erwaso
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Their ALL thieves...PERIOD, but it doesn't stop me from buying their products....SMILE
Yep, we all know about them, we just don't care.
Their ALL thieves...PERIOD, but it doesn't stop me from buying their products....SMILE
Yep, we all know about them, we just don't care.
Apple was in the news awhile ago for huge labor violations from their supplier... That's not bad?
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SUPPLIER
Not the company
Their ALL thieves...PERIOD, but it doesn't stop me from buying their products....SMILE
SUPPLIER
Not the company
Supplier that they choose to use and even visit and swear to make it better... So how is it not their fault? :what:.
They know what they do and they use them for cheap labor.. Yeah that isn't bad since it isn't directly them right?.. I don't agree.
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When you say supplier, you are saying something like a supermarket buying produce and goods from various suppliers. Foxconn isn't an ordinary supplier. They manufacture iPhones strictly according to Apple's spec. Apple itself doesn't manufacture anything on the iPhone. And even Apple itself said that ''Apple is committed to the highest standards of social responsibility across our worldwide supply chain."
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-happened-after-the-foxconn-suicides/
http://www.cnet.com/news/riots-suicides-and-other-issues-in-foxconns-iphone-factories/
dpham00, Android Central Moderator
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To the point, the manufacturing cost of the iPhone 5S is $8. Total BOM is around $200. Apple has been squeezing Foxconn. Foxconn's operating margin decreased from 3.7% in 2007to 1.5% in 2012. At the same time, Apple's operating margin rose from 18.7% in 2007 to 39.3% in 2012. So basically Foxconn is getting a measly $8 per iPhone made. Increasing that a few bucks would reduce Apple's profit, but would still allow them to be one of the most profitable companies in the world. And Apple has the power to force Foxconn to increase the salary if they wanted to.
Now, to the OP, I am not saying that other companies don't do the same, just that don't say that Apple is innocent in all this, they aren't. They know what is going on and choose to do the very minimum amount to rectify the situation.
dpham00, Android Central Moderator
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That's real bad. Those reports on Foxconn are nearly 1 and 2 years old but it's unlikely things have improved much.
The clothing trade was a benchmark for bad conditions, still is, but this Foxconn is a whole different situation though. I had known of them but didn't know it was like this.
It's bringing slave like labour, deprivation and demeaning cruelty in to the digital age. Foxconn supply more than Apple of course, but Apple's behaviour is truly shameful. It's easy for them to hide behind the Chinese authorities.
There is a huge financial margin to make things so much better for workers, if the Chinese could be trusted.
Is $8 really the bare bones cost of an iPhone? $200 BOM means boxed, delivered?
There is an argument for taking phone manufacturing out of China while they remain unaccountable, if we all stop chasing better technology every year and petition Apple until they lower their margin considerably. Samsung at least are trying to appeal to several different customers.
It seems to be a roller-coaster that can't stop.
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The Great Smartphone War: Apple vs. Samsung | Vanity Fair
This article sheds light on samsung and their business practices.
I read the whole Vanity Fair article and it had much more the tone of a hit piece than investigative journalism. How do you write about the Galaxy S series without mentioning the word "Android" once? How do you write about the Apple vs. Samsung trial without mentioning validity of the patents in question and prior art? There could be a great piece of writing about Samsung's questionable corporate practices and ethics, but this was not it, and it is a disservice to the non-tech savvy readers to publish this.
To be honest I'm just more sick of hypocrisy when I hear people say I won't buy Apple products because they are a patent troll, but no business is clean obviously, World vision shows that.
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To be honest I'm just more sick of hypocrisy when I hear people say I won't buy Apple products because they are a patent troll, but no business is clean obviously, World vision shows that.
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True but it goes both ways .. You tried to make them sound like they were super clean yet we all know they chose that supplier for cheap labor and the CEO has even visited to say they need to make it better for employees. So they fully are aware of what goes on.
Like I said in my first post... Majority of the big companies do something shady or skeptical...
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