1. kingstu's Avatar
    After reading many Moto Z2 Force reviews online I was disappointed. Many of them were negative but that wasn’t what made me disappointed. What made me disappointed was the lack of diversity among those tasked with writing reviews and their lack of inquisitiveness.

    I couldn't find an online review written by a female. I’m sure women buy smartphones as often as men do. There was also not much diversity in age. I'm sure that smartphones are used by people of all ages. The narrow perspective is disappointing.

    Many of them complained about things they didn't like but didn't inquire about why a decision was made. I'm glad some of them asked those questions but I wish more of them did. Maybe the company will just give marketing spin as an answer but at least it gives more insight.

    For example, many of them complained about the lack of a headphone jack. They realized that the Moto Z2 Play includes a headphone jack and is just a hair thinner than the Z2 Force. Perhaps Motorola opted not to include it because they think wireless audio or digital output is the direction of the industry. Perhaps they wanted to use that space for some other component in the screen. All they had to do was ask...

    Another thing I found puzzling was how some of them viewed Moto Mods. It’s okay if the reviewers think the current mods are too expensive or the mods are not useful for them. But the Z series phones were designed with mods in mind. That is why they have keep the same shape, have the exposed connector pins and why the camera is raised. If they take some time to understand the "Moto Mod" platform and understand it at a basic level they are really not able to give a thoughtful review.

    I hope in the future there will be a more diverse set of reviewers and more inquiring of why product design decisions were made. Then there will be different use cases and viewpoints presented that can give the readers more insight when determining which phone to buy.
    benjamminh and ecr80 like this.
    08-04-2017 02:19 PM
  2. Gdwheel's Avatar
    The primary issue that led to the negative reviews was the retail price. If the phone was $650 or less, the reviews probably would have had a different conclusion, more similar to the reviews of the Z2 Play. From those reviews, the Z2 Force seems to be a decent phone, but at $720 (or higher -- $810 at AT&T), it does not make enough sense. If a person likes Moto and/or likes the idea of the mods and the cost is not an issue it seems like a good phone. If they do not sell like Moto would like and the price comes down, the Z2 Force may be one of the better phones at its price point. The standard battery life, although it seemed better than expected by the reviewers, and the camera will be its weakest points.

    I will try it out when released. Hopefully, Moto/Lenovo will provide regular updates, although their track record has not been good.
    08-04-2017 03:32 PM
  3. David Martrano's Avatar
    Why did they downsize the battery!
    08-04-2017 07:23 PM
  4. Ry's Avatar
    Why did they downsize the battery!
    To sell more battery mods.
    mhettrich likes this.
    08-04-2017 08:43 PM
  5. kingstu's Avatar
    To make it thinner. if someone wants to add more battery they can but battery life is supposed to allow most users a full day. Not everyone wants a thick heavy phone. Some people wouldn't mind a 5000mAh internal battery on a flagship but perhaps there's a reason why most manufacturers aren't doing that.

    Most people go into a store to try a phone and they pick it up and feel it. Size, weight, texture, appearance is what they notice and I guess bricks don't sell so well.
    08-04-2017 09:14 PM
  6. David Martrano's Avatar
    I really wanted this phone. Then they downgraded the battery 2730mamp. The shattershield can be scratched with fingernail. They dropped the price to 720.00. So if you purchase the battery it's over 800.00. As much as I wanted this phone I guess I'll take a pass!
    codeda likes this.
    08-06-2017 03:15 PM
  7. Photo_Drew's Avatar
    I have a Z for a work phone and a Z Force for a personal phone. I like using the Z for the lightness. I like my Force for the battery. If I didn't need the memory I'd be happy to stay with the current Force. That being said, bringing it to all carriers it makes sense to have most of the best of both worlds. It would be nice to have at least 3000mAh. Turbo charger and battery mod, I can get by.
    08-06-2017 09:48 PM
  8. dmbrown81's Avatar
    I don't understand the negativity as well. Most of the reviews I seen placed the battery life slightly better than the galaxy s8. I also think the mods make this phone very practical. With the small/thin size of the phone, the mods won't add an extreme amount of bulk to the device.
    08-08-2017 07:11 PM
  9. worldsoutro's Avatar
    After reading many Moto Z2 Force reviews online I was disappointed. Many of them were negative but that wasn’t what made me disappointed. What made me disappointed was the lack of diversity among those tasked with writing reviews and their lack of inquisitiveness.

    I couldn't find an online review written by a female. I’m sure women buy smartphones as often as men do. There was also not much diversity in age. I'm sure that smartphones are used by people of all ages. The narrow perspective is disappointing.

    Many of them complained about things they didn't like but didn't inquire about why a decision was made. I'm glad some of them asked those questions but I wish more of them did. Maybe the company will just give marketing spin as an answer but at least it gives more insight.

    For example, many of them complained about the lack of a headphone jack. They realized that the Moto Z2 Play includes a headphone jack and is just a hair thinner than the Z2 Force. Perhaps Motorola opted not to include it because they think wireless audio or digital output is the direction of the industry. Perhaps they wanted to use that space for some other component in the screen. All they had to do was ask...

    Another thing I found puzzling was how some of them viewed Moto Mods. It’s okay if the reviewers think the current mods are too expensive or the mods are not useful for them. But the Z series phones were designed with mods in mind. That is why they have keep the same shape, have the exposed connector pins and why the camera is raised. If they take some time to understand the "Moto Mod" platform and understand it at a basic level they are really not able to give a thoughtful review.

    I hope in the future there will be a more diverse set of reviewers and more inquiring of why product design decisions were made. Then there will be different use cases and viewpoints presented that can give the readers more insight when determining which phone to buy.
    Oh god not the PC police.. There are tons of females that review phones, you obviously didn't look hard enough
    08-09-2017 09:28 AM

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