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I'm still getting this Unsafe volume warning/nanny-nag. I first saw this issue posted on these forums in 2012, and STILL Google IGNORES their users! And for me this is not because of an old OS or proprietary phone software because this is a Nexus 5! I'm not interested in modding my phone, a factor in why I chose a Nexus. And as for "safety" - it is still confusing when I plug it in the car and expect it to work, whether it is the car stereo source or some problem with the stereo or the fact that Android has locked my volume down again - the safety issue for me is will this cause an accident!? I'm surprised Google isn't facing any lawsuits for something along these lines. I find the prospect of a driverless car produced by this company extremely disturbing. And I find this annoying piece of unusabilty increasingly frustrating and infuriating.

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I had that once when I had my original Evo on android 2.3.x It was one time I dismissed it, and haven't seen it since

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Me too. It's all about Health & Safety nowadays. But Google and others will be aware of the extended use of earphones by some users so will feel it's their duty to show warnings.

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Surely once we have had the warning we should be able to make it go away for good. Not crediting us with intelligence is one thing, but failing to acknowledge our basic human faculties like memory is taking things too far

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I agree but they have to allow for people who have learning difficulties...or indeed bad memories. It's how things are now. You can get bottles of milk which, to comply with food allergy regulations, say on the bottle, 'May contain milk'.

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It is an annoyance indeed and I don't understand why the OPTION to disable the nanny-nag is not present. ...but, its just an annoyance, that is all.

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Yes, it gets to be more than just an annoyance to me though. Especially if I want to listen to music in the car. I'm no UI expert but I would have thought something like a checkbox would do the trick

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I'm still getting this Unsafe volume warning/nanny-nag. I first saw this issue posted on these forums in 2012, and STILL Google IGNORES their users! And for me this is not because of an old OS or proprietary phone software because this is a Nexus 5! ... I'm surprised Google isn't facing any lawsuits for something along these lines. .... Shame on you Google-Android.

Ok, let's stay on the ground with this.
I am not a fanboy of Google or somesuch, but I need to defend them here. AFAIK, in most EU countries, the warning is law. People, especially kids get more and more deaf and the reason seems to be nailed to the volume with which they are listening to music. More and more doctors are crying out alarms and the treatments are starting to put alot of stress to the insurance companies (most of them in EU are public, so the costs are paid by the citizens).
Hence the law. I guess we can be happy, that they don't limit the volume directly, but just warn you.

So let's stop nagging about the nagging and accept the fact, that personal conveniance has to be overruled by public safety.
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Thank you Buddy1969 for your calm, level-headed and conciliatory contribution to this discussion. Of course I totally agree with your statement about the dangers of earphone volume with these devices. However I suggest that the law can be complied with surely, while allowing the user to turn off this feature if they wish. There could even be a legal disclaimer associated with turning it off, which I wouldn't mind, as long as the user is at least given that choice. All I suggest is this solution offered by Google is not the only one, by any means, when considered with a small amount of creativity and openness, and I would like to think Google would take its users' comments in this regard into consideration, and apply such creativity and open thought to the problem.

And I disagree that the solution offered by Google is a mere "inconvenience" as you say, and I would add that the nature of this "solution" is in itself in fact dangerous. Perhaps you are not a regular user of your device as an audio input in the car stereo, but as such a user I can say that the difficulty and potential hazard here is beyond "inconvenience". In order to have an audible volume over my stereo (when it is set at a reasonable volume) the volume on the device must be full. If played at the recommended level for earphones, the stereo volume must be set so high that when switching to another input such as radio or CD it could potentially blow the speakers or cause a major distraction to the driver. And the fact that it is inaudible when the amplifier is set to an acceptable volume means one can plug it in and drive off expecting something to play, and then, when there iis no sound, be distracted by the fact that the volume on the device is not increasing as expected. Such distractions are the cause of road accidents and must not be underrated.

Therefore there needs to be a better solution as the current one is potentially just as dangerous as the "problem" it is trying to solve.
 
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Ok, let's stay on the ground with this.
I am not a fanboy of Google or somesuch, but I need to defend them here. AFAIK, in most EU countries, the warning is law. People, especially kids get more and more deaf and the reason seems to be nailed to the volume with which they are listening to music. More and more doctors are crying out alarms and the treatments are starting to put alot of stress to the insurance companies (most of them in EU are public, so the costs are paid by the citizens).
Hence the law. I guess we can be happy, that they don't limit the volume directly, but just warn you.

So let's stop nagging about the nagging and accept the fact, that personal conveniance has to be overruled by public safety.
ok?

Well, at least in the EU this nanny nag may be catalyzed by law...but those of us blessed not to live in the EU...why must we suffer as well?

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I live in the US and the last time I had that warning was 3 phones, 4 years ago. Maybe it's an EU thing

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That's weird. Could it be because of the headphone jack? I use Bluetooth in my car, and I have Bluetooth headphones when I exercise, I never see that warning.

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