G LTE "SIM cards". Strictly as a guess I'll say ThunderBolt buyers will have the option to use their Bolt as a 3G device(using it's EVDO Rev.A radio) or upgrading their data speeds by signing up for an LTE data plan and inserting their LTE "SIM card" which will allow them access to 4G service. This way people will have a choice to upgrading to the newest Android phones even if LTE is not in their area yet. Also they can still upgrade even if they're happy with their current EVDO speeds. It's a real smart plan since it doesn't force people who want to upgrade into having to choose a more expensive data package. And they still have the option to do it later if they wish.
    I'm hoping this is the case... I live in a little podunk town (how little, you ask? well, people who live in BFE look at this place and go 'ewww').

    I very much love my 3g coverage -- LTE is a long way off here. My D-Inc is great but the screen size is starting to hinder me. I'm looking at the TB for its screen not its 4G capability... and before you say "DX" - no thanks, the 4.3" is configured the wrong way.

    Guess we'll know in a couple of weeks...
    01-25-2011 04:54 PM
  12. abocornwall's Avatar
    Why would they charge more for 4G on snartphones if there charging the same amout of money for 4G as they are for 3G on the thumbdrive
    01-25-2011 06:58 PM
  13. bstmstrxellos's Avatar
    Why is everyone assuming that 4g data on a smartphone will cost more? T-mobile doesn't charge a premium and Spirit "4g charge" was 10 extra a month, but they claimed it wasn't a 4g charge and are now going to tack that extra 10 on all smart phones not just the 4g ones.
    01-25-2011 07:24 PM
  14. rewd's Avatar
    This *****? LMAO

    It is a 4g/3g radio phone to be more specific. It has BOTH.
    Right. Thanks for reiterating what I said and not repeating your incorrect information.
    01-25-2011 08:16 PM
  15. rewd's Avatar
    I really wish Verizon would show off how they plan to offer their LTE.I've only seen and read bits and pieces,including the pics of their 4G LTE "SIM cards". Strictly as a guess I'll say ThunderBolt buyers will have the option to use their Bolt as a 3G device(using it's EVDO Rev.A radio) or upgrading their data speeds by signing up for an LTE data plan and inserting their LTE "SIM card" which will allow them access to 4G service. This way people will have a choice to upgrading to the newest Android phones even if LTE is not in their area yet. Also they can still upgrade even if they're happy with their current EVDO speeds. It's a real smart plan since it doesn't force people who want to upgrade into having to choose a more expensive data package. And they still have the option to do it later if they wish.
    You sir, are the winner.
    01-25-2011 08:17 PM
  16. vdefender's Avatar
    I really wish Verizon would show off how they plan to offer their LTE.I've only seen and read bits and pieces,including the pics of their 4G LTE "SIM cards". Strictly as a guess I'll say ThunderBolt buyers will have the option to use their Bolt as a 3G device(using it's EVDO Rev.A radio) or upgrading their data speeds by signing up for an LTE data plan and inserting their LTE "SIM card" which will allow them access to 4G service. This way people will have a choice to upgrading to the newest Android phones even if LTE is not in their area yet. Also they can still upgrade even if they're happy with their current EVDO speeds. It's a real smart plan since it doesn't force people who want to upgrade into having to choose a more expensive data package. And they still have the option to do it later if they wish.
    Wow, yeah! That would be great!!
    01-25-2011 08:22 PM
  17. INK's Avatar
    Yeah wasn't there a pic of a 4g lte sim card floating around?
    01-25-2011 08:49 PM
  18. SUB-dawg's Avatar
    Yeah wasn't there a pic of a 4g lte sim card floating around?
    here it is

    01-25-2011 09:29 PM
  19. INK's Avatar
    here it is

    Looked at the card and said wtf thats huge then saw the sim card.

    On another note its pretty looking. you are thanked sir.
    01-25-2011 09:36 PM
  20. honex97's Avatar
    What about having the option on 4g not to have a package but pay per MB? This way if you don't live in a 4g area you will never us 4g and will never be charged.
    01-25-2011 10:40 PM
  21. Raptor007's Avatar
    While I take great pleasure in the ongoing back and forth across many of the forums about the release date and LTE pricing and how there seems to be the one person who knows a person "in the know". Seriously it is fun to read, I take my own beliefs, if there is one constant in the world of wireless carriers, its that they change what they want, when they want and don't care what the customers want.

    That said, over at DroidForums.net tonight user UNC stated he knows someone at the corporate office in VA (I thought it was in NJ, go figure) anyways he knows someone and that person says 4G LTE pricing ain't so pretty.

    It will be $50 per for 5GB per month + $15 per 1GB overage.

    Now I take that with the usual grain of salt because until its published someone's say so doesn't mean it's so. Verizon has not announced it and until they do its still just speculation.

    Now enjoy the party.
    01-25-2011 11:12 PM
  22. honex97's Avatar
    While I take great pleasure in the ongoing back and forth across many of the forums about the release date and LTE pricing and how there seems to be the one person who knows a person "in the know". Seriously it is fun to read, I take my own beliefs, if there is one constant in the world of wireless carriers, its that they change what they want, when they want and don't care what the customers want.

    That said, over at DroidForums.net tonight user UNC stated he knows someone at the corporate office in VA (I thought it was in NJ, go figure) anyways he knows someone and that person says 4G LTE pricing ain't so pretty.

    It will be $50 per for 5GB per month + $15 per 1GB overage.

    Now I take that with the usual grain of salt because until its published someone's say so doesn't mean it's so. Verizon has not announced it and until they do its still just speculation.

    Now enjoy the party.
    If that's is true the day they announce that is the day I get the incredible
    01-25-2011 11:23 PM
  23. experiment 626's Avatar
    It will be $50 per for 5GB per month + $15 per 1GB overage.
    If that's the pricing,or even close to it, that Verizon has in mind for it's LTE service it's dead to me.
    01-25-2011 11:35 PM
  24. paulmike3's Avatar
    If 4G is $50 I'll be taking my $ to Sprint. And I know of at least a dozen other friends of mine that will do the same. Hopefully VZW reads what we're writing, because an asinine move like that would destroy their credibility and their "fan base", and drive customers that have been with them for a decade right out the door faster than you can say "Evo".

    Can you imagine how easy the marketing campaigns for T-Mo and Sprint would be if all they had to do was say "we're the 4G network that doesn't charge you $600 a year to surf the web on your phone"?
    01-26-2011 12:06 AM
  25. htowngator's Avatar
    Right. Thanks for reiterating what I said and not repeating your incorrect information.
    :smh

    Sweet mercy, do you understand the point at all? Verizon COULD only charge you for 3G on a phone that is capable of 4G, but this is Verizon. If they can charge you for breathing while you use your phone then they'd likely try (since you're not a smart fellow I'll just tell you directly that I was being facetious there).

    Verizon isn't going to give anything out for free that they can charge you to use.
    01-26-2011 09:08 AM
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