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  1. Keith White Jr's Avatar
    I just bought a new Note 4 from amazon after many many years on Windows phones, and so far I am loving it. Any tips I should know?
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    09-13-2017 10:36 AM
  2. natehoy's Avatar
    I just bought a new Note 4 from amazon after many many years on Windows phones, and so far I am loving it. Any tips I should know?
    That's a huge list.

    I'd say the very first thing to do is to disable some of the built-in software like Peel Remote (there are better free apps on the Play Store if you decide to use your phone as a TV remote control anyway) - Peel is really bad about popping up ads, and that's just going to be frustrating and give you negative vibes from the get-go. No one wants that to happen.

    Second, take out yon S-Pen and start playing around with it. It's one of the huge things that makes the Note series unique, and a lot of us will give up our S-Pen when you take it from our cold, dead hands. It's the primary reason I (a self-admitted heavily addicted phonehopper since the Blackberry Pearl) have carried the Note 4 for coming up on three years now. Everything else feels so painfully inaccurate, and the partial screen capture and some of the other neat tricks are very useful (to me - your mileage may vary).
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    09-13-2017 12:50 PM
  3. Jon Duval's Avatar
    i had the note 4 untill i received my note 8 and im telling you its a HUGE HUGE step up you WILL NOT regret upgrading its so much better
    09-13-2017 01:15 PM
  4. natehoy's Avatar
    i had the note 4 untill i received my note 8 and im telling you its a HUGE HUGE step up you WILL NOT regret upgrading its so much better
    I'm watching the Note 8 forums to see how things look in a few months. I realize that it is better in every way in terms of speed, camera, screen, new features, etc etc. But my last two sealed-battery phones didn't last a year each before battery life started degrading, and the iFixit teardown on the Note 8 is pretty iffy in terms of ease of swapping batteries.
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    09-14-2017 08:28 AM
  5. huntnyc's Avatar
    I am training my kranich 9600 math battery now hoping it will give me 2 days or more battery life. Love Note 4 battery options.
    09-14-2017 09:50 AM
  6. Isaiah Peterson's Avatar
    I think the note 4 was the peak phone of the note lineup. It was where they struck the best balance of various competing design challenges. The current option just doesn't have the same near perfection to me.

    Maybe the screen is marginally better now, but I'm perfectly happy with the screen on the Note 4 still.

    They took away the removable battery to give waterproofing, and a premium look and feel both of which are almost entirely useless to me. The back looks better now? So what, it's hidden by a case for me and the vast majority of users, so the look of the back is a totally pointless advantage.

    You know what every user likes? Being able to turn the phone on because it has a charge. That was more reliably achieved with the "dated" design.

    Waterproofing? Its a fun novelty to take swim videos, but the rare occasion where I take advantage of that didn't make up for the loss of knowing I'm always 30 seconds away from having a fully charged phone. The s5 was waterproof with a removable back so that wasn't even a totally necessary change anyway.

    What they did do with the 4 that elevated it to a new place compared to its predecessors was the metal body instead of plastic. That was the good kind of focus on a premium build where function wasn't sacrificed.

    I really want to want the note 8, but losing the IR blaster and replaceable battery feels like such a loss. As much as Iike the edge screen on my S8 I think I would almost prefer a fully flat screen for the note.

    The top and bottom bezel minimization on the current generation is absolutely a big improvement with the current generation, but that is the only way that the design has improved in my eyes. In basically every other way the design has regressed and become less functional over all. Notes really should be about bringing as much functionality to the table as possible.
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    09-14-2017 05:36 PM
  7. Coraya's Avatar
    the sealed battery doesn't really bother me anymore because I believe water resistance can really save your butt God forbid you drop it in a toilet (me), drop it outside in a snow puddle and not noticing until hours later (dad) or drop it in a pool? Given my G6 will still work if anything like that happens, I'll gladly give up the removable battery. IR blaster is cool though and I don't understand why they don't include it. I'm thinking about the Note 8 but it just seems so damn expensive.
    09-18-2017 01:04 PM
  8. Sammuel1973's Avatar
    I'm watching the Note 8 forums to see how things look in a few months. I realize that it is better in every way in terms of speed, camera, screen, new features, etc etc. But my last two sealed-battery phones didn't last a year each before battery life started degrading, and the iFixit teardown on the Note 8 is pretty iffy in terms of ease of swapping batteries.
    FYI, I am back to my N4 from my N8, after a week of use, because it's still more convenient battery wise with my N4.
    09-22-2017 08:43 AM
  9. natehoy's Avatar
    FYI, I am back to my N4 from my N8, after a week of use, because it's still more convenient battery wise with my N4.
    In my case I've been having mobile data lag issues with my Note 4. My wife just upgraded her S7 Edge to an LG G6, and I decided to factory reset her S7 Edge and try it exclusively for a week to see if it helped.

    Sadly, it did. And I realized how much inadequacy I have been dealing with in terms of the fingerprint scanner and how much Nougat-based TouchWiz has really brought to the table... :mind_blown: - they even replaced about 2/3 of what I had previously been using S-Pen for with functions that don't require an S-Pen (cropping screenshots, that sort of thing).

    I haven't touched the Note 4 in a week except to power it up to check something for the forum here.

    I'm still not ready to pay money for anything that has a sealed and hard to replace battery. I know the S7e will start losing battery life before too much longer and it'll become a "tethered to a charger" addict and/or I'll have to brick it up by adding a battery case.

    But it does make me sad all over again that no one is building a modern flagship with a swappable battery any more.
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    09-22-2017 09:14 AM
  10. Keith White Jr's Avatar
    That's a huge list.

    I'd say the very first thing to do is to disable some of the built-in software like Peel Remote (there are better free apps on the Play Store if you decide to use your phone as a TV remote control anyway) - Peel is really bad about popping up ads, and that's just going to be frustrating and give you negative vibes from the get-go. No one wants that to happen.

    Second, take out yon S-Pen and start playing around with it. It's one of the huge things that makes the Note series unique, and a lot of us will give up our S-Pen when you take it from our cold, dead hands. It's the primary reason I (a self-admitted heavily addicted phonehopper since the Blackberry Pearl) have carried the Note 4 for coming up on three years now. Everything else feels so painfully inaccurate, and the partial screen capture and some of the other neat tricks are very useful (to me - your mileage may vary).

    Thank you! I am loving the pen!! I show it off to my WP and iPhone using friends. All are amazed lol
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    09-22-2017 02:18 PM
  11. Coraya's Avatar
    What are the chances Samsung builds another note that has the durability that leaves you unafraid of dropping when you take it out of your pocket? One that doesn't have a silly curved screen? One that truly looks completely different when its sitting next to it's S series counterpart. They've leaned far on the side of the apple and their iPhone. Making all their devices look generally the same.

    I was on a plane a couple of weeks ago and I couldn't tell if the guy next to me had a Note 8 or the S8+. I would have even went with a Note 5 over the 8 if it had a darn SD card slot.

    Rant over. To sum it up, and I'm sure I've said this a million times on the forums... I would have kept my Note 4 if it stopped giving me SIM card errors, random reboots so on and so forth. When the Note 4 worked. It freaking worked.
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    09-26-2017 08:01 AM
  12. natehoy's Avatar
    Well, I'm back on the Note 4. My wife's S7 Edge battery had degraded too much in the year and a half she used it, and I decided not to spend a bunch on wireless chargers so I could set it down on a charger every time I set it down. Despite the not-as-good camera, slower processor, larger size, inferior fingerprint scanner, and missing features - the Note 4 is still the right phone for me, I guess. LOL
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    09-28-2017 07:23 AM
  13. Sammuel1973's Avatar
    Well, I'm back the Note 4. My wife's S7 Edge battery had degraded too much in the year and a half she used it, and I decided not to spend a bunch on wireless chargers so I could set it down on a charger every time I set it down. Despite the not-as-good camera, slower processor, larger size, inferior fingerprint scanner, and missing features - the Note 4 is still the right phone for me, I guess. LOL
    As you know, I am back with my N4 from the N8, although I may give the N8 another try. I recently did a TMobile warranty exchange on my old N4, and my "new" N4 is pretty snappy, just as good overall as my N8. Too bad the N8 doesn't has the swappable battery, cuz I really like that phone...but what's good about a phone when it runs out of juice? I just hate the idea of being tethered.
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    09-28-2017 08:30 AM
  14. starbuckk's Avatar
    I had to choose between replacing a perfectly good Note 4 with a $954 Note 8, or an aging barely functioning Note 10.1 Tablet with Tab S3. I'm sending this message from the Tab S3 while the reliable little Note 4 with a battery replaced a few months ago recharges .
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    09-29-2017 07:31 PM
  15. rj7500's Avatar
    Definitely keeping my Note 4 for at least another year or so. I don't see any major improvements in the new model.
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    10-05-2017 03:16 PM
  16. Coraya's Avatar
    If the Galaxy Note 9 isn't foldable, that fingerprint sensor is going to move to the center if not in the screen itself. The Note 8 finger print sensor location seems like the designers and engineers got together and agreed to the words "that'll do" and moved on. Seems to me that the Note 7 debacle may have hurt them temporarily but the complacency lingered with the development of the Note 8
    10-05-2017 07:21 PM
  17. agaskew's Avatar
    Mine's rooted and running Android 7.1.2 AKA LineageOS. If you can do without the Pen, it runs like a champ. I also have an S8, to which the rooted Note 4 compares very favourably for performance.
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    10-06-2017 03:27 AM
  18. MomoMilky's Avatar
    Note 4 stays until I somehow break it ;] I can't have a glass back / edge phone (not the type to baby my phones, haha). My poor Note 4 has been through too many drops and smacks but still has no cracks. Removable battery is a must. I recently noticed my battery was getting bad... so I just bought a new one and popped it in. Voila! Problem fixed. The only gripe is I wish the battery was a bigger capacity.

    Not willing to spend $1000+ for a phone that will be outdated within a year.
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    10-13-2017 04:33 PM
  19. natehoy's Avatar
    The only gripe is I wish the battery was a bigger capacity.
    Well, another big advantage is that you don't have to replace the battery with a stock-sized one, provided you are willing to put up with a bigger, heavier phone. And for the days when you aren't willing to put up with that, you can use the stock battery and back.

    One of my earliest Android phones was an HTC Thunderbolt. The battery life on that thing was TERRIBLE (it supported simultaneous voice and data on Verizon by having two separate radios that were both on at the same time, and in weak signal areas that meant double the drain). But the back came off and the battery could be replaced with a double or triple capacity battery very easily. I got used to the size and weight soon enough.
    10-16-2017 11:29 AM
  20. dlcpa's Avatar
    I use my phone a lot on some days and I have noticed batteries swelling. Right now I have the screen brightness as high as it can go and sometimes certain programs initiate location services and that draws a lot of power. Some of my Note 4 batteries are beginning to swell and belly. What would happen 2A thinks battery that has no room to expand or you can't just throw it out and put another one in. I think this problem will exist especially with smaller batteries that they're putting in especially if you have location services and you like to have the display very bright.

    I just got my phone fixed by Samsung but if they weren't going to do it I was going to get an LG v20. I can't see any reason why it's worth spending $1,000 for a Note 8 vs $300 for an LG v20. I have used the pen and I have had a Note 2 and the Note 4 since 2012 but quite frankly it's not that important for me and I don't use it that often. Perhaps if I used it more I would get better at it but I just don't love it and certainly that's not worth $700 to me.
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    10-16-2017 09:48 PM
  21. agaskew's Avatar
    Having now replaced the Note 4 battery with an Anker one, battery life on my Note 4 is as good, or better, than the S8. I also prefer the slightly wider screen format to the slimmer S8.

    As said before, if you can manage without the Note 4 Pen, except as a stylus pointer, then I must recommend rooting your Note 4 and installing Lineage OS - its basically stock Android without the Samsung stuff like Touchwiz on top. There are many guides on how to do this, especially on YouTube. The UI is really smooth.

    I've done some side-to-side comparisons of app loading with the rooted Note 4 and the S8, there isnt much difference. The S8 is definitely a faster device, and has a brighter screen. But for a three year old device, the Note 4 acquits itself very well - its totally usable.
    Its just a pity that the Note 4 appears slow or obsolete because of the stock software running on it, but rooting and installing a custom ROM shows how capable it is. This undoubtedly applies to other, older devices.

    NOTE: If you choose to root your handsetand install a custom ROM, of course you do this at your own risk because you do risk bricking your device.
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    10-18-2017 09:22 AM
  22. Sajag Dattani's Avatar
    I am planning to keep my Note 4 for another year as my Note 4 does all I need it to do and I have played with Note 8 in my local Samsung store I didnt see the need to spend £870 on it as i personally still think Note 4 was the best note they made.
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    10-20-2017 12:23 PM
  23. nahoku's Avatar
    There's nothing the newer Note offers me that my Note 4 can't handle. I too messed around with the new Note just to see what the hoopla was all about. It was nice, but I wasn't so much impressed enough to even think about it. It's all personal use for me and not so much having a new thing year after year. I've been lucky to have had my Note 4 since a few months after release and it still runs like it did when I bought it. It's still on Kitkat 4.4.4 too!

    I also own a practically brand new spare Note 4 purchased about a year ago. Got a good deal on it and originally intended to use it on T-Mobile. That never materialized, but that's ok as I'll just hold on to it for now. It's just sitting the box right now. The way my daily is running, I tend to wonder if I'll ever pull it out!

    i personally still think Note 4 was the best note they made
    I tend to agree with you 100% on this! The Note 4 is the last "real" Note before Samsung went all silly!

    Haven't posted in a very long time, but just couldn't help my Note 4 fandom!
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    10-20-2017 09:06 PM
  24. jgutteter's Avatar
    Went back to my note 4 after a year with an iPhone..missed the customization, battery, IR, screen, removable storage.....you name it. I won't upgrade until it's dead or not being supported becomes an issue. Not going back to apple that's for sure.
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    11-26-2017 09:55 PM
  25. electroman365's Avatar
    Other than the fact that Note 4 is the last real Note (with all the options that are missing in the newer ones), other than the fact that my Note 4 functions and looks like brand new, other than the fact that there's really no logical reason why I should "upgrade" when my phone does exactly -if not more- what newer Notes do, I really really really hate to be forced (by the greedy manufacturers) to spend my money on devices that don't even give me what I want so they can line up their pockets while laughing at us. $1000+ for a god damn phone that will only last a couple of years before it becomes "obsolete" and they force us again to buy the next "upgrade".... NO THANKS.
    I don't see myself buying another phone unless my N4 stops working. Other than that, I don't see even one reason why I should. I'm a practical guy, not like most people who turn into walking zombies and are willing to kill to get their hands on the next stupid new phone. What is wrong with people ?
    And, unless Samsung -or whoever- comes up with a phone that's similar to the N4, my next phone will be another Note 4.
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    12-25-2017 04:04 PM
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