I'm with you, the HTC 10 is a good phone. Too bad in my area it is not in stock for any carrier store or Best Buy. They are pretty much order only. It's sad what's happened to HTC in the US.What's the issue with htc ?
I came from the htc 10 to the note. I prefer the 10. Was faster and smoother for me. Phone felt rock solid too. One of my favourite phones I ever used. I sold it after finally settling to stick it out with the note and with the anticipation that I'll be getting the pixel/nexus anyways so didn't want to have a similar device from the 10 to the pixel.
I'm contemplating buying back my HTC 10 at this point from the guy I sold it to and return my note, but there are definitely certain things I like about the note that is making it hard for me to determine.. screen is stunning , really like the edge, power saving mode is awesome, camera is a little better and I really enjoy the Samsung internet browser.
Of the two I'd go with the Z Force for only two reasons. 1. Much better battery life. 2. HTC has an issue with overheating chargers because of their mishandling of their USB C implementation with QuickCharge. That is another phone that is unfortunately dangerous.
The HTC 10 has no issues whatsoever with charging.
The HTC has a problem with how the implemented QuickCharge 3.0 on their device. Using a charger other than the stock charger has the capability to cause the device to overheat, which they knew about - because they added a software warning to the user stating that it is overheating and a software switch to turn off charging, but despite their knowledge of it, vbus hot chargers and those that supply higher wattage than expected continue supplying power because of the poor implementation. This means the phone can overheat and continuing drawing a charge despite the fact that it is overheating, which can have obvious consequences, such as damage to the device, the things that it is in contact with and if those things are flammable, it can cause fires, which have their own set of consequences. The HTC 10 is perfectly safe (apparently) if you only use the stock charger or cables and wall chargers that are specifically set up to handle QuickCharge 2.0 and 3.0.
So this ^^ not so much
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The only safe way to use the HTC 10 is to use the stock charger or any other QC 2.0 or 3.0 certified charger; using it with non QC chargers is not only not recommended, but is dangerous because despite HTC's knowledge of the error, they never actually solved the problem and shipped the devices instead. The "knowledge" part is inferred by the software that they coded to display a warning on the screen, but I can't think of another explanation that would cause them to code that warning on a device that happens to overheat when using USB C chargers that are safe on devices that adhere to the USB C standards.
I don't think this is necessarily making an excuse not to buy one product over another. It just boils down to the fact that there have been more sentinel issues with USB-C. In the past, USB users could get by with buying pretty much any cable and now there are more and more reports of devices malfunctioning due to aftermarket cables not carrying to correct current. For this reason I pay attention to Benson Leung's blogs. I believe that manufacturers like HTC, for example, simply didn't anticipate this problem and from a consumer [non-techie] POV, it seems perfectly reasonable to pick up any USB-C cable. Not something I would do or recommend but the average consumer doesn't have time to think of such things.Always use certified chargers. What is the problem with that? Why would you want to use a cheap charger of unknown quality with your smartphone? You are making up an issue where there is none.
The market is full of certified QC 3.0 chargers. If you want an excuse for not getting an HTC 10, then I understand.
Not cheap chargers; the issue was discovered with a Pixel charger. Cheap ones would potentially also have the issue, but this was official charger from Google that is designed for the same standards HTC was supposed to be supporting. It's hardly an invented issue when the main selling point of USB type C is universality and a person plugs their existing charger into a device that has no overt warnings despite HTC being clearly aware of the issue.Always use certified chargers. What is the problem with that? Why would you want to use a cheap charger of unknown quality with your smartphone? You are making up an issue where there is none.
The market is full of certified QC 3.0 chargers. If you want an excuse for not getting an HTC 10, then I understand.
Because it's not practical for people like me who use multiple phones a year. Given your logic, I would have to buy an extra Samsung Note 7 charger for my current phone and then [let's say I switched to LG later] and then then stop using it with the next phone from a different manufacturer. Why can't I use a well-researched QC charger and cable from Anker, which is usually cheaper and use it across the board? I don't think I've ever used the exact charger I got the phone with all the time and don't think the average consumer has time to do the research any of us have done on these matters.Still, I don't see the issue here. Always stick with the official chargers and you are good. This should apply for all smartphones.
What phone is there to go to?
I am staying with the Note 7. Samsung is doing the honorable thing with the recall & T mobile will leet me wait till they get the new stock in... then I will swap.
My work stuff is in KNOX and is easily backed up & personal stuff is pretty easy too.
Seriously, what other device is out there that is comparable?
Stylus
Water resistance
Wireless charging
Memory expansion
Speed
Screen vibrancy
Camera performance
Nothing else is even close.
Definitely swapping for a new note 7
There's no other phone that's even close to this imo
I totally agree yeah it's a set back but it's getting resolved with brand newPeople are really leaving the Note because of this? You are getting a brand new Note 7, not refurbished, what more can you ask for. It's the best phone out right now.
The Qualcomm chargers should work with the HTC 10.Because it's not practical for people like me who use multiple phones a year. Given your logic, I would have to buy an extra Samsung Note 7 charger for my current phone and then [let's say I switched to LG later] and then then stop using it with the next phone from a different manufacturer. Why can't I use a well-researched QC charger and cable from Anker, which is usually cheaper and use it across the board? I don't think I've ever used the exact charger I got the phone with all the time and don't think the average consumer has time to do the research any of us have done on these matters.