1. Irisheagle's Avatar
    I'm thinking of rooting my recently acquired GS4 if for no other reason but
    to get rid of the Crapplications put on by my carrier.
    What i'm curious about is, if my carrier can refuse me service if i root
    and flash say CyanogenMod on my phone? i was thinking of getting another
    identical one just in case i Brick it. lol,

    Does anyone have any experience in this area?
    i did do a search but didn't find anything about this particular case.

    any ideas guys
    03-16-2014 07:28 PM
  2. dancing-bass's Avatar
    as far as I know they can't refuse to allow you to access their network, especially if you are paying for access (pre-paid, or post-paid billing). What they CAN refuse is any warranty or service work, or troubleshooting any issues you have with the device itself. So, in other words, they can't prevent you from using their cellular network but if anything screws up on your phone you're on your own to figure out how to fix it.

    Again, this is as far as I know. I'm not on Verizon, so read the really tiny print on your contract.
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    03-16-2014 09:02 PM
  3. dadathepanda's Avatar
    They can't refuse to replace your device if you don't tell them it was rooted. I rooted my phone and then did a warranty exchange without a problem. You may want to reflash the un-rooted rom before turning it in... And if you brick it during the root prices, then just tell them it happened while you updated to 4.3. Verizon employees aren't the smartest tools in the shed... I know from dealing with them

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    03-17-2014 01:41 PM
  4. Almeuit's Avatar
    They could technically refuse anyone to their network... But...

    No they shouldn't.. You'll be able to get service BUT they won't support the phone (help with issues) since it's rooted.

    Sent from my T-Mobile Note 3 using AC Forums.
    03-17-2014 02:45 PM
  5. Irisheagle's Avatar
    Dancing-Bass, and all others, thanks for your replies.
    Sometimes my brain has farts and checking the itty bitty print in my contract
    should have been my first thought but alas age has its faults.
    I definitely under stood the warranty part as that's a pretty basic one.
    Just wasn't sure on the service part.

    Again thanks Everyone
    and have a great week ahead.
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    03-17-2014 03:35 PM
  6. dpham00's Avatar
    They can't refuse to replace your device if you don't tell them it was rooted. I rooted my phone and then did a warranty exchange without a problem. You may want to reflash the un-rooted rom before turning it in... And if you brick it during the root prices, then just tell them it happened while you updated to 4.3. Verizon employees aren't the smartest tools in the shed... I know from dealing with them

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    Fyi, that would be fraud.

    dpham00, Android Central Moderator
    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3 via Tapatalk Pro
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    03-17-2014 04:01 PM
  7. dpham00's Avatar
    They can deny service for rooted devices but I haven't heard of them enforcing their terms of service.


    " WHAT ARE VERIZON WIRELESS' RIGHTS TO LIMIT OR END SERVICE OR END THIS AGREEMENT?
    We can, without notice, limit, suspend or end your Service or any agreement with you for any good cause, including, but not limited to:
    ...

    2) if you, any user of your device or any line of service on your account, or any account manager on your account:... (d) modify your device from its manufacturer's specifications;... "

    http://forums.androidcentral.com/e?l...token=70fYwDQs


    dpham00, Android Central Moderator
    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3 via Tapatalk Pro
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    03-17-2014 04:02 PM
  8. dancing-bass's Avatar
    They can deny service for rooted devices but I haven't heard of them enforcing their terms of service.


    " WHAT ARE VERIZON WIRELESS' RIGHTS TO LIMIT OR END SERVICE OR END THIS AGREEMENT?
    We can, without notice, limit, suspend or end your Service or any agreement with you for any good cause, including, but not limited to:
    ...

    2) if you, any user of your device or any line of service on your account, or any account manager on your account:... (d) modify your device from its manufacturer's specifications;... "

    Customer Agreement | Verizon Wireless


    dpham00, Android Central Moderator
    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3 via Tapatalk Pro
    I would imagine this would be enforced if a modified device was causing issues on the network or for other users. I'm sure they're quite happy if someone attempts to root their device and bricks it. This hypothetical user then sends it in for service (service charges, etc = money in the bank for Verizon), and then must purchase another device (even more money in the bank for Verizon). Not always true but like I said, unless the modified device in question is causing service disruptions on the network I don't think they care. They just have that in there to cover their backside.
    03-17-2014 10:44 PM
  9. total_telecom's Avatar
    I would imagine this would be enforced if a modified device was causing issues on the network or for other users. I'm sure they're quite happy if someone attempts to root their device and bricks it. This hypothetical user then sends it in for service (service charges, etc = money in the bank for Verizon), and then must purchase another device (even more money in the bank for Verizon). Not always true but like I said, unless the modified device in question is causing service disruptions on the network I don't think they care. They just have that in there to cover their backside.
    I don't think they care particularly either but they can use it to get rid of the panniers customer . The terms of services are pretty broad, just like they used to enforce the 5 GB limit on unlimited data plans . Ha ha I will state that I have witnessed throttling of my LTE connection. I have even sent packets of text data with video streams to prove it. I suppose the data issues are another discussion altogether but my concern is how data intensive our devices are going to be in the next few years . Is 10 GB really gonna be enough for a family? I can easily surpass 5 GB a month on my own
    07-08-2014 11:47 AM
  10. twister8008's Avatar
    Fyi, that would be fraud.

    dpham00, Android Central Moderator
    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3 via Tapatalk Pro
    I agree with this. A three hundred dollar charge is much better than prison. Plus, lying about it will not help your cause.
    09-14-2014 06:36 PM
  11. dpham00's Avatar
    I don't think they care particularly either but they can use it to get rid of the panniers customer . The terms of services are pretty broad, just like they used to enforce the 5 GB limit on unlimited data plans . Ha ha I will state that I have witnessed throttling of my LTE connection. I have even sent packets of text data with video streams to prove it. I suppose the data issues are another discussion altogether but my concern is how data intensive our devices are going to be in the next few years . Is 10 GB really gonna be enough for a family? I can easily surpass 5 GB a month on my own
    Verizon was sued and ordered not to enforce 5gb on their unlimited plan.

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3
    09-15-2014 09:25 AM
  12. Cuvtixo's Avatar
    Fyi, that would be fraud.

    dpham00, Android Central Moderator
    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3 via Tapatalk Pro
    This is an old thread, but as a paralegal graduate, I want to point out- that although it may be fraud with a small f, legally Fraud requires "with knowledge of its falsity and for the purpose of inducing the other person to act, and upon which the other person relies with resulting injury or damage. Verizon would have to show they were damaged (monetarily) by the root.

    If you are going to use scary words, you need to be careful how you use them.
    07-18-2017 08:48 PM

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