I was in the Verizon store where I live to have my wife's IPhone looked at(Wont keep a charge). Anyways while they were looking at her phone and putting it through its tests I was talking to a salesman and I was telling him that I was due for a upgrade and he tried pushing the IPhone on me real hard and I told him I was waiting on the thunderbolt. He went in back and got a dummy model to show me and I checked it out and pretty much made up my mind that the thunderbolt was what I wanted. So he told me that they had no idea or date when the phone was going to be released, nothing has been given to the store's by Verizon. He then showed me that the Thunderbolt IS in their system but it does say coming soon, but no date. He then went into another screen that showed all the new devices they had coming out within the next 14 days and their were 6, 5 phones and the tablet, again no Thunderbolt. He did say that they had been trained on the phone but the delay was not them, it is HTC and Verizon will not release their first 4g phone until its 100% functional and he said that to his knowledge it was not yet. So from what he said, if the phone was going to come out in the next 14 days it would have showed in that section of upcoming devices but it wasn't there. Anyone that works for Verizon is probably familiar with what I am talking about. So, anyways his guess was mid March since they had been trained already and received the dummy's but he said the 24 and 28 were for sure a no go. It sucks but it looks like the wait will continue for a few more weeks. I know alot of people on here have been saying all sorts of dates and giving stories, but he gave me no date or anything. He simply said that Verizon DOES NOT have these phones yet and it for sure will not be out this month. Take it for what it is but atleast now I have a little better idea. He said the minute it showed that he would let me know and it wouldn't be a spur of the moment type thing. People will get a notice and time to get ready to buy the phone, it just won't show up in stores out of the blue basically. So, if I hear anything I will keep everyone informed. I hope I didn't ruin anyone's night or week but that's the info I was given and shown tonight. Sorry guys.