07-19-2020 06:10 PM
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  1. thegame161's Avatar
    Those who bought the 512GB 16GB of ram any differences? I’m guessing not.
    07-16-2020 07:28 AM
  2. Mooncatt's Avatar
    I think for now it's just for bragging rights. 12GB is still a bit overkill today as it is.
    07-16-2020 08:25 AM
  3. Mike Dee's Avatar
    When you have more than enough RAM already you won't see a difference as far as lag. The only difference you'll see is how many apps more RAM can keep running in the background.
    BergerKing and Laura Knotek like this.
    07-16-2020 08:45 AM
  4. BergerKing's Avatar
    Heck, 6 gigs is still getting the job done nicely.
    07-16-2020 11:31 AM
  5. the_boon's Avatar
    Heck, 6 gigs is still getting the job done nicely.
    Exactly. Manufacturers that stuff overkill amounts of RAM in their phones just screams "we didn't know what to bother upgrading and didn't want to spend R&D in other more useful things, so we put 12GB/16GB to say we did something".
    Morty2264 likes this.
    07-16-2020 11:57 AM
  6. Mike Dee's Avatar
    Heck, 6 gigs is still getting the job done nicely.
    Well 4 gigs works too, but I don't want to go backwards.
    Laura Knotek and BergerKing like this.
    07-16-2020 02:51 PM
  7. Mike Dee's Avatar
    Exactly. Manufacturers that stuff overkill amounts of RAM in their phones just screams "we didn't know what to bother upgrading and didn't want to spend R&D in other more useful things, so we put 12GB/16GB to say we did something".
    It's actually a delicate balance and a lot depends on how you use your device. More RAM uses more battery because it always on whether it's full or not so if you're a minimilist user too much RAM is a waste in money and battery efficiency. If you have too little RAM and are a heavy user your RAM keeps swapping out apps and reloading so it's also not battery efficiency, however your out of pocket for the device is less. I'm of the opinion that 6 to 8 is a good number but we can't buy devices in every configuration. Many of us buy a 512GB device because we like lots of storage and also get stuck buying more RAM.
    Laura Knotek and reintgenrc like this.
    07-16-2020 03:01 PM
  8. Casualballer's Avatar
    Heck, 6 gigs is still getting the job done nicely.
    Darn straight!
    BergerKing likes this.
    07-16-2020 03:55 PM
  9. BergerKing's Avatar
    Well 4 gigs works too, but I don't want to go backwards.
    Unfortunately, my second phone has roughly the same specs as my old S4, meaning 16 ROM and 2 RAM on Android 9, no less. I keep minimal apps on it just to keep functional, and use my Note 9 for everything else. Trying to use the J2 Core the way is use the Note 9 is impossible.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    07-16-2020 07:29 PM
  10. mustang7757's Avatar
    On stock andriod phones you don't need that much ram only keep things in memory longer, Samsung phones do with all the apps that run in the background ,dex etc ...keeps them running smoothly combined with latest chips .
    BergerKing likes this.
    07-16-2020 08:30 PM
  11. Mike Dee's Avatar
    On stock andriod phones you don't need that much ram only keep things in memory longer, Samsung phones do with all the apps that run in the background ,dex etc ...keeps them running smoothly combined with latest chips .
    It was you who talked me into Samsung. I knew you were rotten to the core
    mustang7757 and BergerKing like this.
    07-16-2020 08:44 PM
  12. mustang7757's Avatar
    It was you who talked me into Samsung. I knew you were rotten to the core
    Lol..not saying anything bad
    07-16-2020 08:45 PM
  13. the_boon's Avatar
    On stock andriod phones you don't need that much ram only keep things in memory longer, Samsung phones do with all the apps that run in the background ,dex etc ...keeps them running smoothly combined with latest chips .
    If you disable all the Samsung apps that you don't need, it should help converse more RAM.
    07-16-2020 09:09 PM
  14. mustang7757's Avatar
    If you disable all the Samsung apps that you don't need, it should help converse more RAM.
    It definitely does , but most dont dive into that , especially system apps that only can with say PDP
    07-16-2020 09:13 PM
  15. I_didnt_do_it's Avatar
    Righr now 16 GB of RAM is nothing more than a price grab, just a reason for the manufacturer to charge a higher price. There isn't much practicality for more than 12 GB of RAM right now.
    the_boon likes this.
    07-17-2020 08:04 AM
  16. cknobman's Avatar
    Yes they do.

    But it is an easy marketing term for the uninformed and ignorant.

    It allows manufacturers to increase the profits on a phone by charging extra.

    Not everyone is tech savy so they just go off numbers without a real understanding of the meaning behind them.

    Heck my 2 year old Note "only" has 6gb ram and there is usually 3gb of free ram.
    How often has all 6gb been used? NOT ONCE
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    07-17-2020 08:55 AM
  17. Morty2264's Avatar
    I always buy the lower-RAM models. I don't store/run a ton of things on my phone to make it lag or stutter but really, I don't notice a difference.
    07-17-2020 09:19 AM
  18. Mike Dee's Avatar
    Yes they do.

    But it is an easy marketing term for the uninformed and ignorant.

    It allows manufacturers to increase the profits on a phone by charging extra.

    Not everyone is tech savy so they just go off numbers without a real understanding of the meaning behind them.

    Heck my 2 year old Note "only" has 6gb ram and there is usually 3gb of free ram.
    How often has all 6gb been used? NOT ONCE
    Tech savvy consumers buy devices with large amounts of RAM, not just the ignorant and uninformed.

    Android is designed to never use all of its RAM regardless of size which explains why you have RAM left over. The bottom line is less RAM equals more app swapping and reloading.

    On a fresh reboot my 16GB device uses 5.3 GB with 1.8 GB reserved and 8.9 GB available. After loading a few apps it uses 7.8 GB with 1.8 GB reserved and 6.4 GB available. As the day goes on I'm sure my numbers will go up.

    Note that I didn't purposely buy the 16 GB model for the amount of RAM. I bought it for the 512 GB of storage because the other choice was 128 GB with 12 GB of RAM. The storage is what brings up most of the cost difference from the base model and we don't get to choose the exact configuration we want.12GB of RAM vs. 16GB of RAM? Anyone feeling the difference?-screenshot_20200717-100639_device-20care.jpeg12GB of RAM vs. 16GB of RAM? Anyone feeling the difference?-screenshot_20200717-102100_device-20care.jpeg
    07-17-2020 09:42 AM
  19. Nostromo79's Avatar
    There's something intangible at play with the 16 v. 12 gigs. This perception of mine is why I'll reach for the S20 Ultra instead of the Note 10 Plus when I've got multitasking to do.
    BergerKing likes this.
    07-17-2020 09:56 AM
  20. cknobman's Avatar
    Tech savvy consumers buy devices with large amounts of RAM, not just the ignorant and uninformed.

    Android is designed to never use all of its RAM regardless of size which explains why you have RAM left over. The bottom line is less RAM equals more app swapping and reloading.
    I guess my question then would be is Android pre loading all these apps for you so they are already in memory before you request to open them?
    Because on my Note 9 outside of services it is not preloading RAM with apps. The apps still have the initial load into RAM.

    So unless I am actively using enough apps to fill up existing RAM forcing it to close some I dont ever see the benefit of more RAM.

    I'm not saying more RAM is completely useless. It has its use cases but I just dont see the average use case needing it or benefitting from it.
    I see it as an extra drain on your battery and your wallet.
    07-17-2020 09:57 AM
  21. Mike Dee's Avatar
    I guess my question then would be is Android pre loading all these apps for you so they are already in memory before you request to open them?
    Because on my Note 9 outside of services it is not preloading RAM with apps. The apps still have the initial load into RAM.

    So unless I am actively using enough apps to fill up existing RAM forcing it to close some I dont ever see the benefit of more RAM.

    I'm not saying more RAM is completely useless. It has its use cases but I just dont see the average use case needing it or benefitting from it.
    I see it as an extra drain on your battery and your wallet.
    Your battery will actually drain faster if you don't have enough RAM for your use case which will result in a lot of swapping.
    07-17-2020 10:14 AM
  22. Notefan161's Avatar
    Think 12GB will be fine for my usage with 128GB of storage for the note ultra when it’s out
    07-17-2020 12:36 PM
  23. Mike Dee's Avatar
    Think 12GB will be fine for my usage with 128GB of storage for the note ultra when it’s out
    12GB is more than adequate for RAM. 6 to 8 seems to be the expected minimum by most, however even 4 still works good enough. Storage is debatable based on needs and 128 works well except for users with lots of files. At that point a micro SD card comes in handy.
    07-17-2020 01:59 PM
  24. cardboard60's Avatar
    12GB is more than adequate for RAM. 6 to 8 seems to be the expected minimum by most, however even 4 still works good enough. Storage is debatable based on needs and 128 works well except for users with lots of files. At that point a micro SD card comes in handy.
    I thought the note 20 wasn't gonna have a SD card.
    Only the plus and ultra was..
    Correct me if I'm wrong.
    07-18-2020 12:14 AM
  25. Mike Dee's Avatar
    I thought the note 20 wasn't gonna have a SD card.
    Only the plus and ultra was..
    Correct me if I'm wrong.
    This discussion is not about the Note 20
    07-18-2020 04:47 AM
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