Answer to immediate battery loss?

[rpfarrah]

nothing works, tried all the above and battery life sucks. i charge this thing about 3 times a day.

Have you checked to see how your Up time compares to your Awake time?

Settings> About Phone> Battery>

If your Awake time is anywhere near your Up time, you've got some App running and keeping it awake all the time, and that's what is causing your battery to die so quickly.

 

[mobiledevice]

I had a very similar problem for a couple weeks. At best, I got about 5 hours of life out of my DI. This was my fix:

- bought the seidio 1750
- factory reset my phone (yeah, I know, it was a pain)
- conditioned the battery 4 times (i.e., bump charged it to max then drained it to zero power) (Seidio recommended 5-6 cycles, but I stopped at 4. I continued for a couple more days to bump charge the phone to max afterward though.)


Now I get about 20 hours of moderate use, and about 10-12 of heavy use.

 

[slinky317]

For those of you that were getting the immediate battery loss when unplugging, what charger were you using on your phone? The one that came with the Incredible or a different one?

 

[jdazzr]

The one that came with the phone.

 

[jas o]

I know there are folks that disagree with me (and that's okay! ), but I believe the battery stops charging when its full and does not charge any more, even though its on the charger. Here's my example: you put the phone on the charger when you go to bed, it completes charging in a couple hours. It is then on "stand-by", not using much juice (depending upon what you have running in the background) until you un-plug it and start to use it. So, since it hasn't been charging for 3-4 hours, almost immediately it drops to it's correct charged level. Plug it back in and it will start charging again until full.

One of the threads suggest a long dance in which you turn off and plug in and turn on and plug in, but you're essentially doing the same thing. When you unplug, or restart your phone, it re-checks the charge and charges as necessary until full. I believe this is a measure by which the phone and battery are protected from over-charging. The Samsung Omnia does the same thing.

Best practice for me: charge it up over night. Then when I get up in the morning, I unplug it, check my email and whatever, then plug it back in while I get ready for work. Out the door with a true fullycharged battery.

As always, ymmv.

This has possiblilties. Unplug in am and battery shows "max" in three minute down to 97% - 95%. then no significant loss after that. PS Using Seidio 1750

 

[mobiledevice]

For those of you that were getting the immediate battery loss when unplugging, what charger were you using on your phone? The one that came with the Incredible or a different one?

I use my old blackberry chargers at home (one USB, two wall plugs), a verizon one-size-fits-all car charger, and another old blackberry USB cable at work.

Honestly, I never bothered to use the HTC charger that came with the phone. It's been sitting in the box in a closet since I got the phone.

 

[jas o]

I use my old blackberry chargers at home (one USB, two wall plugs), a verizon one-size-fits-all car charger, and another old blackberry USB cable at work.

Honestly, I never bothered to use the HTC charger that came with the phone. It's been sitting in the box in a closet since I got the phone.

I too have been using the BB Storm charger over night. I have the HTC one next to my desk so when I come back in from an appointment I can charge. HTC charge much faster than BB.

 

[Qazme]

I know there are folks that disagree with me (and that's okay! ), but I believe the battery stops charging when its full and does not charge any more, even though its on the charger. Here's my example: you put the phone on the charger when you go to bed, it completes charging in a couple hours. It is then on "stand-by", not using much juice (depending upon what you have running in the background) until you un-plug it and start to use it. So, since it hasn't been charging for 3-4 hours, almost immediately it drops to it's correct charged level. Plug it back in and it will start charging again until full.

One of the threads suggest a long dance in which you turn off and plug in and turn on and plug in, but you're essentially doing the same thing. When you unplug, or restart your phone, it re-checks the charge and charges as necessary until full. I believe this is a measure by which the phone and battery are protected from over-charging. The Samsung Omnia does the same thing.

Best practice for me: charge it up over night. Then when I get up in the morning, I unplug it, check my email and whatever, then plug it back in while I get ready for work. Out the door with a true fullycharged battery.

As always, ymmv.

Thats kind of what I'm thinking too. My phone always hold a nice charge if I charge it while off. It is also why I think the bump charge works, but to be more exact I don't think it's full charging to begin with, because the phone software does rely on some sort of circuitry in the battery to determine if it's fully charged. But the OP says he's using a Seidio 1750, which is what I have used and haven't experienced that.

Isn't the "bump charge" actually overcharging the battery? Doesn't that hurt it in the long run?

No it won't harm the battery, Seidio has responded to people in this forum giving this exact procedure to correct the battery. If it shortens the life of the battery any nobody knows for sure, but considering if you get tons better battery life, and how many cycles these things are rated for, you will end up with a new phone before it messes up and you need a new battery.

With all that being said, have you tried charging it while it was off? The cable doesn't matter because it is build on a macro-usb standard, so all cables are the same setup. The only thing that varies is the "quality" of the cabling. o you are fine there. My factory battery got a lot better life after I bump charged it for a couple of charges, and I did it with my 1750 after I got it for the first 5-6 charge cycles. Ever since I did that I do normal phone on charges for the most part now and my battery last anywhere between 10-20 hours depending on how heavy I use it. My average times is somewhere between 12-14 hours.

One other thing to remember the cable only charge delivers only .5 amps where the wall charger produces 1 amp, meaning the charge will be faster on the wall, and if you ask me you get a better charge as well. Just something to chew on.

 

[moosc]

my md is better then DI and my storm was better then both on charging and holding a charge.

 

[moosc]

how about HTC get there crap together. there is no need for us to be doing a dance to charge our phones.

 

[slinky317]

I get about 30 hours on the battery right now. Every 3 hours, I drop 10%. However, like I said, in the first few minutes after taking it off the charger I drop 7% immediately.

So the "bump charging" is the way to fix it?

 

[sgtmilstack]

I get about 30 hours on the battery right now. Every 3 hours, I drop 10%. However, like I said, in the first few minutes after taking it off the charger I drop 7% immediately.

So the "bump charging" is the way to fix it?

Stand alone battery charger could be another option. A fellow in incredible forums appeared to be very pleased with the results. Stand alone battery charger?

Oh, as per your previous question, I've been using the OEM HTC charger. There were times that I used the Verizon branded charger and I believe that the same event (rapid drop to 93%) occurred.

 

[Qazme]

I get about 30 hours on the battery right now. Every 3 hours, I drop 10%. However, like I said, in the first few minutes after taking it off the charger I drop 7% immediately.

So the "bump charging" is the way to fix it?

Wow would love to hear how you're doing that. My phone with the 1750 can have everything turned off and be in standby and barely stretch out a 24 hour period.

 

[Diabl0]

Wow would love to hear how you're doing that. My phone with the 1750 can have everything turned off and be in standby and barely stretch out a 24 hour period.

Wow, I'm pulling 40 hours on the stock battery with a few calls, app downloads, heavy texting, some Facebook, and some internet time.






It had 40 hours and about 5 hours of awake time before I had to charge it.

 

[2WheelCowboy]

This is an OS issue somewhere on HTC's part. If we were to have root and loaded say a cyan mod i believe we wouldn't see these issues. Other than the ones were people have all kind of services running. The phone charges as fast as it drains. Something isn't right in the OS. I'm going to downgrade this weekend to the shipping ROM. The first four days i had no complaints about the battery.would last all day, easy. Since the update it has gone straight downhill. The phone shouldn't charge as fast as it does. Li-ion batteries prefer a slow charge not as fast one. I think something isn't right in the way the OS handles the charge and has nothing to do with anything else.

 

[slinky317]

Wow would love to hear how you're doing that. My phone with the 1750 can have everything turned off and be in standby and barely stretch out a 24 hour period.

Make sure you're minimizing your phone's awake time, and make sure you're on WiFi as much as possible. The phone constantly searching for a 3G signal will KILL your battery.

Best thing to do is set your WiFi Sleep Policy to never sleep. It can be found in Wi-Fi Settings, Menu > Advanced.

 

[Qazme]

Make sure you're minimizing your phone's awake time, and make sure you're on WiFi as much as possible. The phone constantly searching for a 3G signal will KILL your battery.

Best thing to do is set your WiFi Sleep Policy to never sleep. It can be found in Wi-Fi Settings, Menu > Advanced.

Yeah I already have all that covered. I'll try swapping the sleep timer off and see if that's any help....well I don't have an issue now with battery as I get 10 hours under heavy usage streaming youtube etc. Any who thanks for the tip.

And @Diabl0, you at about 60% battery with only an hour on the battery.....40 hours huh? By that gauge if you used your phone for about 2 1/2 hours straight without putting it down your phone would be dead.

And the whole "Up Time" and "Awake Time" counter is the total time your phone has been on, rather it's on the charger or not until you power cycle your phone. Mines going on 41/39 hours now...

 

[jasonb]

It's the HTC OEM battery. there are workarounds. Just check out the Stickied battery thread.

Its not the battery, its the phone. I have one of the eBay external battery charges and it charges the oem battery to a true 100%. I have gone hours and hours without the battery dropping to 99% when using this charger.

 

[lcsglvr]

Wow. I just did auto kill calendar and getting good result. Moderate usage and at 2 am have about 30 percent left.

 

[slinky317]

And the whole "Up Time" and "Awake Time" counter is the total time your phone has been on, rather it's on the charger or not until you power cycle your phone. Mines going on 41/39 hours now...

Whoa, your awake time is 39 hours and your up time is 41 hours?

No wonder why you're getting poor battery life. Either you're using the phone A LOT, or there's something in the background keeping it awake.