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  1. yoramsk's Avatar
    I love the phone but 300 minutes is not enough for me. I have struggled to find a guide to setting up a functional hassle free way to make calls using the data connection. I would appreciate it if someone would treat me like the ***** that I am and provide a step by step guide to making and receiving free or low cost calls on this phone. Please don't assume prior knowledge as this is my first smart phone. Thanks in advance.
    04-13-2011 06:15 PM
  2. one80oneday's Avatar
    Nettalk
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    04-13-2011 07:04 PM
  3. Eollie's Avatar
    In this thread
    http://forum.androidcentral.com/opti...p-account.html
    there is a guide posted on the first page.

    However I will post quotes and links.


    Follow this guide but don't use sipdroid: Never Run Out of Minutes Again: Make Free VoIP Calls on Android Phones - How-To Geek

    Install csipsimple instead from the market.
    Add your sipgate account to csipsimple.
    Then Settings -> Filters -> Click your sipfate account -> Add filter
    Auto Answer
    Contains
    Then write in your google voice number.

    If you use sipdroid, you'll have to answer a call every time you want to make a call.

    When you are done with the guide, log into your Sipgate account at sipgate.com, change your voicemail setting to answer after 60 seconds so that your google voicemail will pick up first. You'll also want to delete the "When I am on the phone" and "When phone is offline/unavailable." rules. Don't set those up to forward to your cellphone because they charge you mins for those forwarded calls.

    Instead, set google voice to call both sipgate and your cell phone at the same time.

    When you make calls, google callback will make your voice account call csipcimple through sipgate, and csipsimple will autoanswer and your outgoing call will start.
    When you get incoming google voice calls, they get routed to your sipgate account which csipsimple is registered to. You'll also get the phone call from google voice on your cell phone line so that if sipgate doesn't work, you'll still get your phone calls.

    Only give out your google voice number and your friends will only get calls from your google voice number.
    04-13-2011 07:06 PM
  4. Takenover83's Avatar
    There is alot of info here but some of it is outdated. Free VOIP is ever changing. As of the date of this post, you will need the following.

    A Google Voice account. (https://www.google.com/voice/signup)
    A Sipgate One account. (sipgate one)

    You will need the following apps from the Market.

    Csipsimple or sipdroid (or use the native voip if you are on a 2.3 rom. If you are on 2.2.1 then use one of the sip clients I mentioned). Both are very good. I recommend Csipsimple as it's pretty easy to use and has a sipgate profile.
    Google Voice
    gvcallback

    All these are free. If I have not scared you away. Come back after you have setup your two accounts and downloaded the apps, and I am sure me or someone else can assist you.
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    04-13-2011 07:08 PM
  5. drezliok's Avatar
    Pay fifteen more and get 1200 minutes? Your probably in the same boat as me. I don't have the 15 extra to spend. I use skype but that's wifi only. Honestly I don't think our data connection can handle voice. I know mine can't anyways. I am lucky to get 500k down and 300k up. I tried google voice but it didn't have any numbers in my area to use.



    Edit
    Shows what I know. Lol, so much info was added as I typed mine out.
    04-13-2011 07:14 PM
  6. Eollie's Avatar
    Pay fifteen more and get 1200 minutes? Your probably in the same boat as me. I don't have the 15 extra to spend. I use skype but that's wifi only. Honestly I don't think our data connection can handle voice. I know mine can't anyways. I am lucky to get 500k down and 300k up. I tried google voice but it didn't have any numbers in my area to use.



    Edit
    Shows what I know. Lol, so much info was added as I typed mine out.
    Most of the time I can make calls people just have to be patient when answering. In this day and age they expect people to always instantly say hello when the phone is answered. There is/will be a time delay when using voip. Even when calling from my pc there is a slight delay.

    I also dont have the greatest 3g connection but it works in a pinch.
    04-13-2011 07:19 PM
  7. Takenover83's Avatar
    It will save you minutes regardless. I only use my 300 when I am out and about. If I am home or somewhere with wifi, I always use VOIP. If I have a decent 3G connection, then I will use VOIP if I know the convo is going to be longer then a couple minutes.
    04-13-2011 07:22 PM
  8. zires's Avatar
    http://forum.androidcentral.com/opti...highlight=voip

    I get great reception on a strong 3g signal on on a strong wifi signal.
    04-13-2011 09:45 PM
  9. Elmdor's Avatar
    Hey Guys..

    My PBXES account was deleted so I'm trying to use sipgate and sipdroid with GVcallback.

    It worked just once, now it just hangs on waiting for GVcallback and when I go to sipgate it just says new message. I deleted my forwarding rules except for voicemails, no idea what is wrong. Any ideas?

    Update.. sipdroid says "preferred" instead of "registered" which I think it should, is that something I can fix somehow?
    04-13-2011 10:01 PM
  10. thexxoffspring's Avatar
    for some reason my minutes on sipgate are being used. i cant figure out why tho. i did everything right. even re did it twice.
    04-13-2011 10:53 PM
  11. Takenover83's Avatar
    You have to use gvcallback. Do not use the dialer in sipgate/csipsimple. Incoming calls are 100% free and cost 0 minutes. So you use google voice to setup a incoming call and connect you to your outgoing number. That's where gvcallback comes in.

    I have gvcallback setup to ask me each time I get ready to place a call if I want to use "phone or voip".
    04-13-2011 11:04 PM
  12. mmarz's Avatar
    for some reason my minutes on sipgate are being used. i cant figure out why tho. i did everything right. even re did it twice.
    Are you using google voice callback? If you call out using your sipgate account instead of using callback, it'll cost you minutes. Did you make the mistake of forwarding calls in the voicemail settings on sipgate.com? That will also cost you minutes.
    04-13-2011 11:05 PM
  13. thexxoffspring's Avatar
    Are you using google voice callback? If you call out using your sipgate account instead of using callback, it'll cost you minutes. Did you make the mistake of forwarding calls in the voicemail settings on sipgate.com? That will also cost you minutes.
    i have no voicemail settings in sipgate. i am using gvcallback. can someone explain to me the call process thats going on. like when i call my friend and gvcallback starts up what is happening?
    04-13-2011 11:13 PM
  14. thexxoffspring's Avatar
    also does it use minutes for incoming or outgoing calls? because i just did a test run using JUST my sipgate number and left it running for 5 minutes and it didnt take any minutes away
    04-13-2011 11:16 PM
  15. thexxoffspring's Avatar
    http://forum.androidcentral.com/opti...highlight=voip

    I get great reception on a strong 3g signal on on a strong wifi signal.
    im gonna try out this guide because sipgate seems to be acting weird for me

    EDIT: couldnt exactly get this to work so im pretty frustrated and im going to bed lol. ill try pbexes or something else tomorrow
    04-13-2011 11:21 PM
  16. Eollie's Avatar
    im gonna try out this guide because sipgate seems to be acting weird for me

    EDIT: couldnt exactly get this to work so im pretty frustrated and im going to bed lol. ill try pbexes or something else tomorrow
    Guys follow the guide linked in my initial post. Do exactly as it says. Be sure to set it to udp also.
    04-14-2011 12:23 AM
  17. lou61166's Avatar
    With all the hassles and BS with these free voip services i will stick to the 1200 minutes plan for 43 dollars,what would some of you do if this cheap plan was not available,or if the raise the price.
    04-14-2011 05:57 AM
  18. davidh44's Avatar
    It will save you minutes regardless. I only use my 300 when I am out and about. If I am home or somewhere with wifi, I always use VOIP. If I have a decent 3G connection, then I will use VOIP if I know the convo is going to be longer then a couple minutes.
    I hear VoIP over 3G really blows due to high jitter and latency. That it's like talking on a 2-way radio.

    What has your experience been with VoIP on the Optimus V and Virgin 3G?
    04-14-2011 06:56 AM
  19. zires's Avatar
    @davidh44,

    I find that if I have a good wireless signal my 3g is good too and it okay. Better on wifi though.

    Zires
    04-14-2011 08:08 AM
  20. yoramsk's Avatar
    Nettalk
    Thanks everybody but I couldn't get it to work. I'm going with Nettalk for now. I get free outgoing calls and that is enough for me.
    04-14-2011 12:03 PM
  21. RoboBot's Avatar
    VOIP was a real pain for me and I can understand all the confusion that is abound over the topic. I didn't understand the process until I worked through it myself.

    Here is a step by step, as clear as I can make. I've used IPKall and SIPGate, I prefer SIPGate. All IPKall and SIPGate do is to give you a free VOIP Phone number that can work with google voice. Google voice doesn't work as a free VOIP service by itself on the phone. It uses minutes, if used by itself. Why, I don't know.

    Anyway, on to the show.


    1. Sign up at SipGate.com for a SIPGate One account. This is free. (Don't worry about what number they give you. You don't use it as a contact number.)

    2. Find the SIP Credentials from your SipGate account:

    Login > Settings > SIP Credentials.

    You want the SIP-ID and SIP-Password. Write them both down, as well as your SIPGate number.

    3. Sign up for a google voice account. The number you are assigned or pick HERE is the number you will give people and call from, hence the SIPGate number not mattering much.

    4. If you run Froyo, download SIPDroid or CSipSimple, if you run Gingerbread, the SIP app is native on the phone. The apps functions as a catcher for the data calls, so that your phone rings on an incoming call (and they send out the outgoing calls). They talk with the VOIP provider (IPKall, SipGate) and go into action when the VOIP Provider says "Hey! Incoming Phone Call!"

    5. If you are using the Gingerbread native app go to:
    Settings > Call Settings > Accounts > Add Account

    Username is your SIP-ID, Password is your SIP-Password, Server is Sipgate.com

    Go back to Settings > Call Settings > Accounts and enable the Receive incoming calls box.

    6. Go to Google Voice and log in with your Google Voice account info.

    Settings > Add another phone

    Enter your SIPGate phone number.

    Verify the number (make sure your wifi or 3G on the phone is working).

    You will get a call from Google Voice, enter the 2 digits that Google Voice shows you to verify the phone.

    Congrats, you just got your first VOIP phone call.

    But, that's not all, you need to make outgoing calls too.

    7. Download Google Voice and Google Voice Callback.

    8. Open Google Voice, link it to your Google Voice account.

    Set it to make the calls whenever possible.

    9. Open Google Voice Callback, set it to make all calls when possible.

    You now should be able to make incoming and outgoing calls with Google Voice and your new SIP account.

    ======

    After that last step things turn more towards preference.

    If you have your SIPGate number checked as a number, you will receive incoming calls on your phone from people that call your Google Voice number. Basically, they call Google Voice, the call gets kicked over to your SIP number and your SIP program grabs the call and you get a ring on your phone.

    I don't like that method. I have my phone set to kill WIFI and 3G when the screen is off, so you can imagine, I would miss a lot of calls.

    Instead, I have my Virgin Mobile Cell # checked so that when people call my google voice number, I can have the option of picking up or letting them go to Google Voicemail. If I routed my calls to the SIP number, I would miss them. The SIP program only works over a data connection. My data turns off when the screen is off.

    This last part is where you can tinker. The above steps should help you get the VOIP account set up in the first place. Getting the blocks together in a functional way was the hard part for me. Once that happens, it all becomes a lot more clear.

    Play around a bit and don't give up. It does work, I swear.

    And good luck!
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    04-14-2011 04:01 PM
  22. scootincivic's Avatar
    Ive got one for you all..
    I'm running stock+x on my V..
    Everything is setup as stated from countless users here..
    I can make calls as well as receive them with no min. being used on my cell or from Sipgate..

    Heres the kicker..
    Either when a call is made or sent my phone goes into 'VIB-SILENT' mode..
    However I can still here my ringtone if a call is sent to my handset..
    I have hit the power button to turn off Vib mode and turned the sound on however no audio is being heard from my headset from another caller..
    Hmmmm~

    Another issue (as Ive seen stated elsewhere) is that Im also not able to here voice from the other caller however they can here me just fine..
    I have hit the 'menu' key to change the audio for mic as well as speaker to max with in GV..
    Yet Im still not able to hear audio from the other phone..

    Yet the last issue is if a call is made to my handset the call keeps ringing even though it shows that I picked it up through my handset..
    Ive played with all the settings through GV,CallBack & Csipsimple..
    I have even looked at the 'Expert' settings with in Csipsimple and all seems as it should be..

    Just open to ideas on how to resolve this issue as I for one would use this service for legit reason as I do not have cell coverage in my area and this would help a great deal if I can get it to work right..
    04-14-2011 05:27 PM
  23. theblastizard's Avatar
    How well does this work and is there anything similiar for SMS messages? I was thinking of switching over to VM and I get decent coverage at College but when I go home for the summer I live in an area with no Sprint/VM Coverage for a few months and I don't want to miss any calls/texts while I'm there.
    04-14-2011 05:28 PM
  24. NOMster's Avatar
    Will you have wifi?
    04-14-2011 05:30 PM
  25. theblastizard's Avatar
    I'll have wifi. That's why I was asking.
    04-14-2011 05:36 PM
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