3 weeks with Android, but I miss iOS so much...(Update: I think though I will stay with Android)

[craftmatic35]

Re: 3 weeks with Android, but I miss iOS so much...

Looks like you are heavily invested in Apple's ecosystem. So it isn't surprising that you prefer the iPhone. If I was that invested I probably would stay with Apple as well.

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[petvas72]

Re: 3 weeks with Android, but I miss iOS so much...

Looks like you are heavily invested in Apple's ecosystem. So it isn't surprising that you prefer the iPhone. If I was that invested I probably would stay with Apple as well.

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All my friends are using Facetime for example. I am not using icloud though for PIM stuff, so I don't care about that kind of integration. Yesterday night I was sure I was going to return my One. Now I don't know. Using the One is a joy and I love BlinkFeed and the hardware design.

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[alyled]

Re: 3 weeks with Android, but I miss iOS so much...

I've already posted my reasons for the fact that I won't ever return to iPhone. But I will say that after using my M8 for a while now, (and loving it almost fully), that the IOS gallery is leaps and bounds better than the M8 native gallery app, IMO. I do miss that. I really have zero love for the M8 gallery.

 

[Soulstream]

Re: 3 weeks with Android, but I miss iOS so much...

You must understand that there is no best phone out there, just the best FOR YOU. I like the fact that I can change default applications and the diversity of OEMs. I know I moved from samsung to HTC and now to a Nexus5 before finding my fit. Maybe Android isn't for you or you just haven't found your right fit. Anyway, enjoy your iPhone 5s.

 

[bobbob1016]

Re: 3 weeks with Android, but I miss iOS so much...

So, why do I go back to the iPhone?

Many reasons...Android is certainly a good OS, but there are things that bother me and couldn't get used to them:
* App quality is most of the times worse than on iOS. There are some good apps out there though. An example of a whole app category where iOS is unbeatable: Calendar and Tasks apps..It's like night and day..
* The Google Play store cannot be compared to the AppStore...
*If you are not prepared to root your device, then Android OS gets also boring, as iOS...Maybe because both OS work pretty well...
*Notifications: The lock screen notifications of iOS are much better than any plugin or widget can accomplish on Android. Android does't natively support lock screen notifications, but there are widgets and apps that imitate iOS behavior...but they do not work as well as the original...
*Video playback support is not as good as on the iOS...I know there are many video players, but iOS offers much better compatibility with mp4 files. MKV files on the other hand play very well on Android too (you need an app on iOS for that..)
*The fact that Dropbox runs in the background on Android and saves taken pictures automatically is great, but on iOS we have Photostream that does the exact same thing, and is much better integrated in the OS..
*The lack of Mac integration can be frustrating at times...
* The OS is not as polished as iOS and looks worse too! I don't believe I am saying that, but iOS 7 is beautiful...
*No FaceTime and no iMessages...Hangouts is a joke of an application. I am sorry Google fans, but you haven't probably seen Messages and FaceTime working...It's like night and day

About the HTC One M8: It is a great device, has great screen (but with much worse color accuracy compared to the iPhone), has amazing speakers which I will really miss, but it is too big to carry around..After using it for almost three weeks, I can safely say that I don't want such a big phone...I don't want to always worry how I am going to carry it with me, or how I am going to hold it...I believe the current iPhone is a little bit small, so a size up to 4,7" (as a maximum), is ok. If the rumors are true, the next iPhone will offer a 4,7" size...

So, I ordered an iPhone 5S and it comes on Monday morning...Goodbye Android, I will not miss you.

1) GPlay gives more freedom, and doesn't force things on developers. That's a blessing and a curse.

2) True, GPlay has Apps+Media. This is pure opinion as I prefer GPlay to be honest.

3) Right out of the box, unrooted, I can install K9 Mail and let it get mail push mail. Apple doesn't allow that. I don't need to root to let other browsers get to 100%, but I did need to Jailbreak and install Nitrous to let Chrome access better Javascript.

4) This could be said to be opinion, as I don't like anyone picking up my phone being able to see my texts or calls, or that I have them. I can look at the notification bar, and my S4 does have SView, so I can see numbers of calls/texts there. WidgetLocker does this too.

5) Video playback is arguably better on Android as it can play more than MP4 and h.264. Android is more of a set it up thing, and iOS is more of a "You'll take what we give you and like it". No way you can get native mkv on iOS, but it works great on Android. Archos' player is great, as are others.

6) Can you natively pull Photostream photos up as actual files on any device? Or do you need Apple software (as in iPhoto*)? Can you view Photostream data on the web, without having to first share the stream?

7) There isn't any integration, it isn't meant to plug in, nor are iPhones anymore really. They took out the "Info" tab for the most part. You're meant to sync with iCloud on iOS and Google Services on Android. I have Google Services for everything, and iCloud for my iPhone syncing to the Mac I'm typing this on without a hitch. Have you tried Doubletwist?

8) This is opinion, but I do see what you mean.

9) Blame Tim Cook. Steve Jobs wanted iMessage/Facetime to be universal. But, I've heard horror stories of people getting out of iMessage/Facetime's death grip when switching to another carrier. Plus, why do I *need* to register iMessage/Facetime with a phone number? Why can't I just use it with my AppleID? Seems like a scummy thing to grab my number and not easily let go...

I like the bigger phone as I occasionally have to actually troubleshoot computers from my phone. Easier to see a PC desktop with a larger screen. This is opinion, and I do like the feel of an iPhone, I will admit that.

 

[petvas72]

Re: 3 weeks with Android, but I miss iOS so much...

1) GPlay gives more freedom, and doesn't force things on developers. That's a blessing and a curse.

2) True, GPlay has Apps+Media. This is pure opinion as I prefer GPlay to be honest.

3) Right out of the box, unrooted, I can install K9 Mail and let it get mail push mail. Apple doesn't allow that. I don't need to root to let other browsers get to 100%, but I did need to Jailbreak and install Nitrous to let Chrome access better Javascript.

4) This could be said to be opinion, as I don't like anyone picking up my phone being able to see my texts or calls, or that I have them. I can look at the notification bar, and my S4 does have SView, so I can see numbers of calls/texts there. WidgetLocker does this too.

5) Video playback is arguably better on Android as it can play more than MP4 and h.264. Android is more of a set it up thing, and iOS is more of a "You'll take what we give you and like it". No way you can get native mkv on iOS, but it works great on Android. Archos' player is great, as are others.

6) Can you natively pull Photostream photos up as actual files on any device? Or do you need Apple software (as in iPhoto*)? Can you view Photostream data on the web, without having to first share the stream?

7) There isn't any integration, it isn't meant to plug in, nor are iPhones anymore really. They took out the "Info" tab for the most part. You're meant to sync with iCloud on iOS and Google Services on Android. I have Google Services for everything, and iCloud for my iPhone syncing to the Mac I'm typing this on without a hitch. Have you tried Doubletwist?

8) This is opinion, but I do see what you mean.

9) Blame Tim Cook. Steve Jobs wanted iMessage/Facetime to be universal. But, I've heard horror stories of people getting out of iMessage/Facetime's death grip when switching to another carrier. Plus, why do I *need* to register iMessage/Facetime with a phone number? Why can't I just use it with my AppleID? Seems like a scummy thing to grab my number and not easily let go...

I like the bigger phone as I occasionally have to actually troubleshoot computers from my phone. Easier to see a PC desktop with a larger screen. This is opinion, and I do like the feel of an iPhone, I will admit that.

You can play mkv files on the iPhone, just not by default.
Push mail isn't an issue, notifications though are.

Doubletwist doesn't work for me. Badly written software and it doesn't sync with Aperture.

I don't care if I can export a file from photostream on ios. I just need to have my pictures available everywhere and photostream does that. How does Google + photo sync achieves that? It's half baked. Google is ignoring that people do use computers..People don't use Chrome as their main OS...

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[reeneebob]

Re: 3 weeks with Android, but I miss iOS so much...

Something I need to say though: I enjoyed the discussions on the Android forum, much better than on Apple forums, like Macrumors.
I understand being a fanboy, but people should always treat others with respect.
I love Apple, many would also call my a fanboy, but I always respect others and their opinions.

It's great we have choices.. Apple and Google, they both need each other. They need the competition, otherwise they become stale and they stop improving things.

I love my M8. It's the only phone good enough to get me to put down my gold 5S. That being said, when I swap my sim card back into my iPhone 5S for a few days? I remember why it is that, while I don't mind using android for a while (except anything with the name Samsung, I hate work for saddling me with a gs3 after owning one for two years), I always, ALWAYS, go back to an iPhone eventually.

I understand everything you're saying. I agree with much of it, and this is after my dalliances with the original Galaxy Vibrant (i9000M which I had to root and rom to make useable), Desire Z, GS3, GS4, LG Optimus and HTC M7.

 

[THARD11]

Re: 3 weeks with Android, but I miss iOS so much...

I guess I am kind of the opposite of you on this. I tried using the iPhone and just could not do it. I switched back to my Moto X after about 1 week. I use a Macbook Pro and iPad Air. The battery life was a killer for me and the lack of customization. I am not sure where you are coming from on the integration aspect. I use Google contacts and calendar and have had no problems syncing with the iPhone, Air, Macbook or Moto X. One thing that really bugs me with the Apple is the integration (or lack of) with AirDrop. I don't understand why you can't use Airdrop from your iPhone or iPad to your Macbook. I use BT to send files, music ect... from my Moto X to Macbook with no problems at all. I also had problems getting the iPhone to sync with wi-fi on many occasions and have not had this issue with my Moto X. I also think the screen size on the Moto X is perfect not too skinny like the iPhone (my opinion). I have also had the attachment problems and I use this often in my business. I know they are out there but I have not found any apps that are on IOS that I can't find an equivalent on Android. You are not going to go wrong with iPhone or Android its just what works best for each user. If the iPhone works best for you I don't blame you at all I would do the same thing.

 

[petvas72]

Re: 3 weeks with Android, but I miss iOS so much...

I need to thank the one that proposed Digical as a calendar app. I just installed it and it looks very nice..
I wish I could marry the features of both OSes...

I find it somehow hard to part from the M8..I didn't expect that, so I am still thinking about what to do here..

 

[LightaDroid]

Re: 3 weeks with Android, but I miss iOS so much...

You must understand that there is no best phone out there, just the best FOR YOU. I like the fact that I can change default applications and the diversity of OEMs. I know I moved from samsung to HTC and now to a Nexus5 before finding my fit. Maybe Android isn't for you or you just haven't found your right fit. Anyway, enjoy your iPhone 5s.

I have to agree with you.. Android isn't for everyone and everyone is for Android.!
I happen to think my perfect fit is many Android devices.
Me and Apple don't get along anymore. lol sure I wish there was a couple things different with Android.
But there is a lot more things that I wish were different Apple.
Finding the perfect fit is really what you need to find in your devices
hints the reason why there is some many companys with so many different phones.

Finding the perfect Device!

 

[Golfdriver97]

Re: 3 weeks with Android, but I miss iOS so much...

I need to thank the one that proposed Digical as a calendar app. I just installed it and it looks very nice..
I wish I could marry the features of both OSes...

I find it somehow hard to part from the M8..I didn't expect that, so I am still thinking about what to do here..

I have seen many other members who are in your position. After a short time, they can see both sides (like you do now) and are indecisive. Many of them gave Android another couple weeks, and they gave up on Apple. Others, still couldn't get totally into the OS, and went back. I would suggest giving it more time. Change is difficult for almost everyone, especially an OS.

Perhaps we can turn the thread around, and help you with any changes you would like to see on your device?

From an SOKP Nexus 5

 

[petvas72]

Re: 3 weeks with Android, but I miss iOS so much...

I have seen many other members who are in your position. After a short time, they can see both sides (like you do now) and are indecisive. Many of them gave Android another couple weeks, and they gave up on Apple. Others, still couldn't get totally into the OS, and went back. I would suggest giving it more time. Change is difficult for almost everyone, especially an OS.

Perhaps we can turn the thread around, and help you with any changes you would like to see on your device?

From an SOKP Nexus 5

My biggest issues with my HTC are:

• No way to automatically synchronize with Aperture for Mac. Now I just have to use import/export to copy pictures
• Lock screen notifications that work deeply integrated with the OS, with no screen overlapping when using a PIN to unlock the device..
• Lack of a quality Tasks app that syncs with Exchange. I have tried almost everything that is out there, but I am still not happy with the apps.
• I would like to have a different sound for incoming mails (I use Nine) as for SMSs (Hangouts)
• Ability to have a full backup/restore without the need for root permissions..
• I love my HTC, but sometimes it's just too big...(I know this cannot be changed )
• I am afraid that when a new OS update comes, that it won't be immediately available for my device...I like using things as soon as they are out. A google play edition M8 is not an option here in Germany..Only the Nexus line..Other Android phones are also no option, since I want a device that has at least the same build quality as an iPhone...
• Skype sucks big time on Android. Incoming calls do not work all the time, my video window cannot be resized, and the app isn't as good as on the iPhone.

I don't know how anybody could help me with the above issues..but I am open for suggestions!

Please always have in mind, I need solutions that work well in an integrated way. I want for example to be able to call someone that uses a Mac and a phone, not only Google users...

 

[pappy53]

Re: 3 weeks with Android, but I miss iOS so much...

I would like to be able to afford both, as I love both OS's! Then I could just switch the nano-sim between the Moto X and the iPhone. I have gone back and forth probably as much as anyone and still don't have a clear-cut preference, but I do seem to miss iOS a little more than Android, so at this time I have an iPhone 5. Both OS's have their pluses, and Android probably has more capabilities, but for 99% of the smartphone users either one will be great. One of the main things that I do lean heavily in Apple's favor is customer service. I have always dealt with carriers warranty coverage (which works fine), but for someone that buys an off-contract phone, I think that Apple is probably easier to deal with for quicker turnaround than a Samsung, HTC, etc. But it all comes down to what works best for each person, and in my case that seems to be both!

 

[petvas72]

Re: 3 weeks with Android, but I miss iOS so much...

From the time I posted the original article I have changed my mind, or better said, I am in a dilemma now...Using my M8 feels great, and today there were some app updates that make the whole experience better for me.
For example, Nine (my mail client), now has the option to change the color of all synced calendars. This is sth I can do easily on iOS and now I can do it with my Android device too.
One thing I miss a lot is reader mode in Safari. Chrome is not as good and using Dolphin wasn't my thing. I wish Google adds this option..

 

[Crosswhite17]

In reply to Kevin O'Quinn's post.

Its easy to attach photos to emails in ios. You just select the photo, hit the share button and choose email.

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[petvas72]

Re: 3 weeks with Android, but I miss iOS so much...

In reply to Kevin O'Quinn's post.

Its easy to attach photos to emails in ios. You just select the photo, hit the share button and choose email.

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Yes, it's easy, but try adding other files to a mail..Impossible.

 

[bobbob1016]

Re: 3 weeks with Android, but I miss iOS so much...

You can play mkv files on the iPhone, just not by default.
Push mail isn't an issue, notifications though are.

Doubletwist doesn't work for me. Badly written software and it doesn't sync with Aperture.

I don't care if I can export a file from photostream on ios. I just need to have my pictures available everywhere and photostream does that. How does Google + photo sync achieves that? It's half baked. Google is ignoring that people do use computers..People don't use Chrome as their main OS...

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I didn't mean this as a "how dare you prefer iOS" I meant it so anyone who stumbles upon this later sees from another POV, and to maybe provide some counterpoints.

1) I did say "No way you can get native mkv on iOS" as in yes with an App. Harder to go through iTunes to transfer it to your device though IMHO.

2) I'm not sure if you misread what push vs notifications were referring to. The notifications were the Lockscreen. Push was referring to "boring" as an unrooted Android is waaaaaaay more open (as in freedom) than an unjailbroken iOS device. My notifications line was that personally, I don't want to see my exact messages on my lockscreen for anyone to see. I know you can turn it off, but still.

3) It doesn't work for Aperture. I don't think it was meant to. You can drag and drop files and photos, no? Or export to iPhoto then bring them in? If not, you could do something Dropbox/Box.net/Onedrive/GoogleDrive related.

4) If you're at another computer, you have to install the iCloud Control Panel to view your photos... If you're on an Android, you can view your photos in *any* web browser. If you use Dropbox, you can view in *any* browser, *or* install Dropbox and get the same results (I'd say better as the iCloud Control Panel can mess with Outlook).

I think your 4th reply though was the one that clinches it. There is not one mobile platform for everyone. Personally, I *hate* iMessage/Facetime's forced grab of phone numbers, and can't stand having to install software to view my photos at a friend's house. I also don't see how it's innovation that I can only use built-in apps to their fullest, and non-native apps are basically second tier apps. For those reasons, Android is better for *me*. As you're already in Apple's world*, I don't think Android works for you, and iOS is what you should use.

*Aperture, and preference for syncing software instead of drag/drop.

Edit: Saw that you said this again about Aperture "No way to automatically synchronize with Aperture for Mac. Now I just have to use import/export to copy pictures" I think that's by design. Similar to how there are rumors of Microsoft in the 90's saying "The job isn't done until Lotus won't run", I highly doubt Apple would make it easy to get files from it to Android, or any other platform in that case.

 

[Westifire]

Re: 3 weeks with Android, but I miss iOS so much...

Disagree with most of your points but there's no changing your mind. I will say this: You have a Mac. You're already within that Apple ecosystem. Stick with iPhone.

 

[Aquila]

Re: 3 weeks with Android, but I miss iOS so much...

I don't care if I can export a file from photostream on ios. I just need to have my pictures available everywhere and photostream does that. How does Google + photo sync achieves that? It's half baked. Google is ignoring that people do use computers..People don't use Chrome as their main OS...

Google+ AutoBackup photos are available on all devices that have G+ installed (Android and iOS) and from any browser via this site: https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos. There are also desktop applications for both Windows and Mac.

I'd challenge the last point pretty strongly as well, there are a lot of people that use ChromeOS and/or live in their browsers predominately when they are on a different OS when not on mobile. Those two things are more similar than not and it may be important to realize that while we seek to crack the internet open to consumer choice and a broader market offering from currently silo'd experiences.

Here's the main distinction for me from the cross-platform perspective: With Android, almost everything that I do on my phone or tablet has a direct way of interacting with everything I do on any desktop. Google's services are available from any desktop/laptop OS via the browser, if not more dedicated apps as well and many are available on iOS too. This means you can have an Android phone, an iPad a Chromebook, a Windows 8 desktop at home and a Mac Pro at work and all (or most) of your Google stuff is already integrated across all of those devices. Going the other direction, Apple's services sync great with Apple devices, and it is possible, but often difficult and counter-intuitive to try to access your content, etc that lives in their ecosystem on devices that are not created by Apple.

This isn't just an Apple problem, it's something we recognize in Windows and even with Samsung in Andriod and Tizen (see the smart-watch fiasco) - if your stuff requires more of your stuff to work, that's not cool. Ultimately I believe consumers should be able to buy whatever device they want and be able to access their online lives across all of them - and have a good experience doing so. Obviously that won't necessarily be painless, but that does seem to be the approach that Google takes in supporting all of these operating systems and trying to make their services as accessible and ubiquitous as possible.

 

[trekk]

Re: 3 weeks with Android, but I miss iOS so much...

All I can tell you buddy is you have to use Android and understand that it will never work as IOS. They are 2 different operating systems each one has its advantages. I find IOS better implemented for Apple users makes everything a breeze for set up and all. I hate it that it's completely closed down and have very little choices outside what Apple choses.

Android for example I just love the fact that I can change the keyboard. I love the sharing function from anywhere where apps can tie into it. I love Google now personally. I use Evernote for all tasks and note taking and syncs everywhere. I also find that Android notification system destroys IOS. I went back to IOS when the iPhone 5 came out took me 4 days went back to Android. I could not type on the iPhone after being used to SwiftKey.

With Android there is always a fix for wtv issue you encounter.

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