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  1. MikeLip's Avatar
    Doesn't have to be. Its still entertaining
    06-30-2013 03:46 PM
  2. pappy53's Avatar
    It would be if it was true.

    Sent from my Nexus 10 using AC Forums mobile app
    It is true for a LOT of people.
    06-30-2013 04:07 PM
  3. MikeLip's Avatar
    It is true for a LOT of people.
    Yes it is. Even though I slashed and burned as much crapware from mine as I could I still get stutters. My Note 2 is quicker and smoother. So was my DNA.
    chrscaley likes this.
    07-01-2013 06:06 AM
  4. chris2k5's Avatar
    DNA was butter smooth from my usage. Note 2 didn't lag as much as S4 at all!
    TouchWiz is to blame for sure. It is clearly not the hardware but software.

    I am considering installing stock Jellybean from the Developer Edition but I am worried I will miss some Samsung features.
    07-02-2013 04:59 PM
  5. ne0ne's Avatar
    Exchange it for an HTC one. It's got a premium design and doesnt lag like the gs4.

    Posted via Android Central App
    07-02-2013 05:12 PM
  6. techgeek32#WN's Avatar
    Just load a different launcher. I use Nova and have zero lag or stutters. I have a Note 2 as well. I have tested them side by side and they are equal and for some actions the S4 is faster. You need to turn off animations but other than that I have not removed anything else. You can root to get stock Android but you will lose all Samsung features. If you just replace the launcher you can still have access to all of the features. I also have 6GB worth of apps loaded on main storage as well. It is possible that you might have some rogue apps causing problems. I have 3 friends with the S4 and not one of them is laggy or slow.
    shaytoon21 likes this.
    07-05-2013 09:15 AM
  7. pappy53's Avatar
    You shouldn't have to turn off anything to make a phone smooth. The S3 is smoother than the S4, it seems. Not all S4's are laggy, but there are way too many to say that there isn't a problem. That plus minimum storage taints an otherwise good phone.

    Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using AC Forums mobile app
    07-05-2013 09:38 AM
  8. Wildo6882's Avatar
    I have a rooted S4 running CleanROM and it still has hiccups here and there. It is an otherwise awesome phone, but I shouldn't have to do this to make it work right. My DNA and Note 2 weren't even remotely close to as laggy. Once the One hits Verizon I'll be switching.
    Notsosure and MikeLip like this.
    07-06-2013 10:25 PM
  9. elinash93's Avatar
    If you have Verizon, you have a 14 day period from time of purchase to exchange your phone out for a brand new one for free, minus a $35 restocking fee. You were probably issued a bad device. Happened to my friend when we both got ours (mine was and still is fine out of the box after 2 months). He exchanged his S4 out for a new one at the store and he hasn't had any issues since.

    Sent from my Galaxy S4
    07-07-2013 05:30 AM
  10. MikeLip's Avatar
    I dug out my Razr Maxx HD today and reloaded it - I had wiped it to give it to my daughter but she didn't want it. She preferred the S3. Anyway, guess what? No lags, no stutters. The OS on this phone is pretty clean which may have something to do with it. I think I'll keep on with the HD for a bit. I do like the somewhat smaller form factor. And it's pretty
    07-08-2013 04:52 PM
  11. DraganCvetkovich's Avatar
    I was personally very enthusiastic about getting an S4 after having the whole apple line including 3, 3gs, 4, 4s and finally iPhone 5.

    I must admit I'm very disappointed with S4 .. not as a phone, as it has some nice features, (but also tons of UN-necessary options and adjustments).

    The biggest problem with S4 is:
    - Lag

    - Lag

    - Lag

    S4 is slow as a snail, especially while typing or dialing phone numbers on the keypad.

    It has some kind of annoying delay while doing the above .. most of the time I'm not sure if I pressed the key or not.

    S4 TAKES AGES TO RESPOND, and its:

    - slow
    - slow
    - slow


    It was like that out of box, without any applications or games installed.

    Luckily I still have my iPhone 5 .. and its lightning fast, comparing to S4.

    And a friendly recommendation for anyone thinking of replacing their iPhone 5 for S4:

    -Don't Do it ..
    -Don't Do it ..
    -Don't Do it ..
    07-09-2013 01:57 AM
  12. Derekweb's Avatar
    I have a stock SG4. I disabled airview, smartscreen and Google now on the first day. This thing is a monster now. Fast. Excellent battery life. I don't understand why you are having so much lag. Must be a bad phone or a misbehaving app
    07-09-2013 06:59 AM
  13. Notsosure's Avatar
    I was personally very enthusiastic about getting an S4 after having the whole apple line including 3, 3gs, 4, 4s and finally iPhone 5.

    I must admit I'm very disappointed with S4 .. not as a phone, as it has some nice features, (but also tons of UN-necessary options and adjustments).

    The biggest problem with S4 is:
    - Lag

    - Lag

    - Lag

    S4 is slow as a snail, especially while typing or dialing phone numbers on the keypad.

    It has some kind of annoying delay while doing the above .. most of the time I'm not sure if I pressed the key or not.

    S4 TAKES AGES TO RESPOND, and its:

    - slow
    - slow
    - slow


    It was like that out of box, without any applications or games installed.

    Luckily I still have my iPhone 5 .. and its lightning fast, comparing to S4.

    And a friendly recommendation for anyone thinking of replacing their iPhone 5 for S4:

    -Don't Do it ..
    -Don't Do it ..
    -Don't Do it ..
    Look at my previous posts. I've played with both. The S4 I have is much faster than an iPhone 5. There is a very high possibility that your S4 is defective if the iPhone 5 is faster. I can't deny there is a little lag or stutter here and there. But judging by peoples posts some has that experience some don't, guess its the luck of the draw when buying the phone. But you should take the phone back to get it replaced with another one. Play with it in the store to see if other S4s does the same. Don't judge and dismiss the phone after just using that one particular S4.

    Sent from my Galaxy S4
    07-09-2013 09:33 AM
  14. pappy53's Avatar
    I have a stock SG4. I disabled airview, smartscreen and Google now on the first day. This thing is a monster now. Fast. Excellent battery life. I don't understand why you are having so much lag. Must be a bad phone or a misbehaving app
    That is an issue. Why should anyone have to disable or cut off anything to make a phone work like it should? And disable Google Now? C'mon!
    07-09-2013 10:39 AM
  15. ctychick's Avatar
    That is an issue. Why should anyone have to disable or cut off anything to make a phone work like it should? And disable Google Now? C'mon!
    FWIW, Google Now is an issue with other devices as well. Had to turn it off on my Nexus 7 bc of the terrible lag it created. But I agree - should not have to swap out functionality for performance. We paid for both when we bought the phone.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
    07-09-2013 11:12 AM
  16. pappy53's Avatar
    FWIW, Google Now is an issue with other devices as well. Had to turn it off on my Nexus 7 bc of the terrible lag it created. But I agree - should not have to swap out functionality for performance. We paid for both when we bought the phone.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
    No effect on my Razr HD. Moto FTW!
    07-09-2013 11:23 AM
  17. Mellimel22's Avatar
    Not my victory either. Google now works perfectly.

    Sent from my Sprint Galaxy Victory LTE using Tapatalk 2
    07-09-2013 02:16 PM
  18. exempli_gratia's Avatar
    ... I can't deny there is a little lag or stutter here and there. But judging by peoples posts some has that experience some don't, guess its the luck of the draw when buying the phone. But you should take the phone back to get it replaced with another one. Play with it in the store to see if other S4s does the same. Don't judge and dismiss the phone after just using that one particular S4.
    I suspect some folks not seeing as much lag, may not be using the same things. Little things, like diff keyboards, live wallpapers, transparent status bars, etc.

    I suspect even more likely, some people just have different expectations of responsiveness. 1/2 second to get the launcher to pop up? Is that pretty good, or painful lag? Depends on your past experiences and expectations. I'm moving from the former to the later camp.


    Seems unlikely there'd be that broad a bifercation between the the actual phones out there, 1/2 never failing a step, and 1/2 tripping every dozen steps.
    07-09-2013 02:46 PM
  19. snookasnoo's Avatar
    There is no way your S 4 is faster than an iPhone 5 which you basically admit when you say it lags and stutters. Lag is not from a defective phone either. It's from Touchwiz primarily and carrier crapware secondarily. When you get lag even with cleanrom then it's Touchwiz. If you want anS 4 without lag then you need a rom without Touchwiz. Samsung really underestimated what people are willing to put up with. Maybe they thought all the new features that don't work would snow people but it didn't work on everyone. So you either minimize the stutter by turning off as much as possible or install a rom without TW. Your best bet is probably stock android. Then you only have to deal with cheap construction quality and a screen you can't see outside. No wonder S 4 sales are so much under expectations resulting in a big hit to Samsung stock. Samsung simply didn't do their best work here or what the are truly capable of.

    Look at my previous posts. I've played with both. The S4 I have is much faster than an iPhone 5. There is a very high possibility that your S4 is defective if the iPhone 5 is faster. I can't deny there is a little lag or stutter here and there. But judging by peoples posts some has that experience some don't, guess its the luck of the draw when buying the phone. But you should take the phone back to get it replaced with another one. Play with it in the store to see if other S4s does the same. Don't judge and dismiss the phone after just using that one particular S4.

    Sent from my Galaxy S4
    07-09-2013 03:05 PM
  20. cliberti's Avatar
    No effect on my Razr HD. Moto FTW!
    Yeah except that phone runs like ****. I had one and just recently switched to the Galaxy S4 and don't get the lag complaints. This phone flies past my HD Maxx
    07-09-2013 03:12 PM
  21. exempli_gratia's Avatar
    There is no way your S 4 is faster than an iPhone 5 which you basically admit when you say it lags and stutters.
    I'd argue Lag is not the same as Speed (I think a common conflation). I can certainly believe the S4 may be faster sorting a directory in Google Drive, or applying a filter in some photo app; but may stutter in some page zooms, or take 0.6 seconds to bring up the home screen instead of 0.1 seconds. I'm with you in finding the latter annoying, but it does not preclude the former.
    07-09-2013 03:40 PM
  22. Notsosure's Avatar
    There is no way your S 4 is faster than an iPhone 5 which you basically admit when you say it lags and stutters. Lag is not from a defective phone either. It's from Touchwiz primarily and carrier crapware secondarily. When you get lag even with cleanrom then it's Touchwiz. If you want anS 4 without lag then you need a rom without Touchwiz. Samsung really underestimated what people are willing to put up with. Maybe they thought all the new features that don't work would snow people but it didn't work on everyone. So you either minimize the stutter by turning off as much as possible or install a rom without TW. Your best bet is probably stock android. Then you only have to deal with cheap construction quality and a screen you can't see outside. No wonder S 4 sales are so much under expectations resulting in a big hit to Samsung stock. Samsung simply didn't do their best work here or what the are truly capable of.
    You know what...I don't even want to bother to try and convince you. There's no point. Go back to your iPhone 5 and enjoy.

    Sent from my Galaxy S4
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    07-09-2013 03:43 PM
  23. exempli_gratia's Avatar
    I'd argue Lag is not the same as Speed (I think a common conflation). I can certainly believe the S4 may be faster sorting a directory in Google Drive, or applying a filter in some photo app; but may stutter in some page zooms, or take 0.6 seconds to bring up the home screen instead of 0.1 seconds. I'm with you in finding the latter annoying, but it does not preclude the former.
    My expectation would be that the speed of one specific task (eg. applying a filter) is dependent on the processor speed (cpu/graphics chip), but "lag" is more signal/interrupt handling (eg. user moved finger, or another app checked memory, while the filter was being applied). That would be consistent with the S4 having a speed freak cpu, and yet occasionally stuttering same as a phone from 2 years ago.

    Some have argued Android is just plagued with this at its lowest levels. But HTC has clearly handled it quite well. Samsung can certainly do a lot better. Will they?
    07-09-2013 03:49 PM
  24. majorpayne's Avatar
    According to many on XDA the Upgrade improves the lag issue that some are seeing
    07-09-2013 04:50 PM
  25. tvouge's Avatar
    According to many on XDA the Upgrade improves the lag issue that some are seeing
    Playing with it now. Seems better, though the old version only hiccupped once in awhile for me.

    Posted via Android Central App
    07-09-2013 07:51 PM
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