Alarm clock failing
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Yeah the "Maize" clock widget at first seemed like it might be causing some of the issues with my phone's alarm, not sure what it really was. But I wanted to keep it on my phone because it's so nice looking IMO and I can still see my backgrounds. After I messed with the settings a bit and tried setting it to show the "Thursday, October 7th" display and have "touching" the clock on the homepage set it so it takes it to the alarm, it seemed to stop happening.
The Maize one might be REALLY "connected" to the phone's ACTUAL clock (or I would wonder why it has those options to control the phone's clock and calendar if it wasn't); which is why if a task killer kills the Maize clock at screen timeout, it might effect the phone's built in clock.
With Task Killers I have had no problems with Rhythm Task Manager but couldn't seem to figure out how to set a few others so they wouldn't cause issues with my phone. One issue was a couple of the Task Killers seemed to think (or something) the Fascinate was "timing out" when the screen went black when I held the phone to my ear for a phone call so one or two of them would just freeze up the phone. The Fascinate just seems like SUCH a different operating system then the rest of the Droids but I like it so much more.
If I look at my "Ignore List" I have, Phone, Calendar, Messaging, Daily Briefing, Clock, the Maize Clock Widget, Browser and Battery Status all ignored. One important setting with Rhythm seems to be making sure "Auto Kill Ignored Tasks" is unchecked as well. But Rhythm seems to work great. I haven't had my phone plugged in since 8am and am still at 76%.
The only thing I don't get is the built in app "Daily Briefing" REALLY seems to control a lot of things even though I don't even use it. I don't have "LauncherPro" installed or anything either.
Like I said, download any of this stuff at your own risk, but the above seems to work for me.
The Maize one might be REALLY "connected" to the phone's ACTUAL clock (or I would wonder why it has those options to control the phone's clock and calendar if it wasn't); which is why if a task killer kills the Maize clock at screen timeout, it might effect the phone's built in clock.
With Task Killers I have had no problems with Rhythm Task Manager but couldn't seem to figure out how to set a few others so they wouldn't cause issues with my phone. One issue was a couple of the Task Killers seemed to think (or something) the Fascinate was "timing out" when the screen went black when I held the phone to my ear for a phone call so one or two of them would just freeze up the phone. The Fascinate just seems like SUCH a different operating system then the rest of the Droids but I like it so much more.
If I look at my "Ignore List" I have, Phone, Calendar, Messaging, Daily Briefing, Clock, the Maize Clock Widget, Browser and Battery Status all ignored. One important setting with Rhythm seems to be making sure "Auto Kill Ignored Tasks" is unchecked as well. But Rhythm seems to work great. I haven't had my phone plugged in since 8am and am still at 76%.
The only thing I don't get is the built in app "Daily Briefing" REALLY seems to control a lot of things even though I don't even use it. I don't have "LauncherPro" installed or anything either.
Like I said, download any of this stuff at your own risk, but the above seems to work for me.
I'm suspecting that it's not the widget itself that's causing the problem. Not really sure what might be the root issue, though.
After uninstalling the clock widget, my phone gets most of the alarms correctly, but it's still skipping one or two every now and then, by about a minute.
Perhaps it's not so much the Maize clock widget as much as it is just a problem with widgets that update frequently? I'm rather at a loss.
Removing a number of widgets definitely seems to be helping, though.
I'm not using Daily Briefing or the stock Calendar apps, but neither am I killing them with task managers. They're still installed, I'm just ignoring their existence. Hmm.
Going to test reinstalling the Maize widget (and setting the date to show the day, since they fixed the weird flicker bug that format used to have) and removing a different widget that updated every couple seconds. I wonder if Battery Minder might be making a difference, too. Hm.
After uninstalling the clock widget, my phone gets most of the alarms correctly, but it's still skipping one or two every now and then, by about a minute.
Perhaps it's not so much the Maize clock widget as much as it is just a problem with widgets that update frequently? I'm rather at a loss.
Removing a number of widgets definitely seems to be helping, though.
I'm not using Daily Briefing or the stock Calendar apps, but neither am I killing them with task managers. They're still installed, I'm just ignoring their existence. Hmm.
Going to test reinstalling the Maize widget (and setting the date to show the day, since they fixed the weird flicker bug that format used to have) and removing a different widget that updated every couple seconds. I wonder if Battery Minder might be making a difference, too. Hm.
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Well my alarm went off properly this morning after sitting untouched for 5 hours, took off Maize and put on Beautiful Widgets.
Not quite scientific, not enough testing. And I also changed to a different battery widget at the same time.
I actually wouldn't be upset if it only missed by a couple of minutes, but I swear there has been at least once, maybe twice where it didn't go off at all.
Not quite scientific, not enough testing. And I also changed to a different battery widget at the same time.
I actually wouldn't be upset if it only missed by a couple of minutes, but I swear there has been at least once, maybe twice where it didn't go off at all.
Okay, I jinxed myself. Either my alarm failed to go off, twice, or I just slept though both. Sleeping though it possible, but because of this thread, I can't rule out the alarm not going off. My apps are minimal, with no rooting or LP.
Weird.
Weird.
The problem is that the stock alarm won't play the alarm sound if it's off by a minute. If it did, then I'd consider it fixed once it got within the range of a minute or two.
@Egz: Hope you're not having this issue, too. Ack.
Also, after reinstalling Maize's widget and removing a different one that changed its appearance every fifteen seconds, my alarm also went off without a hitch this morning. I'm also trying some different settings on the Maize widget (24-hour clock, no AM/PM, different date setting, etc.).
I'm keeping an eye on this and hoping someone figures it out. I don't use an alarm frequently enough (and vacation coming up) myself to do much testing. There are times when I really need it though, and I don't want to have to carry an old Blackberry or iPod touch around just for the alarm because I don't trust this thing.
Well I don't mess with manually "killing apps" and you said you don't have a task killer, correct?
One thing that MIGHT actually play a role in the clock alarm going off is the "snooze" feature. If the time actually does change due to inactivity of the phone, the snooze feature might get turned on when the clock stops "hibernating" and catch it the second time around. When I first got my Fascinate I kept setting the alarm only to not have it go off which is when I thought of ONE THING.
If you look in the phone's built in Task Manager, Daily Briefing and/or Clock are most likely in there. Now I have NO IDEA how the built in Task Manager works, but if it kills the apps in the list when the phone goes into a "deep sleep", then it is also most likely shutting down the Clock. That is when I downloaded a third party task killer and set it to kill the built in Task Manager so the built in Task Manager gets killed before it has a chance to kill all the apps on THAT list.
Seems to work fine for me, but it's a "download at your own risk" situation. Try the one I have been talking about. Look for Rhythm Task Manager and set the ignore list with clock, calendar, daily briefing, Maize clock widget, phone, messaging, browser, etc. and just make sure "Kill Ignored Tasks" is unchecked and the built in Task Manager is in the Auto-kill list. I won't make any guarantees because all these things work in different ways and it could mess up your phone; but, it hasn't hurt my phone at all as of yet and I haven't had a single problem with my alarm not going off since I did it.
Daily Briefing and the built-in Calendar don't show up in the stock task manager unless you've actually opened those apps and not exited out of them with the back key.
The snooze idea might work, though. I think one of my alarms is set to snooze, but I always just slide to turn the alarm off. I don't have any idea how to snooze it.
I haven't had a problem since turning off my 15-second-update widget, so I'm still thinking it might be an issue with too many widgets attempting to auto-update or something.
My other thought is that perhaps after missing an alarm, since the screen doesn't turn off on its own afterwards, it no longer runs into the 'deep sleep' issue, or whatever is going on until you restart the phone. I haven't restarted my phone in the past day and a half, so it could be that.
Still need to test it more.
I wish there were an easier way to test these alarms.
The snooze idea might work, though. I think one of my alarms is set to snooze, but I always just slide to turn the alarm off. I don't have any idea how to snooze it.
I haven't had a problem since turning off my 15-second-update widget, so I'm still thinking it might be an issue with too many widgets attempting to auto-update or something.
My other thought is that perhaps after missing an alarm, since the screen doesn't turn off on its own afterwards, it no longer runs into the 'deep sleep' issue, or whatever is going on until you restart the phone. I haven't restarted my phone in the past day and a half, so it could be that.
Still need to test it more.
I wish there were an easier way to test these alarms.
Well I tried uninstalling and then reinstalling beautiful widgets and testing my alarm, and it seemed to work. I'll have to test some more.
The problem is still around, for me, though it's occurs a bit less often.
I'm tempted to try removing all my auto-update widgets (rss feeds, twitter, google news, maize digital clock) to see if that'll help.
If someone who's experiencing the problem and who hasn't installed a lot of apps could post what they've got installed, perhaps we could narrow this down more. This is getting really irritating.
I'd post my list of apps (which I'm generating via MyAppsList, dunno if there's anything else that'll compile a list of installed apps), but I've got 129 installed at the moment, and I'm thinking that might not be too useful.
Of my four morning alarms, I can currently expect at least one to go off.
I'm tempted to try removing all my auto-update widgets (rss feeds, twitter, google news, maize digital clock) to see if that'll help.
If someone who's experiencing the problem and who hasn't installed a lot of apps could post what they've got installed, perhaps we could narrow this down more. This is getting really irritating.
I'd post my list of apps (which I'm generating via MyAppsList, dunno if there's anything else that'll compile a list of installed apps), but I've got 129 installed at the moment, and I'm thinking that might not be too useful.
Of my four morning alarms, I can currently expect at least one to go off.
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Just some updates:
Uninstalled the clock widget again, as well as the 15-second auto-update widget and my battery monitors.
My alarms are much more reliable, now. I'm not sure if one of them is going off, but I've had at least the same three go off every morning since I removed those widgets/apps, and my evening alarm hasn't failed yet, either.
I'm getting the impression that the removal of my RSS feeds widget, news widget, and Twitter widget would probably make the alarms stop failing altogether.
Uninstalled the clock widget again, as well as the 15-second auto-update widget and my battery monitors.
My alarms are much more reliable, now. I'm not sure if one of them is going off, but I've had at least the same three go off every morning since I removed those widgets/apps, and my evening alarm hasn't failed yet, either.
I'm getting the impression that the removal of my RSS feeds widget, news widget, and Twitter widget would probably make the alarms stop failing altogether.
I've resorted to setting three alarms in short succession just to be sure. But they all worked for me this morning.
My alarm's been working fine for a while, now, but I'm not sure what actually fixed it. I'll list what I did prior to it working, though:
- Uninstalled all but one of any type of widget that overlapped in functionality (clocks, battery monitors, etc.)
- Uninstalled and reinstalled Batterymonitor and Maize Clock Widget (only changed AM/PM and font colours)
- Ended many services in my 'Applications -> Running Services' menu (I ended sns, google news, sparse rss, and gtalk)
The alarms were working by this point, but I power cycled my phone after a day to get all my services running again. The alarms haven't failed since.
I seriously hope the problem doesn't crop up again. I like finding my phone with 80%+ battery at the end of the day as opposed to the 15% it would fall to before with Load Monitor's wakelock going.
- Uninstalled all but one of any type of widget that overlapped in functionality (clocks, battery monitors, etc.)
- Uninstalled and reinstalled Batterymonitor and Maize Clock Widget (only changed AM/PM and font colours)
- Ended many services in my 'Applications -> Running Services' menu (I ended sns, google news, sparse rss, and gtalk)
The alarms were working by this point, but I power cycled my phone after a day to get all my services running again. The alarms haven't failed since.
I seriously hope the problem doesn't crop up again. I like finding my phone with 80%+ battery at the end of the day as opposed to the 15% it would fall to before with Load Monitor's wakelock going.
Always have an alarm set and open your clock in apps and dont kill it in taskkiller. I killed my alarm clock in taskkiller and the clock in the status bar would not update with the widget.
Not to steal the thread or anything, but coming from a blackberry I miss the feature that will automaticly turn the phone on when it's time for the alarm to sound like my berry did. Is there a way to enable this?
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Not that I know of. Blackberry does many simple things very, very well 
It's just painfully slow a lot of the time, and don't even talk about browsing the web.
Re: the original topic, it might help if you make sure to open your alarm right before you put the phone down and go to sleep, ie last app open. Or try another. Been using this alarm
http://www.appbrain.com/app/alarm-clock-plusv2★/com.vp.alarmClockPlusDock
Nice features, I like the math alarm. It hasn't failed yet but I don't use the alarm every day so I'm not a good tester.
It's just painfully slow a lot of the time, and don't even talk about browsing the web.Re: the original topic, it might help if you make sure to open your alarm right before you put the phone down and go to sleep, ie last app open. Or try another. Been using this alarm
http://www.appbrain.com/app/alarm-clock-plusv2★/com.vp.alarmClockPlusDock
Nice features, I like the math alarm. It hasn't failed yet but I don't use the alarm every day so I'm not a good tester.
It did that because your Blackberry was never really turned off - it was hibernating. I'm guessing they did this because many Blackberry phones take 5+ minutes to boot. Since your Android phone actually turns off, this is not going to work. Putting it in Airplane mode, sleeping the screen and killing any running apps would have a similar effect though.
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