1. Nate82's Avatar
    Does anyone know how I can get the latest updated software for my note 3. Tried to download the update but I got an error when trying to download it on my rooted note 3. Came across flashing it with Odin and some other software, but hesitant on doing so don't want to brick my phone... Kinda a newbie at this. Please help

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    12-09-2014 01:23 PM
  2. prubin's Avatar
    Kies worked for me but I wish I had not. Root was better than 4.4.4
    12-09-2014 10:45 PM
  3. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    You have to unroot but you won't be able to root again, unless they have figured it out at xda. Unless you don't care if you trip Knox, then you should be able to update and reroot.

    I would check the forums at xda.
    Rukbat likes this.
    12-10-2014 01:24 AM
  4. Lefty Drummer's Avatar
    I was able to load 4.4.4 without unrooting. Yes there's no root available, but I honestly didn't see the benefits of staying rooted anymore. I lost a couple apps, but it hasn't been the end of the world. Strange that it didn't wipe everything clean (installed via Odin), and the Samsung logo showed the unlock even after installing, until I totally shut off the phone and then restarted. It's been good, and at least on my phone battery life seems to be better.
    12-10-2014 07:54 AM
  5. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    I don't use custom roms, the benefit of rooting for me is simply getting rid of carrier bloatware.
    12-10-2014 01:47 PM
  6. Nate82's Avatar
    Thank you all for your input. Is the new update even worth it or should I hold off until the 5.0 lollipop.. Please advise??

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    12-10-2014 01:52 PM
  7. Nate82's Avatar
    Also for the rerouting, I'm curious couldn't one just try the different types of roots out there if one way of rooting didn't work?? For example I used towel root and I got rooted in a matter of minutes so if I was to update and it wouldn't allow me to reroot with towel, would another method work??. Also with the Kies way what do I need to try it that way... Thanks for everyone's help and input

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    12-10-2014 01:56 PM
  8. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    Also for the rerouting, I'm curious couldn't one just try the different types of roots out there if one way of rooting didn't work?? For example I used towel root and I got rooted in a matter of minutes so if I was to update and it wouldn't allow me to reroot with towel, would another method work??. Also with the Kies way what do I need to try it that way... Thanks for everyone's help and input

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    The 4.4.4 didn't really do anything different with my N3, maybe a little better battery.

    I rooted my S5 with Towel Root the other day. I had to flash on old kernel at first with Odin before towel root would work. This is the thread on the S5 concerning it, they probably have a thread concerning the N3 and this same issue. You have to look in their N3 forum.

    http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-...a-zip-t2862299
    12-10-2014 02:54 PM
  9. Rukbat's Avatar
    "different types of roots" isn't the answer. The reason Towel Root doesn't work on later kernels is that what Towel Root used to root has been patched in kernels dated June 3, 2014 or later. The rooting method has to find some software "flaw" to exploit to gain temporary root in order to root the phone. (You have to be rooted to root - rooting requires writing to a system folder that you have to be rooted to do.) As each rooting method is released, Google, the manufacturers and the carriers write patches so that method can no longer work. The methods that worked on 4.1.2 were patched a long time ago, so they won't work any more. Someone has to find a flaw in the current ROM (or some manufacturer's or carrier's modification of it) that allows temporary root. (They're always "improving" Android, and any code written is going to have some bugs - any one of which might allow rooting.) If you want to update to 4.4.4, or 5.0 or 5.0.1 and still root, watch the forum for your phone on XDA and wait until someone comes up with a root for it. (I waited about 6 months to update from 4.3 to 4.4.2 until Geohot figured out how to write Towel Root. I won't run without root.) What does 4.4.4 or Lollipop give me that I don't already have? Other than a few percent more battery life (and with almost everything Greenified, I have a lot), just about nothing. (I'm already running Lollipop icons and some Lollipop apps, and a Lollipop camera won't give my camera hardware functions that it doesn't already have.)

    Reasons to root? First, it's Linux, and running linux without root is like running a race without feet. Root access is part of Linux. There are things you can't do without it. (I'm in adb or a terminal app a lot.) Second, there are apps I run, and don't want to do without, that require root access to do what they do. Bloat? I've removed sme but, even though I install a lot of apps to see why they're doing something (to help people here), and don't always uninstall them, I still have some(like 8GB) internal storage left, so I don't care much about bloat yet. (I do have a lot of apps frozen - I don't need them, so I don't want them running. Some day I'll unfreeze them, back them up and uninstall them, along with a lot of apps I just don't use. Some day, a Note 3, with 32GB of internal storage, is going to seem awfully small, with people "writing" apps by dragging and dropping icons onto "do everything" skeletons, which results in 500MB of code that doesn't do anything in each app you install - the same 500MB of code.)
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    12-10-2014 03:18 PM
  10. truckerhiob's Avatar
    How can I get rid of message from Verizon that I have updates ready to be installed? My Note3 is rooted and I cannot install that update. Frankly I don't care - I am perfectly happy with old software, however I don't want to have that message popping up in my screen every few hours. Any idea how to stop that?
    01-15-2015 04:01 AM
  11. Pykus427's Avatar
    Open your file explorer (I used ES Explorer), go to the root directory and search for update.zip. It was in either /data/fota or /cache/fota. I'd guess its the latter, but whichever works.

    I moved that file just in case deleting it turned out to be a mistake. It wasn't.

    I went to settings -> about phone -> software update and chose to update now.

    When it tried to update it errored out and after restarting I get no more messages.
    01-16-2015 05:22 AM
  12. truckerhiob's Avatar
    Open your file explorer (I used ES Explorer), go to the root directory and search for...
    :oops: I lost you right here. I used ES Explorer too and I do not see any "root directory". Please, explain...
    01-16-2015 06:49 AM
  13. oldguy1950's Avatar
    Root directory is /

    That's it! You should see .system, acct, and cache among the first sub-folders. The OTA is in /cache in a sub-directory called, /cache/fota.

    Quickest way to stop OTA notifications is to use Titanium Backup to freeze or uninstall SDM 1.0. That will also block future attempts to download OTA updates. I have mine frozen until a root method is found for 4.4.4. As soon as the notifications started, I put the update on "wait" and checked to see if there are root methods. Finding none, I then found this method for stopping the notifications. However, I first moved the /cache/fota folder to my external SD card using Root Explorer so I can retrieve and apply the update if I ever decide I need it.
    01-18-2015 01:57 AM
  14. truckerhiob's Avatar
    Root directory is /

    That's it! You should see .system, acct, and cache among the first sub-folders. The OTA is in /cache in a sub-directory called, /cache/fota.
    I know I should, but I don't. :-( I have no idea where to look.

    If I go to Root Browser -> cache -> fota I don't have anything there. Empty folder. Or, to be precise, I have green arrow pointing NW, two dots and words: "Parent folder".

    Quickest way to stop OTA notifications is to use Titanium Backup to freeze or uninstall SDM 1.0. That will also block future attempts to download OTA updates. I have mine frozen until a root method is found for 4.4.4. As soon as the notifications started, I put the update on "wait" and checked to see if there are root methods. Finding none, I then found this method for stopping the notifications. However, I first moved the /cache/fota folder to my external SD card using Root Explorer so I can retrieve and apply the update if I ever decide I need it.
    I was able to do that. I couldn't freeze it, but I could uninstall it, so I did. Thx. I hope it will work.
    01-18-2015 08:48 AM
  15. jcm2582's Avatar
    You have to go into es file explorer settings ([swipe right] > settings > display settings) and enable "show hidden files". Then you [swipe right] > Toggle "Root Explorer" to "On"

    the file is in cache > fota > update.exe

    Move that, and it works like a charm.
    03-27-2015 02:46 PM
  16. Joseph Alves1's Avatar
    I had trouble updating my Note 3 (not rooted). I would get errors about network unavailable, saying my phone is up to date even though it's two versions behind, and update interrupted before even starting the update. I was on support forums and AT&T wasted 20 minutes just collecting information and then telling me to take it to a store without any troubleshooting.

    Eventually I took my wife's phone and put her SIM in my phone, changed the date so I could try for another update, but still wouldn't update. Without changing the date back I put my SIM back in and it started updating right after startup. I don't know that it's the fact that I put her SIM in I'm thinking you just need to reseat the SIM, change the date, and reboot.
    05-09-2015 09:26 AM

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