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  1. mickeylittle777's Avatar
    Makes sense. But MM's Doze is probably way less important than having Deep Sleep (already in 5.1.1) work properly. Some apps are known to thwart it. Have you tried using CPU Spy to confirm that your phone is deep-sleeping most of the time when it's idle? That made a huge difference for me.
    So far today it has shown 37% deep sleep, 38% 400 MHz and then smaller percents scattered up the chart. Is this good or bad? If bad is there something that will show me how/what to fix?
    06-04-2016 10:15 PM
  2. doctordwaynewilliams's Avatar
    I had that same issue with very short range on my Beats bluetooth headset, and it would cut out frequently to the point that I gave up using them, but haven't had the issue since I've updated to MM. I've seen a few other reports as well where people had the same issue and MM fixed it.
    I'm not on Marshmallow and I have a Note 5 and Beats. I don't have any issues with my Bluetooth.
    06-04-2016 10:18 PM
  3. Gary02468's Avatar
    So far today it has shown 37% deep sleep, 38% 400 MHz and then smaller percents scattered up the chart. Is this good or bad?
    Depends. When the phone is completely idle, it should spend the vast majority of that time in deep sleep. You could leave it idle for, say, ten minutes, and see if the deep-sleep time advances by almost ten minutes.
    06-05-2016 07:02 AM
  4. Roguefoxx's Avatar
    I'm not on Marshmallow and I have a Note 5 and Beats. I don't have any issues with my Bluetooth.
    Lucky you, now that I've upgraded to MM I don't have any issues either. Good to know that now BOTH of us have great sound coming from a great phone through our headsets
    06-05-2016 10:52 AM
  5. mandroid921's Avatar
    The most important feature of android MM is the ability to control the permissions of apps. For instance why does a pizza app need access to my phone's camera, microphone and internal storage? It is critical to be able to disable unnecessary access to permissions. This was a major advantage when I used a Blackberry. Has AT&T provided a reason for this extreme delay in the upgrade? The usual reason is making sure their bloatware is unaffected.
    06-05-2016 11:35 AM
  6. bbqwings2's Avatar
    Last night I stayed up until 2 flashing marshmallow. It worked great this time.
    Recommendations for people doing it in the future:
    Don't start at 1 am
    Make sure your ADB is up to date, it didn't work last time for me because of this reason
    Obviously make sure your phone/computer has lots of battery
    Don't use a cheap 3rd party cable

    Thanks to all you guys that helped me with it when it didn't work the first time

    Sent from my ATT Note 5 paired with a 42 mm Asus Zenwatch
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    06-05-2016 03:00 PM
  7. dakini03's Avatar
    Last night I stayed up until 2 flashing marshmallow. It worked great this time.
    Recommendations for people doing it in the future:
    Don't start at 1 am
    Make sure your ADB is up to date, it didn't work last time for me because of this reason
    Obviously make sure your phone/computer has lots of battery
    Don't use a cheap 3rd party cable

    Thanks to all you guys that helped me with it when it didn't work the first time

    Sent from my ATT Note 5 paired with a 42 mm Asus Zenwatch
    Good going and welcome to Marshmallow!
    06-05-2016 04:28 PM
  8. Brad Bilger's Avatar
    This what I mean. Some said yes, MM fixed it. Others say replaced your motherboard. I'll just wait for MM and then go from there. Simple stuff first.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    06-05-2016 05:01 PM
  9. bovineman61's Avatar
    Just want to remind everyone about sideloading Marshmallow on their phones from XDA. I just got through talking with Samsung support and the rep told me that if it is your intent to use the XDA version of Marshmallow you have just voided your warranty. Samsung views the XDA edition of Marshmallow as 3rd party software, thus being unauthorized. The only authorized edition that will not void your warranty is the edition AT&T pushes out OTA. So if you brick your phone don't expect any help from Samsung. I like many of us here am impatient and tired of getting the run around by AT&T. I know everyone here who has not sideloaded their phones are still under warranty but wait. Hopefully it will be here soon.
    06-06-2016 04:47 AM
  10. Roguefoxx's Avatar
    Just want to remind everyone about sideloading Marshmallow on their phones from XDA. I just got through talking with Samsung support and the rep told me that if it is your intent to use the XDA version of Marshmallow you have just voided your warranty. Samsung views the XDA edition of Marshmallow as 3rd party software, thus being unauthorized. The only authorized edition that will not void your warranty is the edition AT&T pushes out OTA. So if you brick your phone don't expect any help from Samsung. I like many of us here am impatient and tired of getting the run around by AT&T. I know everyone here who has not sideloaded their phones are still under warranty but wait. Hopefully it will be here soon.
    While I appreciate your concern, I as well as many many others have been doing this for years and years and have never had a warranty issue. You can always flash back to stock and problem solved, as long as that option has been made available, which in this case it has. Is there a chance at bricking your phone, sure there always is when you tamper with them in this manner, but it is pretty unlikely especially when there is an odin avenue back to stock.

    Not trying to discount your concern at all as when you are dealing with phones that are this expensive it is certainly warranted. Any of this should always be done keeping in mind it is being done at your own risk.
    06-06-2016 07:17 AM
  11. Gary02468's Avatar
    Samsung views the XDA edition of Marshmallow as 3rd party software, thus being unauthorized.
    The "XDA edition" is nothing but a link to a download directly from AT&T's own server. AT&T is not a "3rd party", regardless of what a support rep may say over the phone.
    H3aTeRzz likes this.
    06-06-2016 07:52 AM
  12. boufa's Avatar
    The "XDA edition" is nothing but a link to a download directly from AT&T's own server. AT&T is not a "3rd party", regardless of what a support rep may say over the phone.
    Can't we all agree that support reps, and customer service reps are completely useless on predicting the future. Future warrentee claims, future OS updates, etc. They react to problems, ie My phone is bricked, or my bill is wrong... they don't predict future decisions of their companies.
    Issemann likes this.
    06-06-2016 08:42 AM
  13. Dominick079's Avatar
    The "XDA edition" is nothing but a link to a download directly from AT&T's own server. AT&T is not a "3rd party", regardless of what a support rep may say over the phone.
    Even if is not a 3rd party software I'm just not willing to take that chance on voiding my warranty on a $800 phone over a software update. Whenever AT&T releases MM is fine with me. But we appreciate your help with the people that want the update now

    Posted via the AT&T Note 5
    06-06-2016 09:30 AM
  14. Gary02468's Avatar
    Even if is not a 3rd party software I'm just not willing to take that chance on voiding my warranty on a $800 phone over a software update.
    Yup, perfectly reasonable choice either way.

    Be aware, though, that the Device Status is still reported as Official after the update. And Samsung Pay, which is very sensitive to any software tampering, continues to work happily. Plus, users have succesfully reverted to a previous OTA release when they've wanted to. Still, you're right that something could always go awry.
    jlost likes this.
    06-06-2016 09:38 AM
  15. H3aTeRzz's Avatar
    I'm waiting patiently for the OTA :-)
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    06-06-2016 07:13 PM
  16. Rmbrown1964's Avatar
    I hope it's this week! I look forward to using Fingerprint for my chase bank app.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    06-06-2016 11:25 PM
  17. Valaar's Avatar
    I just found this forum, didn't realize you all didn't have MM on AT&T. I imported an International Galaxy Note 5 like a month ago and within 2 days of using it, was prompted by the phone to update. To my surprise, it was the MM update. I'm on AT&T and so far, its been great. Not really sure what is taking AT&T so long to get the update out to US models, but mine is fantastic.

    I can post pictures if needed, but I can promise, this wasn't anything side loaded or rooted.
    06-07-2016 08:47 AM
  18. troyboytn's Avatar
    Just want to remind everyone about sideloading Marshmallow on their phones from XDA. I just got through talking with Samsung support and the rep told me that if it is your intent to use the XDA version of Marshmallow you have just voided your warranty. Samsung views the XDA edition of Marshmallow as 3rd party software, thus being unauthorized. The only authorized edition that will not void your warranty is the edition AT&T pushes out OTA. So if you brick your phone don't expect any help from Samsung. I like many of us here am impatient and tired of getting the run around by AT&T. I know everyone here who has not sideloaded their phones are still under warranty but wait. Hopefully it will be here soon.
    Samsung informed you incorrectly as the "XDA" version IS official firmware pulled from AT&Ts own servers. The firmware states "official" in settings, it does NOT trip Knox warranty flags, and both Android Pay and Samsung Pay are active and work with the firmware. This is in NO way a third party firmware as Samsung and AT&T are the only contributors to the firmware itself. As long as these conditions are met, Samsung cannot refuse warranty... The Samsung rep may have thought that since you were speaking of XDA, that there was a rooted/modded firmware that you was thinking of loading.
    06-07-2016 11:21 AM
  19. coolbreeze78's Avatar
    Samsung informed you incorrectly as the "XDA" version IS official firmware pulled from AT&Ts own servers. The firmware states "official" in settings, it does NOT trip Knox warranty flags, and both Android Pay and Samsung Pay are active and work with the firmware. This is in NO way a third party firmware as Samsung and AT&T are the only contributors to the firmware itself. As long as these conditions are met, Samsung cannot refuse warranty... The Samsung rep may have thought that since you were speaking of XDA, that there was a rooted/modded firmware that you was thinking of loading.
    This is true. Anyone who thinks the software, which is directly from ATT themselves, is "hacked" or XDA engineered is spreading FUD. It's fully legit, just hasn't been pushed yet. Why, nobody knows, but there is no warranty voiding or any other scary things going on. That's just Samsung hearing "XDA" and knee-jerk saying "VOID WARRANTY!!!11"

    All sorts of flags would be tripped by Knox if it wasn't official. Nothing is tripped and it's fully legit.
    06-07-2016 01:05 PM
  20. Rmbrown1964's Avatar
    Thank you for your post.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    06-07-2016 02:17 PM
  21. boufa's Avatar
    This is true. Anyone who thinks the software, which is directly from ATT themselves, is "hacked" or XDA engineered is spreading FUD. It's fully legit, just hasn't been pushed yet. Why, nobody knows, but there is no warranty voiding or any other scary things going on. That's just Samsung hearing "XDA" and knee-jerk saying "VOID WARRANTY!!!11"

    All sorts of flags would be tripped by Knox if it wasn't official. Nothing is tripped and it's fully legit.
    No, its a customer service rep who isn't as versed in the technology that they are talking about as we are. I repeat my initial statement, I wouldn't trust a customer service rep on anything that isn't past history, and think it is downright foolish to even ask them about such things. Why don't you call them up and ask them about the presidential election, or if it is going to rain next week. They don't know, and it is unfair of us to even ask them about it. NO they don't know when the update is coming out. NO, they don't know if you caused an issue with an UNAUTHORIZED download, if it would be covered.

    Why is it UNAUTHORIZED.. because it is. Will it likely cause any issues, no, not really, is it wrong, and will Samsung have an issue with it, no, not likely either (although, if you tried to get service on your phone BEFORE the real update comes out, you might have some explaining to do.) I realize that this update is reported to be from AT&T's servers, and that is all just a rumor, because only the person who did the initial posting knows for sure. It is also forcing on software that has not be released and might not be final. If it was authorized, they would release it. I don't think this is a bad thing, I am not arguing with those who have done it, I am just pointing out that it is what it is, and the community in all of its greatness, cannot simply will it to be authorized.

    When I get the time I will likely do the upgrade using it. I'm ok with it. But please stop referring to it as official and authorized. Its misleading. It IS safe, low risk, and likely the same as the OTA when it comes out, but that is definitely different than authorized and official.
    06-07-2016 07:20 PM
  22. serpent2005's Avatar
    I just found this forum, didn't realize you all didn't have MM on AT&T. I imported an International Galaxy Note 5 like a month ago and within 2 days of using it, was prompted by the phone to update. To my surprise, it was the MM update. I'm on AT&T and so far, its been great. Not really sure what is taking AT&T so long to get the update out to US models, but mine is fantastic.

    I can post pictures if needed, but I can promise, this wasn't anything side loaded or rooted.
    So software updates for your international device comes directly from Samsung and not from AT&T even though you're getting service from AT&T?
    06-07-2016 08:20 PM
  23. coolbreeze78's Avatar
    No, its a customer service rep who isn't as versed in the technology that they are talking about as we are. I repeat my initial statement, I wouldn't trust a customer service rep on anything that isn't past history, and think it is downright foolish to even ask them about such things. Why don't you call them up and ask them about the presidential election, or if it is going to rain next week. They don't know, and it is unfair of us to even ask them about it. NO they don't know when the update is coming out. NO, they don't know if you caused an issue with an UNAUTHORIZED download, if it would be covered.

    Why is it UNAUTHORIZED.. because it is. Will it likely cause any issues, no, not really, is it wrong, and will Samsung have an issue with it, no, not likely either (although, if you tried to get service on your phone BEFORE the real update comes out, you might have some explaining to do.) I realize that this update is reported to be from AT&T's servers, and that is all just a rumor, because only the person who did the initial posting knows for sure. It is also forcing on software that has not be released and might not be final. If it was authorized, they would release it. I don't think this is a bad thing, I am not arguing with those who have done it, I am just pointing out that it is what it is, and the community in all of its greatness, cannot simply will it to be authorized.

    When I get the time I will likely do the upgrade using it. I'm ok with it. But please stop referring to it as official and authorized. Its misleading. It IS safe, low risk, and likely the same as the OTA when it comes out, but that is definitely different than authorized and official.
    That's fine but if you read the XDA thread where the guy found it, he essentially wrote a script to scan AT&T'S update server and found it. Is it final? Does it have bugs? Only AT&T knows, but its certainly an official build by Samsung/AT&T. If it wasn't, it would have tripped knox in a millisecond as it would have failed signature/security checks instantly. Unless some XDA nerd hacked I to and uploaded into AT&T'S servers and uploaded it...which is...kinda unlikely to say the least.

    I'm not concerned with the minutiae. I've been running it and it's perfect. Everyone else is welcome to wait of course, but it's smooth sailing here. Official enough for me. The Internet authorized it for us because AT&T is a molasses slow organization. I was done waiting.
    06-07-2016 10:27 PM
  24. Gary02468's Avatar
    this update is reported to be from AT&T's servers, and that is all just a rumor, because only the person who did the initial posting knows for sure.
    What's provided is a (secure) link to AT&T's server itself. You can download the firmware directly from there; you needn't rely on anyone's purported mirror. However, although the URL is indeed AT&T's cloud service (attcompute.com), I admittedly don't know how to confirm that the link is not to some 3rd party's cloud account.
    06-08-2016 05:43 AM
  25. Almeuit's Avatar
    That's fine but if you read the XDA thread where the guy found it, he essentially wrote a script to scan AT&T'S update server and found it. Is it final? Does it have bugs? Only AT&T knows, but its certainly an official build by Samsung/AT&T. If it wasn't, it would have tripped knox in a millisecond as it would have failed signature/security checks instantly. Unless some XDA nerd hacked I to and uploaded into AT&T'S servers and uploaded it...which is...kinda unlikely to say the least.
    This would be an opinion. Samsung and them state if you modify the software at all (as in not accepting an update from what they count as authorized) then you can void the warranty on the phone. This isn't new and has been around since ROMs.
    06-08-2016 04:32 PM
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