Re: Nexus 6P Camera Performance
My experience had been amazing. Fast camera focus...fast shot taking. Very impressed with the camera.
My experience had been amazing. Fast camera focus...fast shot taking. Very impressed with the camera.
6P Camera - Not THAT Impressed?
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you guys haven't been using the camera with flash have you? there's something off with the timing or the led is too dim. barely lights objects in the foreground and the background is always just super dark
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I like Leo and actually watched this entire netcast since you posted the link. What is irresponsible about it is the title and description on that web page. Near the end of the cast, he resets the phone which wiped out all the other apps he installed and then the camera worked great. He even says it is working great. So it pretty much leads one to the conclusion that he installed something that caused the problem (probably some app that hasn't fully embraced Marshmallow).
Setting that aside and just to comment on the topic of this thread, I wouldn't call the camera "super fast" but it's within what I would consider reasonable speed for a phone camera. I think my LG G3 was a little faster. I am actually a little surprised that it isn't superfast considering this is a Nexus using Google's camera software.
I like Leo and actually watched this entire netcast since you posted the link. What is irresponsible about it is the title and description on that web page. Near the end of the cast, he resets the phone which wiped out all the other apps he installed and then the camera worked great. He even says it is working great. So it pretty much leads one to the conclusion that he installed something that caused the problem (probably some app that hasn't fully embraced Marshmallow).
Setting that aside and just to comment on the topic of this thread, I wouldn't call the camera "super fast" but it's within what I would consider reasonable speed for a phone camera. I think my LG G3 was a little faster. I am actually a little surprised that it isn't superfast considering this is a Nexus using Google's camera software.
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As someone who's watched/listened to the majority of Leo's broadcasts for many years, it's pretty evident that he's getting older, enjoying life more, and pretty much phoning it in these days. It gets more and more difficult to see his increasingly superficial evaluations as meaningful.
As someone who's watched/listened to the majority of Leo's broadcasts for many years, it's pretty evident that he's getting older, enjoying life more, and pretty much phoning it in these days. It gets more and more difficult to see his increasingly superficial evaluations as meaningful.
Re: Nexus 6P Camera Performance
This phone has a solid camera. As good as Sammy? Perhaps not, but very close. Which means that for nearly every user it will be perfect. For Nexus diehards it's a bloody revelation.
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This phone has a solid camera. As good as Sammy? Perhaps not, but very close. Which means that for nearly every user it will be perfect. For Nexus diehards it's a bloody revelation.
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I am very happy overall, especially with low light pics. Start up and overall camera app is very responsive. I have had a few occasions where the app has hung up a bit when starting the app and quickly changing to landscape mode, but its not consistent.
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I am very happy overall, especially with low light pics. Start up and overall camera app is very responsive. I have had a few occasions where the app has hung up a bit when starting the app and quickly changing to landscape mode, but its not consistent.
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After using it for about a week now, I think the camera is amazing (for what it is). Zero lag in the camera app, and the low-light photos are without question better than my Galaxy S6. In good lighting, the edge goes to the Galaxy S6 but only due to slightly more resolution - the quality of the photo is the same otherwise. The HDR+ for low light shots is just amazing. I am an avid photographer with thousands invested in full-frame camera gear, so I look for things that many people probably don't care about, and I am impressed (again, considering it's a cell phone). It's noticeably better than the iPhone 6S camera I have used.
After using it for about a week now, I think the camera is amazing (for what it is). Zero lag in the camera app, and the low-light photos are without question better than my Galaxy S6. In good lighting, the edge goes to the Galaxy S6 but only due to slightly more resolution - the quality of the photo is the same otherwise. The HDR+ for low light shots is just amazing. I am an avid photographer with thousands invested in full-frame camera gear, so I look for things that many people probably don't care about, and I am impressed (again, considering it's a cell phone). It's noticeably better than the iPhone 6S camera I have used.
Mine works just fine. I also know the camera meters off of wherever you tap the screen for exposure. Flashes on phones have **** for range, so they aren't going to light up much beyond a few feet in front of you anyhow. Flash effectiveness is also tied to the aperture (locked wide open at F2) and also the ISO. The higher the ISO the camera chooses, the greater distance you will get out of the flash because the image sensor is more sensitive to light. Shutter speed has no effect on flash power. Low ISO is going to make for a very dark background in a flash shot, because your primary source of light is the LED flash, and the background will be very underexposed. It's a camera phone at the end of the day - I have found it to be no different (except better) than any previous phone I've used in that regard.
The phones camera is ranked very high in mobile phone cameras by DXO labs, actually the third among all mobile phones. They are professional and they are quite fair since they don't own any of the product in the list.
However
1. While professionals tweaks the phone to get the best picture out of the phone (tripod,lighting,time to focus etc). Normal users just tap and go. This means, as amazing as the camera itself is, under some condition it will fail you. A lot of ppl will note it as bad photography skill but I am quite certain there will be plenty claiming the camera to be mediocre since its often "blurry/washed out".
2. Most professional photographers shoots uses a tripod and if not, they trained themselves to have steady hands. Again, as normal users, a steady/stable environment to take the shot might be hard or even impossible. While some camera app has manual setting to help in this situation and other apps has the capability to fix it post shot, 6P won't with its default settings.
For most people, the camera will be great. For photo enthusiasts its a darn good one for mobile phones. For iphone users, it will always be blurry/washed out etc. For honest Samsung/Lg/Moto users it will be on par if not better (definitely better in low light)
For me, it has been pretty good and my trick is to take that extra second or few as if you are holding a Nikkon. For those complaining OIS, wait for better EIS or get a Go Pro
However
1. While professionals tweaks the phone to get the best picture out of the phone (tripod,lighting,time to focus etc). Normal users just tap and go. This means, as amazing as the camera itself is, under some condition it will fail you. A lot of ppl will note it as bad photography skill but I am quite certain there will be plenty claiming the camera to be mediocre since its often "blurry/washed out".
2. Most professional photographers shoots uses a tripod and if not, they trained themselves to have steady hands. Again, as normal users, a steady/stable environment to take the shot might be hard or even impossible. While some camera app has manual setting to help in this situation and other apps has the capability to fix it post shot, 6P won't with its default settings.
For most people, the camera will be great. For photo enthusiasts its a darn good one for mobile phones. For iphone users, it will always be blurry/washed out etc. For honest Samsung/Lg/Moto users it will be on par if not better (definitely better in low light)
For me, it has been pretty good and my trick is to take that extra second or few as if you are holding a Nikkon. For those complaining OIS, wait for better EIS or get a Go Pro
while you say that, pictures with flash have turned out amazingly with the S6, object well lit as well as the entire background decently visible. Even the Oneplus One's flash pictures turn out decently, properly flashing the area and taking the shot. I'll post a few later when I get a chance to highlight what I'm talking about.
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I went from an S6 to a NP and was able to use them side by side. The camera (and the app) on the 6P are simply not as good. I think the 6P is probably the 2nd best android camera out there right now...but it's a distant 2nd to the S6. The S6 camera, app, and quick launch just provide an all around better experience - to say nothing of just producing "better" pictures.
A good example is the "Selective Focus" feature on the S6... you can get some amazing shots with that that blow the "Lense Blur" of the 6P away. In both quality and rendering times.
That being said - The difference between the two was not enough for me to keep the S6 and send the 6P back. The S6 has so many other issues that I gladly gave up the perfect camera for an overall better phone experience. The biggest one being that the battery life was so horrible that I was afraid to use it unless I Was near a charger. So I would end up NOT taking pictures because I was trying to save battery life...lol
I went from an S6 to a NP and was able to use them side by side. The camera (and the app) on the 6P are simply not as good. I think the 6P is probably the 2nd best android camera out there right now...but it's a distant 2nd to the S6. The S6 camera, app, and quick launch just provide an all around better experience - to say nothing of just producing "better" pictures.
A good example is the "Selective Focus" feature on the S6... you can get some amazing shots with that that blow the "Lense Blur" of the 6P away. In both quality and rendering times.
That being said - The difference between the two was not enough for me to keep the S6 and send the 6P back. The S6 has so many other issues that I gladly gave up the perfect camera for an overall better phone experience. The biggest one being that the battery life was so horrible that I was afraid to use it unless I Was near a charger. So I would end up NOT taking pictures because I was trying to save battery life...lol
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that is so weird - I'm blown away by the S6's battery life compared to my 6p... just goes to show I guess the variance of the devices out there
that is so weird - I'm blown away by the S6's battery life compared to my 6p... just goes to show I guess the variance of the devices out there
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I have another line with an S6 Edge + and find the 6P's camera definitely in the same league. If pressured to pick I'd say the S6's camera is slightly better, but I don't feel any need to switch to it if I am using the 6P (which I do almost all the time these days) and want to take a few pics.
I have another line with an S6 Edge + and find the 6P's camera definitely in the same league. If pressured to pick I'd say the S6's camera is slightly better, but I don't feel any need to switch to it if I am using the 6P (which I do almost all the time these days) and want to take a few pics.
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The 6P has quick launch as well, and it's just as fast if not faster than the S6 (I use an S6 side by side with the 6P and have done extensive testing). Some review sites commented it was even quicker as well.
The S6 app has a few more features, but there is nothing really lacking from the stock google app except a manual or "pro" mode. Stills, selfie cam, slo-mo, video, etc. is all intuitive and easily accessable. Pano mode is better on the S6. Apps like Pro Shot or Manual Camera unlock more features for both.
The tiny sensors used in these cameras ensure that pretty much everything is in focus all the time, even at F1.9 (GS6) and F2.0 (6P). The selective focus/ lens blur is just a software effect, and other apps can do that, as can computer software. As someone used to "real" background blur on actual full-frame cameras, I find the simulated effect ugly (purely subjective of course). Usually when you're using your phone as a camera, you want more things in focus. F2.0 on these little sensors is roughly equivalent to around F11 (from a depth of field perspective, not a light gathering perspective) on a full-frame camera to give you an idea of why everything is always in decent focus with tiny sensors.
HDR+ is unquestionably better on the 6P for low-light. It simply takes better low light shots. The S6 does the HDR faster (instantly), but it is more for high contrast scenes rather than low light. The 6P is definitely better in low light, and it hangs on to color accuracy longer at the higher ISOs with less noise. Outdoors in bright light, the S6 gets the edge in resolution only, the quality of the image capture is the same on both cameras. The S6 has a few other tricks such as tracking autofocus which can be helpful for all the parents trying to keep up with their kids. Optical stabilization is a plus on the S6, but it mostly helps for video capture. The videos I took handheld with the 6P were plenty stable as well, but I give the edge to the optical stabilization still.
I agree some of the things you say but I do not agree that it is a "distant" second. I would say they are equal, because they have different strengths, and overall they are both objectively the best cameras on any smartphone at the moment. DXO labs doesn't think it's a distant second either.
The S6 battery life is actually pretty decent (on my copy anyway). The 6P's is flat out incredible though so the S6 doesn't even come close in that department. The Note is a better comparison for battery life.
The 6P has quick launch as well, and it's just as fast if not faster than the S6 (I use an S6 side by side with the 6P and have done extensive testing). Some review sites commented it was even quicker as well.
The S6 app has a few more features, but there is nothing really lacking from the stock google app except a manual or "pro" mode. Stills, selfie cam, slo-mo, video, etc. is all intuitive and easily accessable. Pano mode is better on the S6. Apps like Pro Shot or Manual Camera unlock more features for both.
The tiny sensors used in these cameras ensure that pretty much everything is in focus all the time, even at F1.9 (GS6) and F2.0 (6P). The selective focus/ lens blur is just a software effect, and other apps can do that, as can computer software. As someone used to "real" background blur on actual full-frame cameras, I find the simulated effect ugly (purely subjective of course). Usually when you're using your phone as a camera, you want more things in focus. F2.0 on these little sensors is roughly equivalent to around F11 (from a depth of field perspective, not a light gathering perspective) on a full-frame camera to give you an idea of why everything is always in decent focus with tiny sensors.
HDR+ is unquestionably better on the 6P for low-light. It simply takes better low light shots. The S6 does the HDR faster (instantly), but it is more for high contrast scenes rather than low light. The 6P is definitely better in low light, and it hangs on to color accuracy longer at the higher ISOs with less noise. Outdoors in bright light, the S6 gets the edge in resolution only, the quality of the image capture is the same on both cameras. The S6 has a few other tricks such as tracking autofocus which can be helpful for all the parents trying to keep up with their kids. Optical stabilization is a plus on the S6, but it mostly helps for video capture. The videos I took handheld with the 6P were plenty stable as well, but I give the edge to the optical stabilization still.
I agree some of the things you say but I do not agree that it is a "distant" second. I would say they are equal, because they have different strengths, and overall they are both objectively the best cameras on any smartphone at the moment. DXO labs doesn't think it's a distant second either.
The S6 battery life is actually pretty decent (on my copy anyway). The 6P's is flat out incredible though so the S6 doesn't even come close in that department. The Note is a better comparison for battery life.
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Here are two shots from my recent visit to Prohibition Bar in Houston TX. I think its all about the camera application still. The shots I took with the default Google camera app had too slow a shutter speed for the ISO setting it picked resulting in blurs and streaks. I used Manual Camera for both of these shots and the Nexus 6p does really great!
Here are two shots from my recent visit to Prohibition Bar in Houston TX. I think its all about the camera application still. The shots I took with the default Google camera app had too slow a shutter speed for the ISO setting it picked resulting in blurs and streaks. I used Manual Camera for both of these shots and the Nexus 6p does really great!
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If your shutter speed was too slow for the ISO setting, your image would be very over exposed. If your shutter speed was too fast for the ISO setting, your image would be very underexposed. The camera tries to calculate an ideal exposure based on the light meter for the scene. The app cannot simply pick an incorrect shutter speed for the ISO setting without also severely over or under exposing the image at the same time. If the image was reasonably well exposed, there would have been no issue with the settings the camera chose. The camera also seems to spot-meter where ever you tap to focus, which has it's advantages and disadvantages.
Low-light shots with moving subjects are the most difficult to capture, even with thousands of dollars of professional camera gear. If you look at the details of the shot, it will tell you your shutter speed if you're curious.
If your shutter speed was too slow for the ISO setting, your image would be very over exposed. If your shutter speed was too fast for the ISO setting, your image would be very underexposed. The camera tries to calculate an ideal exposure based on the light meter for the scene. The app cannot simply pick an incorrect shutter speed for the ISO setting without also severely over or under exposing the image at the same time. If the image was reasonably well exposed, there would have been no issue with the settings the camera chose. The camera also seems to spot-meter where ever you tap to focus, which has it's advantages and disadvantages.
Low-light shots with moving subjects are the most difficult to capture, even with thousands of dollars of professional camera gear. If you look at the details of the shot, it will tell you your shutter speed if you're curious.
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WIth zero 3rd party apps installed I couldn't make it 7 hours on my S6. And thats with maybe an hour screen time
WIth zero 3rd party apps installed I couldn't make it 7 hours on my S6. And thats with maybe an hour screen time
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Sorry, didn't mean to imply 6P didn't have quick launch. I've just found the S6 to be faster are more ergonomic. Maybe due to the button placement.
I had two S6s (first one I broke...thank you insurance!) and both of them just gave me better camera experiences than the 6P does. I work for a fire department and take a lot of photos in various lighting conditions with and without movement and the 6P does fine...just not quite as well as the S6 for me.
Sorry, didn't mean to imply 6P didn't have quick launch. I've just found the S6 to be faster are more ergonomic. Maybe due to the button placement.
I had two S6s (first one I broke...thank you insurance!) and both of them just gave me better camera experiences than the 6P does. I work for a fire department and take a lot of photos in various lighting conditions with and without movement and the 6P does fine...just not quite as well as the S6 for me.
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