808 vs 810 processor (for someone stupid like me)???

[jamielov]

For someone like me who just enjoys a well running phone that will not demolish a battery (oh the nightmares of my Moto Droid 4) what are the differences since it was debated back and forth and LG decided to go with the 808 processor vs the 810. Ive read about some overheating issue, but for regular real life use, is there anything lacking in the 808 that the 810 could have offered that will upset simply a common phone user? I cant tell if this helps or detracts from battery life, performance, etc.

Thanks!!!!

 

[Golfdriver97]

For someone like me who just enjoys a well running phone that will not demolish a battery (oh the nightmares of my Moto Droid 4) what are the differences since it was debated back and forth and LG decided to go with the 808 processor vs the 810. Ive read about some overheating issue, but for regular real life use, is there anything lacking in the 808 that the 810 could have offered that will upset simply a common phone user? I cant tell if this helps or detracts from batter life, performance, etc.

Thanks!!!!

I couldn't begin to answer...so don't feel so bad. I have shown this to a couple guys who are much better with chipsets.

 

[LeoRex]

The 808 is a 6 core SOC... Basically 2 fewer of the 'big' chips that are in the 810.

As for heat, I would presume that it would be less of a problem since there are fewer cores to generate waste heat.

We'll see.

 

[UJ95x]

Other than that it should be the same in "real world" use. You still get an ARM v8 SoC so hopefully that will help if you encrypt your phone. Past phones take a big hit in performance when that's turned on. If it manages to do that and not overheat like the 810, I'd say it was a good decision

 

[Tsepz_GP]

The differences between 808 and 810 are greater than just Cores.

- The 808 has a weaker GPU(Graphics Processing Unit), its GPU is even weaker than the Adreno420 in the 805 used by Note 4 and Nexus 6.

- The 808 uses DDR3 memory while 810 uses the newer and faster DDR4

- The 810 can encode and decode H.265 HEVC video, the 808 can only decode it.

Snapdragon 808 chosen for the LG G4 before the 810 issues, claims Qualcomm

Now what will be interesting is how the 808 handles and whether or not it heats up as fast as the 810, one thing I found hilarious was LG claiming they customised 808 to run as well as the Samsung Exynos7420, the 7420 has the same build as the 810, but far less heating up and in a smaller 14nm design, I think we can safely assume the 7420 will be the best between the two until Qualcomm get the 820 out.

What worries me with the 808 is that GPU.

 

[UJ95x]

The differences between 808 and 810 are greater than just Cores.

- The 808 has a weaker GPU(Graphics Processing Unit), its GPU is even weaker than the Adreno420 in the 805 used by Note 4 and Nexus 6.

- The 808 uses DDR3 memory while 810 uses the newer and faster DDR4

- The 810 can encode and decode H.265 HEVC video, the 808 can only decode it.

Snapdragon 808 chosen for the LG G4 before the 810 issues, claims Qualcomm

Now what will be interesting is how the 808 handles and whether or not it heats up as fast as the 810, one thing I found hilarious was LG claiming they customised 808 to run as well as the Samsung Exynos7420, the 7420 has the same build as the 810, but far less heating up and in a smaller 14nm design, I think we can safely assume the 7420 will be the best between the two until Qualcomm get the 820 out.

What worries me with the 808 is that GPU.

True, but with the 808 running cooler most of the time, the graphics performance should be pretty close to the 810. The 7420 is definitely the SoC to beat. And Samsung says the next Exynos (Codenamed M1) will be 45% faster than that. They're on a roll right now

 

[LeoRex]

True, but with the 808 running cooler most of the time, the graphics performance should be pretty close to the 810.

Yep.... that's the question. As is the performance of the 810 has been pretty poor since the thing gets throttled to death not long after you put the spurs to it. If the 808 doesn't need to be held back as badly (or as quickly), it could very well end up performing better than the 810 for most real-world applications. But still, QC kind of whiffed with this generation. We'll have to wait until they get Sammy to build their 820 chips before they'll get back on track again.

 

[doggy2965]

I don't think any phone is using the full 8 cores anyway 808 is supposed to be better on battery but as usual the test will be when the device is available and we can see how it handles

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[LeoRex]

Well... no... the goal with all those cores is to have the 2 (or in the 810's case, 4) 'big' cores do the heavy lifting and the 4 'small' cores come in when its light duty work and some power can be saved. They aren't all there to just chug away all at once. I was looking at some of the CPU benchmark tests of the 810 and its a nightmare to look at.

First generation chipsets are sometimes bad news. The 810, so far, looks like it might be a mess. I am hoping that the 808 is free of the same problems.

 

[trivor]

Actually, there are very few applications that can/will use all 4 cores. If the two Big cores can run at full speed most of the time it should benchmark better than the 810 since it starts throttling almost as soon as you start the big Cores. I don't think we'll have a good sense for this until the Tech sites have production hardware in hand. It may be another one of those instances where AC may have to rely on benchmark tools to see where throttling occurs and how aggressively it throttles. I believe it will compete very well.

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[UJ95x]

Actually, there are very few applications that can/will use all 4 cores. If the two Big cores can run at full speed most of the time it should benchmark better than the 810 since it starts throttling almost as soon as you start the big Cores. I don't think we'll have a good sense for this until the Tech sites have production hardware in hand. It may be another one of those instances where AC may have to rely on benchmark tools to see where throttling occurs and how aggressively it throttles. I believe it will compete very well.

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ArsTechnica already did a test. 810 gets heavily throttled. Peaking a lot lower, and for longer periods of time than other SoCs

 

[LeoRex]

ArsTechnica already did a test. 810 gets heavily throttled. Peaking a lot lower, and for longer periods of time than other SoCs

Yep... the tests basically said that had the when it isn't throttled to death, the 810 would be faster than the 808... but the thing gets stepped WAAAY down almost the instant it starts being used... and the end result is that the 808, which doesn't get choked to death, ends up being faster than the 810.

 

[Fedginator]

Not really. Both a powerful enough to do pretty much anything on a phone. The 810 has fast charging (if supported), but other than that - no.

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