Well, I just picked one up on the t-mobile promo with a 9/17 manufacture date. The date is on the sticker behind the battery, with the serial number. Didn't plan on it, my V10 died. Didn't want to try and do without a phone for however long it takes for lg to fix it, too many days with several hours of conference calls. Liked the look of the v30, but can't swallow the $800 asking price. Particularly when t-mobile is selling the v20 for $385,with a tablet bonus (which is a nice unit in its own right ) also prefer the versatility of the replaceable battery and the availability of the high capacity battery/case back. Only regret is the extra bands and newer chipset network capabilities that the v30 has, but both are theoretical advantages right now.