05-24-2014 07:33 PM
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  1. Murph5150's Avatar
    The super-awesome over-hyped Samsung S4 super-phone gives you this kind of battery life with LIGHT use. Battery is 10 months old. What if it was non-removable? I'd be (edited by Moderator) outta luck. Worn battery, buy a new one. But 6 hours on a full charge? Junk. Did I mention LIGHT usage?

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    Attached Thumbnails THIS is Why I'll Only Buy a Phone With a Removable Battery-screenshot_2014-05-22-22-50-07.jpg  
    05-22-2014 09:56 PM
  2. Almeuit's Avatar
    I do love being able to swap batteries on my Note but for my needs it wouldn't be a deal breaker if I really liked a phone that couldn't.

    Sent from my T-Mobile Note 3 using AC Forums.
    05-22-2014 10:05 PM
  3. Murph5150's Avatar
    I do love being able to swap batteries on my Note but for my needs it wouldn't be a deal breaker if I really liked a phone that couldn't.

    Sent from my T-Mobile Note 3 using AC Forums.
    Deal breaker for me for this reason. I don't overcharge, I sparingly use my car charger, and this is the result? I see a warranty exchange in my near future.

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    05-22-2014 10:15 PM
  4. zorak950's Avatar
    Yeah, you got a bum battery if it's not holding a charge after less than a year with light usage.
    05-22-2014 10:51 PM
  5. Murph5150's Avatar
    Yeah, you got a bum battery if it's not holding a charge after less than a year with light usage.
    Totally agree. I'll call Big Red tomorrow and see if a corporate store can do the exchange or have to go through the hassle of FedEx.

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    05-22-2014 10:58 PM
  6. LightaDroid's Avatar
    I think I got a bum battery is my nexus 5
    But then again I'm a heavy user and with the s4
    I never had to worry about it..


    Kinda missing the removable battery status.

    Posted from Google Nexus 5
    05-23-2014 12:35 AM
  7. Vsweety's Avatar
    The super-awesome over-hyped Samsung S4 super-phone gives you this kind of battery life with LIGHT use. Battery is 10 months old. What if it was non-removable? I'd be **** outta luck. Worn battery, buy a new one. But 6 hours on a full charge? Junk. Did I mention LIGHT usage?
    So what are you going to do when ALL phones have an embedded battery? Because that's the trend, and I wouldn't be surprised if that is the de facto situation next year.
    05-23-2014 09:43 AM
  8. Sanjay Chandra's Avatar
    I seriously think that it is problem with your phone....
    Galaxy S2 at my home which is almost 3 years old is getting such battery life....(July 2011)

    My iPod touch 4th gen gives 5 days standby with wifi connected (3.5 years old, bought for 2010 Christmas)

    Or 30 hours audio......(with push notifications for Facebook , Mail etc.)


    Sent from my iPhone 5s using Tapatalk
    05-23-2014 09:53 AM
  9. z33dev33l's Avatar
    I haven't had a removable battery in 2-3 years and haven't had a single issue.
    05-23-2014 09:54 AM
  10. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    From the screenshot, you cell signal looks kind of weak. That may be a contributing factor to the drain.
    05-23-2014 09:59 AM
  11. mchi5's Avatar
    I agree with the OP. Why I love my Note 3, not only to swap out batteries but to get an extended one like the Zerolemon if I so choose (which I did!)

    Removable battery just gives you more options, which is why we all love Android right? To be able to choose and have options?

    Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 3 via Tapatalk
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    05-23-2014 10:58 AM
  12. Almeuit's Avatar
    Deal breaker for me for this reason. I don't overcharge, I sparingly use my car charger, and this is the result? I see a warranty exchange in my near future.

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    You can't overcharge these batteries.

    Sent from my T-Mobile Note 3 using AC Forums.
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    05-23-2014 11:07 AM
  13. Almeuit's Avatar
    You know thinking about it Murph... Did you let the battery get real low all the time? That actually is bad for them and may explain your issue.

    Sent from my T-Mobile Note 3 using AC Forums.
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    05-23-2014 11:13 AM
  14. Vsweety's Avatar
    From the screenshot, you cell signal looks kind of weak. That may be a contributing factor to the drain.
    Yep. With a weak signal the device must work harder to catch it which costs energy = battery charge.
    05-23-2014 11:25 AM
  15. anon(394005)'s Avatar
    So what are you going to do when ALL phones have an embedded battery? Because that's the trend, and I wouldn't be surprised if that is the de facto situation next year.
    I'll figure out how to cross that bridge when (more so IF) it happens.

    I haven't had a removable battery in 2-3 years and haven't had a single issue.
    The point though is that if you did have an issue, it's a lot easier (and cheaper) to replace that battery yourself than it would be with a sealed/embedded one; which would require that you take the device in for service (or ship it in) or have appropriate hand tools and knowledge to attempt it yourself.
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    05-23-2014 11:28 AM
  16. JeffDenver's Avatar
    Changing embedded batteries is not too difficult in non-removable phones. It's just not something you can do casually.

    I agree removable batteries are better. But not for this reason.




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    05-23-2014 11:30 AM
  17. Almeuit's Avatar
    Changing embedded batteries is not too difficult in non-removable phones. It's just not something you can do casually.

    I agree removable batteries are better. But not for this reason.
    Usually yeah it isn't bad except for the HTC One (either one). From what I've read those can be very difficult.

    Sent from my T-Mobile Note 3 using AC Forums.
    05-23-2014 11:33 AM
  18. dpham00's Avatar
    You can't overcharge these batteries.

    Sent from my T-Mobile Note 3 using AC Forums.
    Correct, once full, it would just stop charging.


    Top graph is charging rate(ma), and bottom is battery percentage



    dpham00, Android Central Moderator
    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3
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    05-23-2014 11:36 AM
  19. anon(394005)'s Avatar
    Changing embedded batteries is not too difficult in non-removable phones. It's just not something you can do casually.

    I agree removable batteries are better. But not for this reason.


    I'd rather do this:



    Samsung Galaxy S4 Battery Replacement - iFixit
    05-23-2014 12:20 PM
  20. sparker04's Avatar
    I'm right there with you! My phone dies a couple times at least a day. It's frustrating when you cant access an outlet or a car charger. Removable batteries are definitely the way to go!! I can always carry a spare.
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    05-23-2014 12:38 PM
  21. Murph5150's Avatar
    Let me try and catch up to the myriad of responses.

    1) "Overcharging" is improper terminology. BUT, the more charging cycles a battery goes through, the battery capacity drop is commensurate.

    2) Signal strength on screen shot: According to a reception app I have, it noted my dBm was at 65% of total potential signal strength. Great? No. Bad? No way.

    3) Defective phone? Possibly. Likely? No. Here's why. That signal app I have also estimates your battery life. At 100% charge, it states I have about 18 hours of usable battery. Same app on my old Galaxy Nexus, with about 500 mAh less battery power is noted to give me an estimated battery life of 30 hours; that's 12 hours better than my S4. Considering my S4 has a larger and far newer battery, logic would make one assume the S4 will last longer off of the charger.

    Conclusion: My OS, as noted on my screen shot, seems to be in overdrive. My first guess is I have a parasitic application. I have many apps on my phone so pinpointing the malicious app would be a challenge. Or, maybe the battery is indeed in need of replacement. Unfortunately my volt meter can't test this battery so there might be some trial and error. God knows the Verizon staff lack diagnostic skills.

    I'll start with a new battery. It's the lazy initial approach, but heck, I'm lazy. If that doesn't work, I'll gather up the motivation to see if I can identify the source of draw. No argument a problem exists, it's narrowing down the possibilities.

    Hurry up, LG G3!

    Posted via Android Central App
    05-23-2014 12:57 PM
  22. Almeuit's Avatar
    Let me try and catch up to the myriad of responses.

    1) "Overcharging" is improper terminology. BUT, the more charging cycles a battery goes through, the battery capacity drop is commensurate.

    2) Signal strength on screen shot: According to a reception app I have, it noted my dBm was at 65% of total potential signal strength. Great? No. Bad? No way.

    3) Defective phone? Possibly. Likely? No. Here's why. That signal app I have also estimates your battery life. At 100% charge, it states I have about 18 hours of usable battery. Same app on my old Galaxy Nexus, with about 500 mAh less battery power is noted to give me an estimated battery life of 30 hours; that's 12 hours better than my S4. Considering my S4 has a larger and far newer battery, logic would make one assume the S4 will last longer off of the charger.

    Conclusion: My OS, as noted on my screen shot, seems to be in overdrive. My first guess is I have a parasitic application. I have many apps on my phone so pinpointing the malicious app would be a challenge. Or, maybe the battery is indeed in need of replacement. Unfortunately my volt meter can't test this battery so there might be some trial and error. God knows the Verizon staff lack diagnostic skills.

    I'll start with a new battery. It's the lazy initial approach, but heck, I'm lazy. If that doesn't work, I'll gather up the motivation to see if I can identify the source of draw. No argument a problem exists, it's narrowing down the possibilities.

    Hurry up, LG G3!

    Posted via Android Central App
    Main question... You know nothing how the G3 runs so.. I know you want it but how do you know it won't be bad or as bad as the problem you have now?

    Sent from my T-Mobile Note 3 using AC Forums.
    05-23-2014 01:09 PM
  23. Murph5150's Avatar
    Main question... You know nothing how the G3 runs so.. I know you want it but how do you know it won't be bad or as bad as the problem you have now?

    Sent from my T-Mobile Note 3 using AC Forums.
    There is always an element of uncertainty on a new product. But LG did a hell of a job with the G2. Would you agree? Consistent quality. That's what I'm looking for. And I'm willing to roll the dice on the G3. All preliminary write-ups tout this as the "Phone of 2014." So why not? My hands are washed of Samsung, HTC, specifically the Rezound, was all trouble, not a huge Moto fan, Nokia & Windows isn't my flavor, and iOS, well, I'd get edited if I described iOS. So LG it is.

    Posted via Android Central App
    05-23-2014 01:31 PM
  24. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    If you accepted an OS update, have you cleared the system cache in recovery?

    From a Slim M8 and the AC Forums app.
    05-23-2014 02:16 PM
  25. Murph5150's Avatar
    If you accepted an OS update, have you cleared the system cache in recovery?

    From a Slim M8 and the AC Forums app.
    Yes, did that among other things.

    Posted via Android Central App
    05-23-2014 05:40 PM
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