- Hi, though not specifically about Android, I would really appreciate some help here: I am now using a Verizon Pixel and loving it. I have installed and use exclusively Verizon's messaging app. I have it installed also on my PC and my iPad and it wonderfully works across all of them and 99% of the time they all sync up. But I am confused about the differentiation between sms and messaging apps? Is it possible for someone(s) to explain why for instance more people do not use the Verizon app? Is there something I am missing regarding text messages(is that the same as an sms?). All my friends that have iphones or android phones seem to get my messages quickly. The Verizon messages seems to work over wifi as well as the mobile connection if necessary. I came to this question because I was looking at Allo but people were stating that it does not do sms and I realized that I do not understand what sms is compared to what Allo does. Then I thought, wait, perhaps Verizon messages is not sms also? And if not, does it matter? So the whole sms/IM/messaging thing is confusing to me. Thanks in advance.11-10-2016 08:00 AMLike 0
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SMS is a particular protocol (see https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc5724.txt ) and the specifications in that document have to be met for the message to be SMS. (If it's not, some SMS apps will ignore it, some will display it incorrectly, etc.)
iMessage, the system Apple uses, is another "messaging service", but it's not SMS. (It can send pretty standard SMS messages if you tell it to send SMS to a particular number at least once [at least, as of November 2016] - but the default protocol is a proprietary one and non-Apple phones either get nothing or they get something that looks nothing like a message. (And the recent "my messages are all coming out in Chinese text" complaints could be part of that - but without being able to see the specs of the protocol, who knows?)
Is it possible for someone(s) to explain why for instance more people do not use the Verizon app?
Is there something I am missing regarding text messages(is that the same as an sms?).
All my friends that have iphones or android phones seem to get my messages quickly.
The Verizon messages seems to work over wifi as well as the mobile connection if necessary.
I came to this question because I was looking at Allo but people were stating that it does not do sms
and I realized that I do not understand what sms is compared to what Allo does.
You can come up with a dozen different protocols to do the same thing - but they're not "interoperable" - one can't receive, or usually even detect, messages from another.
Then I thought, wait, perhaps Verizon messages is not sms also?
And if not, does it matter? -
SMS is a particular protocol (see https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc5724.txt ) and the specifications in that document have to be met for the message to be SMS. (If it's not, some SMS apps will ignore it, some will display it incorrectly, etc.)
iMessage, the system Apple uses, is another "messaging service", but it's not SMS. (It can send pretty standard SMS messages if you tell it to send SMS to a particular number at least once [at least, as of November 2016] - but the default protocol is a proprietary one and non-Apple phones either get nothing or they get something that looks nothing like a message. (And the recent "my messages are all coming out in Chinese text" complaints could be part of that - but without being able to see the specs of the protocol, who knows?)
Is it possible for someone(s) to explain why for instance more people do not use the Verizon app?
Is there something I am missing regarding text messages(is that the same as an sms?).
All my friends that have iphones or android phones seem to get my messages quickly.
The Verizon messages seems to work over wifi as well as the mobile connection if necessary.
I came to this question because I was looking at Allo but people were stating that it does not do sms
and I realized that I do not understand what sms is compared to what Allo does.
You can come up with a dozen different protocols to do the same thing - but they're not "interoperable" - one can't receive, or usually even detect, messages from another.
Then I thought, wait, perhaps Verizon messages is not sms also?
And if not, does it matter?anon(632115) and Jerry Hildenbrand like this.11-10-2016 03:35 PMLike 2
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