A knock off third party app that mimics Doze is available in the Google play store (third party app)

[billykac]

Hi, I'm the developer of Doze and ShutApp. Thank you all for discussing Doze here and I want to say something:
1. For unrooted devices, VPN is the only way to block data. So this is one of those things we (or any others) have no alternative.
2. In Google's Doze mode, network access is blocked; wake lock is ignored; alarms are suspended. While our Doze just blocks data flow.
In most cases, however, apps cannot do anything without network connection. We can reach the same result in both ways.
3. Why we developed Doze app even though all of us know Android 6 has the new feature?
Google's Doze is a very nice feature but it's too hard to get into the mode. Imagine a day I'm hanging out and I'm walking all the way, I can't get into Google's Doze then. In my point of view, that's one of the cases that we need battery lasting as long as possible. That's why we develop Doze that needs to set up VPN and develop other features like active list, aggressive mode, Charge/Wi-Fi preferred mode...
20% of our user base for Doze app are Android 6.0 users. It says that our Doze works better than Google's Doze for them.
4. Great to see that we have similar apps like dozzzer app, with whom we share the same purpose - battery saving. Battery performance is always a problem for Android system, and we hope that Google can do something and make a world without battery saving apps.

Thanks!

It's awesome that we have the Devs of two leading apps weighing-in here.

For me, I'd still like my unanswered question addressed - security and privacy.

If I am running a VPN locally, especially a VPN instance initiated by an app developed by 3rd party Dev, aren't there additional inherent risks here? Isn't all of my traffic being routed through a new single point inserted in my data transmission path that can monitor or alter my data?

Just trying to figure out how much security/privacy exposure I want to incur.

 

[Yirgalab]

We're using VPN for blocking data, not upload to our server. Our App(doze) will decide which App's data should block and which should let it through, not to look at the specific content (most of them are encrypted) .

There will be potential risks if you using any VPN. In fact, we do not want to use the VPN, but this is the only way to block data for battery saving.

I hope you can understand.

 

[Yirgalab]

Thanks!

It's awesome that we have the Devs of two leading apps weighing-in here.

For me, I'd still like my unanswered question addressed - security and privacy.

If I am running a VPN locally, especially a VPN instance initiated by an app developed by 3rd party Dev, aren't there additional inherent risks here? Isn't all of my traffic being routed through a new single point inserted in my data transmission path that can monitor or alter my data?

Just trying to figure out how much security/privacy exposure I want to incur.

We're using VPN for blocking data, not upload to our server. Our App(doze) will decide which App's data should block and which should let it through, not to look at the specific content (most of them are encrypted) .

There will be potential risks if you using any VPN. In fact, we do not want to use the VPN, but this is the only way to block data for battery saving.

I hope you can understand.

 

[billykac]

We're using VPN for blocking data, not upload to our server. Our App(doze) will decide which App's data should block and which should let it through, not to look at the specific content (most of them are encrypted) .

There will be potential risks if you using any VPN. In fact, we do not want to use the VPN, but this is the only way to block data for battery saving.

I hope you can understand.

Thanks for that informative and timely response.
-bk

**Update: I installed Doze and am giving it a go. I'll report back on my real-world battery savings.

 

[billykac]

Reporting back...

Could be my own shortcomings, but I just can't get past running a local VPN. I used Doze for a couple of days and just uninstalled it. I've been working in tech for decades, I know very well how VPN's work, and for me, I am just not comfortable with it.

Both Doze and Dozzzer are highly-rated apps and have many happy users. So for those who are happy to use these apps, I think that's great. For me, I'll pass.

 

[Geoff Ferdon]

Hello Petr,

Nice job on Dozzzer. This is surely very simple, but I can't find where to exclude apps from the VPN. My wireless provider is uses primarily wifi and so I want to exclude their connection app from being blocked.

It seems like the way to do it would be to manually enable VPN using the Dozzzer app and then go to VPN settings in Android, but when I go there no VPN is listed even though the little VPN "key" icon is showing at the top.

Thank you!
-Geoff

 

[Bart Reunes]

Is there one of your apps capable of restoring the previously used VPN? (Like NoRoot Firewall)

 

[Eljo Morpurgo]

I do know nothing about this but have some question.

I think battery is consumed when app goes to work. So before sending data over the antennas it's using battery to prepare this action. Now the action will be blocked by 'Doze x' so battery consumption should be less. But doesn't the app expects an answer because it has send a request?. Unfortunately an answer is not received by the app. Will it not cycle a new request?

Now my questions:
Will apps that do not get a response create extra actions to get a response that create more battery consumption.?

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Using a VPN is always a scary thing for users. Except for streaming Illegal stuff, than everyone wants a VPN. .

Normally If I use A VPN (and not for illegal purposes) I can't reach my Onkyo Surround set. Now with this one I can, Is there an explanation for this or is the program not working on my phone? How do I check this?

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I installed it (Doze - Yirga Lab) and will inform of my findings.

Kind regards.