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    I am unclear what you did. Did u uncheck them all or leave the one on at bottom?
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    The map setting?

    Google Maps - Settings - Location Settings



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    Quote Originally Posted by sonicresidue View Post
    Have we figured out what the map setting in questions actually does? I've noticed my battery life has been better the last couple cycles, but it seems to have decreased just a bit after booting up with a full charge this morning. Usually "Screen" is shown in the battery app as using the most battery power, however, currently it shows Maps as using 28%, which is odd because I havent used Maps at all during this cycle. I have used apps which use location services. Not sure if it is the same thing.
    The second setting "report from this device" is for people with multiple android devices and using Latitude with the same Google account. I have a Nexus 10 that sits at home and a Nexus 4. I don't want the Nexus 10 reporting my location to Latitude, so I have the unchecked on the Nexus 10. I do have it checked on the Nexus 4 however, so my location is reported with the Nexus 4. If I left the box checked on both my tablet and phone, my phone would update one location and then my table, sitting at home, would report my home location, which would be incorrect.

    The option above it, is how you want you location acquired for Latitude. You can either have the phone get your location automatically, you can set it manually or disable Latitude altogether.
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    I noticed that if I have WiFi on, I get much better battery life than if I use mostly mobile data. I'm on AT&T and it never drops down to 3G to save battery when it's not actively using data. Could that be a factor? Did anyone else notice that the "Awake" bar in the Battery graph is hardly ever used even though the Screen On bar is on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parth Ghetia View Post
    I noticed that if I have WiFi on, I get much better battery life than if I use mostly mobile data. I'm on AT&T and it never drops down to 3G to save battery when it's not actively using data. Could that be a factor? Did anyone else notice that the "Awake" bar in the Battery graph is hardly ever used even though the Screen On bar is on?
    Yup, using Wifi whenever possible saves you more battery than just using mobile data all the time. BUT, only turn Wifi on if you know theres a connection around, otherwise the phone will just keep searching which drains your battery. Whenever your phone has to search for data in general drains your battery as well. Thats why I noticed that when I was at work in a building where I had weak signals, my battery would plummet. When I started taking advantage of the Wifi none of the assholes there gave me the password to until recently, I just cut it on when I clock in and im good to go battery wise for the whole shift. Alternating between mobile data in good areas and wifi when its available and/or there is poor connection is one of the best ways to keep your battery alive longer.

    I did try to OPs suggestion of turning off that option in location settings so we'll see if that helps me out a bit. I get about 10-12hrs average anyway which isn't too bad for me but i'd love to see it go to 16hrs+ which is my main goal. They say everyone on average gets (or should get) 8hrs sleep right? So theoretically, your awake for about 16hrs at a time. I need my phone to last at least those 16hrs and beyond. Its as simple as that.
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    I've been noticing Maps is consuming about 1/4 of my battery power even though I'm not using maps at all. Any ideas?

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    That also seems awfully high for quickoffice.
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    Yeah. I have a spreadsheet I downloaded from my email and opened it a couple times. I think that may be because it stayed in the background.

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    I've come to report that ever since I did what the OP did and thats unchecking that box, I have received worse battery life. I'm on 30% right now after 8hrs, which before I did this would be about 10hrs at by the time I hit 30%.

    For some reason, Facebook was EATING my battery, accounting for 50% of the drain because for some reason it was accessing my GPS all day despite the GPS being off. I uninstalled FB then reinstalled, no problems, but its still draining. I looked at the battery stats and it said GPS has been awake pretty much all day despite my GPS button being off. Don't know the reason for this but the battery life got far far worse for me so im just going to leave that option checked again because it didn't help.

    I'll put it back on and see if the problem persist tomorrow and report back.
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    I'm averaging 11hrs when my battery gets to 7% remaining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peejay1977 View Post
    Ok, thought I'd start a new thread on this, not for people to complain about battery life but to discuss maturely the possible causes of battery drains. I'm no Android expert, in fact the Nexus 4 is my first Android phone (previously Blackberries and iPhones), but I am in the world of IT so I like to think at least I have a logical mindset for this sort of thing.

    First off, I'm of the opinion (until I'm proved otherwise) that with the exception of a few defective units which is inevitable, that the majority of the battery issues are software not hardware related. I've had battery drain issues on the iPhone and Blackberry in the past and it's always been down to software issues.

    One observation I have made, is that alot of people seem to be comparing the Nexus to iPhones stating things such as "My iPhone never drained this bad, what a farce Google, sort it out" and similar. I like to liken Android vs iOS in the same way as I do Linux vs Windows.

    I work in Windows Server infrastructure support and although Windows is configurable to a degree my brief look into Linux shows the power of what can be done, if you know how. Much more freedom available, but with that comes more chance of issues creeping in.

    This is what drew me to Android, as much as I loved my iPhone (and still do) as a self confessed nerd I dislike being prevented from having choice, such as my default browser, but while this annoys me it's also worth noting that iOS is specific OS for specific hardware, which means the chances of issues is "probably" much less than with a more open source OS.

    With the options Android gives app developers its no wonder that sometimes the combination of all these apps, all asking for a slice of the pie (so to speak) causes issues with conflicting processes or battery drains.

    I got my Nexus, immediately performed the OTA 4.2.1 update, unlocked the bootloader and rooted it, then proceeded to pile on a lorry load of apps which I used to run on my iPhone, then plonked Nova launcher over the top. It then became apparent just how many settings each app had, which weren't being restricted and vetted by the underlying OS.

    My battery life was awful, even with NFC off, auto brightness, WIFI off and Google syncing off I was down to 30% left within 8 hours and VERY minimal use. My initial reaction was to complain and write off the phone as a bad device (especially with the hassles of ordering it) but then the geek in me cut in and I started to monitor the usage. First thing I noticed was how long the phone was being "Held awake" and also how high the Maps usage was. It wasn't super high (sub 10%) but it seemed high considering I hadn't been using anything that required location services other than Facebook and Google+. I even turned off all the Google Now stuff so it wasn't constantly looking for my location to offer up helpful cards.

    I decided it would be a good idea, and this was my IT head coming into play, to do what I would do with a badly running laptop or server, reinstall everything. So I downloaded the full 4.2.1 image from Google and using Defmouze's instructions for ADB, wiped and reflashed the phone.

    I then signed back into my Google account and sync'd everything back and proceeded to install the apps I needed most, after installing each I made sure if they had any auto update settings they were either set to minimal or turned off completely. I then noticed in the Maps application this setting :



    The 2 options at the top puzzled me as they both seemed to mean the same thing, just worded differently. I left the top option as it was but turned off the bottom one, apps can still locate me and my location is still working in the Maps app itself so not sure exactly what "stuff" needed this to work, I had a weather app which was updating my location every 6 hours fine so maybe it's uploading to Google? Who knows.

    Since the reflash and this app setting I am getting 16-18 hours out of the phone, with approx 3-4 hours of screen time, which for a quad core phone with a sizeable screen I think is perfectly acceptable.

    Not sure if there is an underlying point to this thread but it seems to me people are giving up very easilly on the phone and writing it off as a bad device instead of actually taking a look at the underlying root cause. If you have everything turned on and constantly communicating then you are going to dent battery life.

    Comparing it to other phones, especially ones with modded versions of Android (Samsung or HTC for instance) is unfair as this is both a vanilla OS and also, it's new.

    Give it a chance folks, if you want a phone you can install apps willy nilly and be safe in the knowledge that the OS will prevent them from draining the battery, get an iOS device.
    you were that slow in finding out about those features on maps and turning them off? i've turned off everything i've seen or can think off, and brightness at 15% and i'm getting 6-7 hours max with like 2 hours screen time. i've checked for services running and apps and force stop them all to no avail
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    Quote Originally Posted by jinjin12 View Post
    you were that slow in finding out about those features on maps and turning them off? i've turned off everything i've seen or can think off, and brightness at 15% and i'm getting 6-7 hours max with like 2 hours screen time. i've checked for services running and apps and force stop them all to no avail
    have you tried to download GSAM battery monitor or better battery?
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    Just another anecdote, 8 hour 20 min hike in airplane mode with google my tracks plotting my course, and about 10 minutes on photospheres took 40% of the battery.

    Pleasantly surprised, thought it would've been a much heavier draw on the battery with the gps usage.
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    I'll take that...





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    My first full day today with my new N4. Came from a Samsung Galaxy S2. Hoping it is better than that phone. Will let you know.

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    And one more gloat before she dies on me.

    Still think the battery is impossibly bad?





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    Okay first full day with My new N4 phone. I came from a Galaxy S2 which was marginal in battery but had the replaceable battery which did help in a pinch.

    Here's my comments so far.

    I have had no issues with the phone when it is idle. Many people have complained of the phone sucking down battery while the screen is off at night etc. I let it sit for most of the day at work and it used almost no battery (Maybe 3% all day. My GS2 would suck down 20% or more just sitting unless I turned off all settings. I left on WiFi, data, Bluetooth and sync (GPS off) and after 10 hours I have 70% left. I am actually quite shocked as I played with it a fair bit and have had 1.5 hours of on screen time. This is certainly going to be enough to make it through the day, and I am hoping that I get even more when the battery settles.

    But, what i have noticed is that when I used the phone it certainly sucks down the battery. Maybe even faster than my GS2, but I will still need to play with it more to determine where I am at the end of the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peejay1977 View Post
    I think there will be another OTA release soon, the camera software is in need of a tweak, the flash is way too powerful and the white balance detection indoors is shocking, but I'm confident it's again software not hardware, it'll come in time
    Yep I've found this too.

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    Google seemed to put a good bit of effort into Project Butter, I hope next they turn their attention to battery life.

    I don't think it seems unrealistic to expect better battery in the next OS or at least the next update. Especially bothersome is hearing (some) reviewers talk about phones with a smaller capacity battery having better battery life.

    Just my thoughts!
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    I'm dropping about 10% of battery for every 30min of screen on time. Seems excessive to me or is that normal??
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    I'm dropping about 10% of battery for every 30min of screen on time. Seems excessive to me or is that normal??
    5 hours of on screen time would be extraordinary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VertigoM View Post
    I'm dropping about 10% of battery for every 30min of screen on time. Seems excessive to me or is that normal??
    Not sure if you came from a smart phone or not, but if you can get 4-5 hours of on screen time you should make it through a full day. There are always exceptions, but this is what I've been trying to set as a goal and so far it's been great.

    The other thing you may notice is the battery drains a bit faster at first. After it hits 85% or so it tends to settle for me.

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    I posted this in a separate thread but I think it goes here. The play store was destroying my battery as you can see in the picture. I did a factory reset and so far the play store hasn't been draining the battery but I'm only 36 hours after the reset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badbrad17 View Post
    Not sure if you came from a smart phone or not, but if you can get 4-5 hours of on screen time you should make it through a full day. There are always exceptions, but this is what I've been trying to set as a goal and so far it's been great.

    The other thing you may notice is the battery drains a bit faster at first. After it hits 85% or so it tends to settle for me.

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    Good points. I guess 4-5 hrs of screen time isn't too bad after all. And you're right about the battery dropping fast at first then settling down after the initial 10-20%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VertigoM View Post
    Good points. I guess 4-5 hrs of screen time isn't too bad after all. And you're right about the battery dropping fast at first then settling down after the initial 10-20%.
    Bad?! Take a screen shot when you hit 4hrs+, I don't think I believe the device can come close to it. I'm not arguing with you or anything, but 3hrs is solid as far as on screen times go; anything over 3 is just gravy.
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    It's possible

    The so called Nexus 4 battery woes-uploadfromtaptalk1356310639381.jpg

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