Am I the only disappointed Android user here? The Nexus 4 let me down

[TheUI]

@Jerry

Please don't ever stop saying things that aren't popular. Lord knows we don't need anymore consumerist Zombies.

Also,

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of majority, it's time to pause and reflect." - Mark Twain, American Gangster

 

[ChromeJob]

Latency. You keep using that word, but I do not think it means what you think it means.

:thumbup:

 

[ChromeJob]

Wow, that's amazing price for such a device. Does anyone have any idea when will this hit the market? How much better is its processor than SGS3's? Should I sell my SGS3 and go for the Nexus 4? What's your opinion who have the Galaxy S3 right now too?

You need to get out more. READ the front page articles.

 

[philly]

I can solve the whole no extra space issue in a very simple way - "OTG Cable"

kthnx.

oh yea.. because having a cable hang from your phone is easy and ideal.

are you serious?

 

[ChromeJob]

oh yea.. because having a cable hang from your phone is easy and ideal.

are you serious?

Boys get used to things dangling. Girls point and giggle.

 

[natehoy]

I see the Nexus 4 as a compromise phone. 32GB would be nice, but most of my time is spent in WiFi range and I can always (like Google wants me to do) upload my music to Google and "pin" what I think I'll want to listen to when out and about - either taking a few seconds to do it while on WiFi or accepting that it might take a few minutes to download it (and eat into a limited data plan) when on 3G.

Similarly, LTE would be nice, but if I get the Nexus I'll be on some sort of limited data plan anyway, so I'd be looking at shorter battery life to get through my monthly data limit in 10 days instead of 20. Don't get me wrong - I'd have strongly preferred a good LTE radio, but it's not a "must have" in my book.

What I really, really, REALLY like about this phone is the price. $300 or $350 isn't much more than the carrier subsidized prices on overall pretty similar phones that will become obsolete much faster due to the lack of OS upgrades, and require a long-term commitment to a specific carrier.

So, sure, I'd LIKE to see more memory, and I'd LIKE to see LTE, but like the Nexus Seven this phone was built to a price point. As such, it cannot be all things to all people.

THIS phone at THIS price might be enough to get a whole bunch of people to break the carrier chains that bind them, and this is good news for everyone.

And it's not going to be sufficient for a whole bunch of people, which is fine - they can spend more on something that does have everything they need.

 

[natehoy]

oh yea.. because having a cable hang from your phone is easy and ideal.

are you serious?

It's not ideal, but you don't necessarily have to have the OTG cable hanging from your phone constantly. Even if you "cheap out" and buy an 8GB one, that's plenty of space to hold all the apps most people will ever need, a few dozen albums, and a movie or two. Carry around an OTG cable and a 64GB USB stick or three and you'll be able to easily copy whatever you might need to local storage in a few seconds, then unplug and re-stow the cable and stick.

But if the Nexus Seven is any judge, just wait about 3-4 months and a 32GB version will become available.

 

[natehoy]

Out of curiosity, how does the nexus save you money when you pay full price + carrier fees compared to subsidized phone + same carrier fees?

Because you aren't limited to a carrier that will offer you the subsidy for the phone you want.

The selection of phones on StraightTalk is horrible. However, they will sell me a SIM chip for $10 and I can choose between a $30 limited and get a $45 unlimited plan. I can also go to AT&T and get a prepaid plan for $65 a month that includes 1GB of data and unlimited everything else (I'd have to manage my data pretty carefully, but I have yet to exceed 1GB of mobile data a month, and I'm a pretty heavy data user - I just use WiFi often and mobile data judiciously).

If I go in to an AT&T store and accept a subsidy for a Galaxy S3 for $200 after subsidy, I'm saving about $100 on the purchase of the phone but I'm committing to 2 years at $90 a month if I want 3GB of data and any sort of texting plan. That's $45 a month more than the StraightTalk plan, and $25 a month more than the AT&T prepaid. In six months, I've paid for the Nexus 4 in monthly fee savings.

Yes, I COULD walk into AT&T with my phone and insist on a month-to-month postpaid plan. I could also set fire to a $50 bill every month. Both can easily be avoided.

 

[Woosh]

Because you aren't limited to a carrier that will offer you the subsidy for the phone you want.

The selection of phones on StraightTalk is horrible. However, they will sell me a SIM chip for $10 and I can choose between a $30 limited and $45 unlimited plan. I can also go to AT&T and get a prepaid plan for $65 a month that includes 1GB of data and unlimited everything else (I'd have to manage my data pretty carefully, but I have yet to exceed 1GB of mobile data a month, and I'm a pretty heavy data user - I just use WiFi often and mobile data judiciously).

If I go in to an AT&T store and accept a subsidy for a Galaxy S3 for $200 after subsidy, I'm saving about $100 on the purchase of the phone but I'm committing to 2 years at $90 a month if I want 3GB of data and any sort of texting plan. That's $45 a month more than the StraightTalk plan, and $25 a month more than the AT&T prepaid. In six months, I've paid for the Nexus 4 in monthly fee savings.

Yes, I COULD walk into AT&T with my phone and insist on a month-to-month postpaid plan. I could also set fire to a $50 bill every month. Both can easily be avoided.

Just to clarify....the BYOD program only works on the $45+ plans. The $30 a month from ST will not work.

 

[shkim698]

All can be explained by listening to Muse - Unsustainable LTE + MicroSD Slot = "Economy based on endless growth is unsustainable"
In conclusion, Nexus 4 is sustainable

 

[natehoy]

Just to clarify....the BYOD program only works on the $45+ plans. The $30 a month from ST will not work.

Thanks. I'll correct my original post on that (though I did use the $45 plan for all my math).

 

[bunique4life05]

Some people forget the true nature of Android. Oh well...

Which is?

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[dmmarck]

Which is?

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Community

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[bunique4life05]

Community

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Lol...a vague answer but you make your point none the less.

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[philly]

Boy's get used to things dangling. Girls point and giggle.

when you get old enough.. it gets big enough to not "dangle".

 

[sting7k]

Hey guys. I've had Android since my LG Dare in 2008. Promise I'm not trying to hate or troll or anything here, but I am pretty annoyed at Google right now. I was dying to get the Nexus 4, until I heard it might only have 16GB onboard. Then I found hope in that it was only a rumor, and maybe cloud storage would make okay. Then I realized I can't run apps from a cloud, or listen to music without a data connection (I have 17GB of music alone). Then, Google made my worst nightmares a reality with only 8GB and 16GB options and no expandable storage. Is it too much to ask for 64GB? Even 32? Or a micro sd slot?! I don't care if the price would be higher. I need the space!!!! Then they announced no LTE. WHAT?! Remember the outrage over the iPhone 4 two years ago? That was a bit unjustified, but at this point, not including the latest technology is inexcusable for a flagship Android device. I don't need LTE, but as a marketing move this is the stupidest thing Google could have possibly done. Not to mention, even if I could get over all of this ridiculousness, I have Verizon (and no choice, because I don't pay my bill).

There is no way this phone will ever be a possibility for me. What am I supposed to do? I currently have a Droid X (the original) and it is a mess. Programs are corrupting (camera only launches 30% of the time, etc.), the screen is starting to fail (black spots in the LCD), the battery is fried, etc. I NEED a phone. This is a huge disappointment.

I might be interested in the Droid DLX or DNA, but it is just so big....5" is unnecessary even if it's 1080p....and it's still a rumor anyway. Any suggestions on what I should do? Should I suck it up (any why), wait it out (really would rather not), or switch to the dark side and the iPhone 5 (really really don't want to, but it may be my only viable option). Thanks for the help and sorry for the rant, but I can't imagine that I am the only one who is just a bit pissed off.

Sounds like you want a Galaxy S3 or something that will meet your needs. I don't see why everyone needs to carry around their entire music library. I have 40GB and carrying around around 4GB at a time is enough for several days of continuous music. That will easily get you through even an 8 hour plane ride across the the ocean.

If it's really that big a deal then the Nexus 4 isn't for you. I'd recommend the Galaxy S3.

 

[MazoMark]

Sounds like you want a Galaxy S3 or something that will meet your needs. I don't see why everyone needs to carry around their entire music library. I have 40GB and carrying around around 4GB at a time is enough for several days of continuous music. That will easily get you through even an 8 hour plane ride across the the ocean.

If it's really that big a deal then the Nexus 4 isn't for you. I'd recommend the Galaxy S3.

Agree. If you must have your entire music collection with you at all times and an SD card and LTE are critical to you, then a Nexus phone is not for you. Nexus phones have never had SD card slots that I remember. And based on messages from Google, it sounds like Nexus won't have LTE until there is more cross carrier compatability with it. Nexus is supposed to be open and flexible user experience and right now, LTE does not support that.

 

[Paul627g]

I don't feel Google has let me down with the direction of the Nexus 4. Google likes things simple. They love being able to create a new set of source code or update/bug fix and get it out to the masses fast. After the let down from Verizon and Sprint with the GNex and the whole LTE closed licensing proprietary code it just left Google in a bad spot. I don't blame Google for being upset about the way things went, here the GSM based GNex's all pushed out JB and here was Verizon and Sprint lagging weeks, months behind.. Just isn't what Google and the Nexus stands for, IMO.

As far as the storage on the Nexus 4, well as Google has said its a device based on people that utilize the cloud based services so thats really about it in a nut shell. Non removable battery, I guess this is eventually the way things are going so Google is making its first real attempt at embracing it by using it in the newest Nexus.

The Nexus 4 will do fine as a non LTE device and for those who don't fit the mold of what Google is offering we have plenty of other options available to us.

 

[mzanette]

Agree. If you must have your entire music collection with you at all times and an SD card and LTE are critical to you, then a Nexus phone is not for you. Nexus phones have never had SD card slots that I remember. And based on messages from Google, it sounds like Nexus won't have LTE until there is more cross carrier compatability with it. Nexus is supposed to be open and flexible user experience and right now, LTE does not support that.

I'm in the process of transferring a bunch of albums I want to keep on hand to Google Music. Since i'm on wifi most of the time streaming won't be an issue for me to listen to my tunes. I'm finally converting to cloud-based storage as opposed to keeping thousands of songs on my phone. We'll see how it goes, but i'm excited about the prospect.

 

[diverbelow]

Hey guys. I've had Android since my LG Dare in 2008. Promise I'm not trying to hate or troll or anything here, but I am pretty annoyed at Google right now. I was dying to get the Nexus 4, until I heard it might only have 16GB onboard. Then I found hope in that it was only a rumor, and maybe cloud storage would make okay. Then I realized I can't run apps from a cloud, or listen to music without a data connection (I have 17GB of music alone). Then, Google made my worst nightmares a reality with only 8GB and 16GB options and no expandable storage. Is it too much to ask for 64GB? Even 32? Or a micro sd slot?! I don't care if the price would be higher. I need the space!!!! Then they announced no LTE. WHAT?! Remember the outrage over the iPhone 4 two years ago? That was a bit unjustified, but at this point, not including the latest technology is inexcusable for a flagship Android device. I don't need LTE, but as a marketing move this is the stupidest thing Google could have possibly done. Not to mention, even if I could get over all of this ridiculousness, I have Verizon (and no choice, because I don't pay my bill).

There is no way this phone will ever be a possibility for me. What am I supposed to do? I currently have a Droid X (the original) and it is a mess. Programs are corrupting (camera only launches 30% of the time, etc.), the screen is starting to fail (black spots in the LCD), the battery is fried, etc. I NEED a phone. This is a huge disappointment.

I might be interested in the Droid DLX or DNA, but it is just so big....5" is unnecessary even if it's 1080p....and it's still a rumor anyway. Any suggestions on what I should do? Should I suck it up (any why), wait it out (really would rather not), or switch to the dark side and the iPhone 5 (really really don't want to, but it may be my only viable option). Thanks for the help and sorry for the rant, but I can't imagine that I am the only one who is just a bit pissed off.

Google has stated why they rid of SD cards. Even AC posted on why: Why Nexus devices have no SD card | Android Central Here is what Google said:
"We got tired of seeing OEMs include many GB of internal storage for music, while users were still running out of space for apps and data. This approach lets us merge everything on one volume, which is way better.

-- Dan Morrill, Android engineer at Google"