A way to update apps that have been put to deep sleep?

[KupKrazy]

I really like the feature that puts apps that are unused for a while to deep sleep, but the annoyance there is that when I do run that app, and there is an update to that app, I am often forced to update that app at that time. It's annoying because of that extra time needed now to use that app.

Is there any way to update all apps, including those that are in deep sleep - rather than have to actually use that app before it will be recognized as needing an update? I haven't found a way and going to the app settings there is no way seemingly to set to update the app while in deep sleep.

I want to keep these apps in deep sleep, but also would like the apps updated where there are updates.

 

[Laura Knotek]

Are these from Play Store or Galaxy Store?

 

[SpookDroid]

The only way of doing it is to remove that app from the 'Deep Sleep' list (and unfortunately this has to be done per app). Sleeping apps do receive updates automatically (albeit more sporadically), but deep-sleeping apps do not (think of it as disabling a system app; it is not uninstalled, but everything about it is inert).

 

[joeldf]

I noticed this with Play Store apps on my Samsung. Hadn't paid attention to Galaxy Store provided apps as I rarely check it.

 

[KupKrazy]

Are these from Play Store or Galaxy Store?

Play Store, but I think it's actually any app since it looks like the OS is putting it into deep sleep and Google Play Store can't detect that it needs an update.

 

[KupKrazy]

The only way of doing it is to remove that app from the 'Deep Sleep' list (and unfortunately this has to be done per app). Sleeping apps do receive updates automatically (albeit more sporadically), but deep-sleeping apps do not (think of it as disabling a system app; it is not uninstalled, but everything about it is inert).

This is what I suspected and that being the reason why the Play Store won't detect an update to the app. Thanks for confirming!

 

[SpookDroid]

This is what I suspected and that being the reason why the Play Store won't detect an update to the app. Thanks for confirming!

Yup. I wish Samsung had an option to disable deep-sleep while keeping the sleep optimization instead of an 'all on/all off' switch, but oh well, at least you CAN disable deep sleep for each app.

 

[Easycure1974]

You can install Aurora Store and activate the setting for it to update deactivated apps. Working great for me

Aurora Store | F-Droid - Free and Open Source Android App Repository

An unofficial FOSS client to Google Play with an elegant design and privacy

f-droid.org

 

[mustang7757]

So far from what I seen deep sleeping apps get updated on mine , that feature just prevent notification for the app in that state so it's not running but shouldn't prevent from updating when available .

 

[SpookDroid]

So far from what I seen deep sleeping apps get updated on mine , that feature just prevent notification for the app in that state so it's not running but shouldn't prevent from updating when available .

That is correct (although sleeping apps may also delay updates, they would, eventually, get them within the week). However, DEEP sleep apps are basically disabled apps, so the system by default doesn't include them in the app list (thus, no automatic updates until they are re-enabled).

 

[rvbfan]

Just curious, why would you want to update them. Seems pointless. Once you wake them you can update and use but in the mean time I wouldn't give them a second thought.
In my opinion, if you are using apps in deep sleep enough for this to be an issue. Maybe they shouldn't be.
I know with Samsung you can turn off auto deep sleep.

 

[mustang7757]

That is correct (although sleeping apps may also delay updates, they would, eventually, get them within the week). However, DEEP sleep apps are basically disabled apps, so the system by default doesn't include them in the app list (thus, no automatic updates until they are re-enabled).

Hmm might be right, have to look further into it.

 

[KupKrazy]

Just curious, why would you want to update them. Seems pointless. Once you wake them you can update and use but in the mean time I wouldn't give them a second thought.
In my opinion, if you are using apps in deep sleep enough for this to be an issue. Maybe they shouldn't be.
I know with Samsung you can turn off auto deep sleep.

Because it's an annoyance to have to update the app right at the point of trying to use the app. Sometimes some apps just can't be used until updated and it's usually at an undesirable time for me.

 

[Easycure1974]

Because it's an annoyance to have to update the app right at the point of trying to use the app. Sometimes some apps just can't be used until updated and it's usually at an undesirable time for me.

Exactly my reason also. Aurora Store works great, often finding updates earlier than they are found in Play Store

 

[KupKrazy]

Exactly my reason also. Aurora Store works great, often finding updates earlier than they are found in Play Store

Do you know if the Aurora Store gets its apps from the Play Store? Or is it its own repository of apps? I read that it was a front end of the Play Store so that makes me think the apps themselves are still pulled from the App Store. I can't seem to find that info. But you are right - I took a look and sure enough there is an option to include disabled apps for updates. I turned that on and jeez, I have (ahem) well over a hundred apps that are "disabled" and out of date. But just unsure where the apps are coming from and whether or not there is a chance the apps could be hacked.

 

[Easycure1974]

Do you know if the Aurora Store gets its apps from the Play Store? Or is it its own repository of apps? I read that it was a front end of the Play Store so that makes me think the apps themselves are still pulled from the App Store. I can't seem to find that info. But you are right - I took a look and sure enough there is an option to include disabled apps for updates. I turned that on and jeez, I have (ahem) well over a hundred apps that are "disabled" and out of date. But just unsure where the apps are coming from and whether or not there is a chance the apps could be hacked.

It fetches the update from the Play Store. It is just a bit better displaying that an update is available. Often it finds update that is not showing up in Play Store if you just check för updates. But if you open the applications own page in Play Store an update can be available but not showing in the update list.

 

[MysticMetal]

You can install Aurora Store and activate the setting for it to update deactivated apps. Working great for me

Aurora Store | F-Droid - Free and Open Source Android App Repository

An unofficial FOSS client to Google Play with an elegant design and privacy

f-droid.org

The setting in Aurora Store is at: gear icon -> Settings -> Updates -> Incompatible Updates. Check it to update deep sleep apps.

 

[CanadianByTor]

Statements made about the Android/Google app store being unable to detect updates needed for deep sleeping apps are incorrect. Samsung app store is able to detect that my deep sleep apps need update, but Samsung store won't update those installed via Google store telling me go to the Google store, but attempting to find updates using Google store fails, even though Samsung store sees them needing updates. I have to invoke the apps so that Google store will check. This seems DELIBERATE on Google's part to save them from updating when possible, after all, deep sleeping apps are unused.

Except, this is the wrong attitude. I put *all* my apps into deep sleep, deliberately. This way, they do not run unless I invoke them. But I do want them to be updated. I don't want things running in the background unless I want them to, the vast majority of apps I don't want that to happen, even though I use some daily. I'm saving battery by doing so, reducing wake-to-check background scheduling time and energy, data traffic, and even RAM since there's no TSR required for the scheduling.

So, Google, other app stores can detect that a deep sleep app, installed by Google Play store, needs update. You need to add that as an option for us who make use of deep sleep.