1. ywenz's Avatar
    After watching that youtube clip on disabling the touchwiz launcher. It looks like you CAN INDEED run the vanilla android skin on the Epic?

    Why the hell none of the reviewers brought up this point yet all of them complained about TouchWiz?

    08-31-2010 04:07 PM
  2. ConceptVBS's Avatar
    Because they are ignorant. Simple as that.

    Now do you trust these "reviewers"?
    08-31-2010 04:39 PM
  3. caliskimmer's Avatar
    Because they are ignorant. Simple as that.

    Now do you trust these "reviewers"?
    I trust you more than those reviewers.
    08-31-2010 04:40 PM
  4. ywenz's Avatar
    yeah I guess that's what you get when you have "bloggers" do product reviews.

    A bunch of hacks.

    These experts of nothing, simple consumers are not suitable for product reviews requiring moderate technical knowledge.
    08-31-2010 04:43 PM
  5. caliskimmer's Avatar
    yeah I guess that's what you get when you have "bloggers" do product reviews.

    A bunch of hacks.

    These experts of nothing, simple consumers are not suitable for product reviews requiring moderate technical knowledge.
    Why don't the companies ask someone from the forums to do it? I know Phil does a review and his are excellent, but besides Phonedog and AndroidCentral, the reviews seem to be garbage (with the exception of Engadget that is only adequate).
    08-31-2010 04:52 PM
  6. ywenz's Avatar
    Why don't the companies ask someone from the forums to do it? I know Phil does a review and his are excellent, but besides Phonedog and AndroidCentral, the reviews seem to be garbage (with the exception of Engadget that is only adequate).
    Did any of them reveal/discover this important fact of this phone? or did they just do stupid unboxing segments(talking about the fancy ear buds), and dedicate half a paragraph on the USB door?
    08-31-2010 04:59 PM
  7. Cory Streater's Avatar
    For the record, Phil stated over and over that you could use the launcher of your choice, and that he didn't understand why people get so upset over Touchwiz.
    08-31-2010 05:07 PM
  8. caliskimmer's Avatar
    For the record, Phil stated over and over that you could use the launcher of your choice, and that he didn't understand why people get so upset over Touchwiz.
    I agree with him. Not only is Touchwiz not that big of a problem, but he did state that you can change the launcher to another one.
    08-31-2010 05:08 PM
  9. ywenz's Avatar
    I agree with him. Not only is Touchwiz not that big of a problem, but he did state that you can change the launcher to another one.
    I see. .then he be a competent reviewer.

    From all of the reviews out there the pictured painted on the industry was why would these manufactures lock you into their custom skin.. and that vanilla android would be awesome on the Epic 4G... what a joke
    08-31-2010 05:11 PM
  10. aristarchus's Avatar
    I just followed the directions on mine and disabled Touchwiz. Honestly, I don't think touchwiz is that bad at all, but it is really, really easy to disable it following the instructions in the video.
    08-31-2010 05:15 PM
  11. Q-fugee's Avatar
    For the record, Phil stated over and over that you could use the launcher of your choice, and that he didn't understand why people get so upset over Touchwiz.
    Here is/was the confusion: at the time of the pre-release review, the method of replacing TouchWiz was unclear:

    1) Run launcher of your choice. Yes, it replaces or runs on top of Touchwiz, but TW is still running in the background. This is a system hog on slower handhelds and no one knew if it'd be a problem on the Epic.

    2) Kill TW and change the default. Like in the posted video (thank you for the link). It was unclear if that method was available on the pre-release demo units that journalists got their hands on.

    What is still unclear from the posted video is whether or not this method sticks after a reboot, and if it will still be around after the first update. Also still unclear is if we'll need root to remove TW or make the configuration change survive a reboot.

    Still, very good news and thanks for sharing. Monkeying with launchers is my second-favorite thing to do behind monkeying with task killers.

    --Qfg
    08-31-2010 05:20 PM
  12. Smokexz's Avatar
    You lose 4 widget screens! Garbage!
    08-31-2010 08:10 PM
  13. caliskimmer's Avatar
    I see. .then he be a competent reviewer.

    From all of the reviews out there the pictured painted on the industry was why would these manufactures lock you into their custom skin.. and that vanilla android would be awesome on the Epic 4G... what a joke
    Vanilla would look interesting (in a good way) that's for sure.
    08-31-2010 08:12 PM
  14. Smokexz's Avatar
    Vanilla would look interesting (in a good way) that's for sure.
    I would not put on the Vanilla theme, I lose 4 home screens, I have a lot of widgets, and there is just not enough space on 3 screens. I hope Froyo fixes this though.
    08-31-2010 08:15 PM
  15. caliskimmer's Avatar
    LauncherPro Plus is freaking awesome! I get the little screen jump with a pinch on a home screen just like the Evo and I can resize my widgets! Man, that dev is a genius! With Beautiful Weather, this phone becomes even awesomer (I know not a word)!
    08-31-2010 08:18 PM
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