Battery pull vs power off/on

[KB3MMX]

Ok I just want to say, if the device is powered OFF, its OFF. There's no physically-possible way for a powered off device to transmit any signal whatsoever.

All those phony warnings about how your phone can be tracked, even while "off" are bull just to scare lesser tech savvy individuals. When they say off, they mean when you have the screen off, but the phone is still powered on, but in a standby state. In this case yes its possible for your phone to "transmit a signal" while "off" but this is totally different then holding the power button down for 3 seconds, and pressing "Power Off." This is the equivalent to pressing Start -> Shut down on your computer. Its off. Period. I dunno about you guys but when my computers off it can't transmit me any porn so I guess it can't transmit anything else either well guess what the same applies to your phone.

Now as for the debate of whether to pull the battery or power cycle through the OS, its the same end result only the means of getting there are different. Sometimes you NEED to pull the battery, point in case stuck at the M logo. Other times you just want to get a fresh boot. In that case it is not necessary to pull the battery.

For the sake of curing temporary bugs in the system, a power cycle via the OS is more than sufficient.

So glad some others out there share my resent for those who live by these false beliefs (powered off transmitting signals, battery pull doing something more than just turning off the device) lol. Thanks and hope this helps clear things up for anyone still confused.

Wanna give out your......Nevermind.
Within 5 minutes, anyone's phone Mic , camera and GPS can be monitored on any modern cell phone.
Please don't mislead people into false "security", this has been proven wrong too many times.

Anyway, the battery has to be out to truly power off a cell phone and it only needs pulled
if the phone locks up and you cannot soft reboot.

 

[roberte1342]

I saw this on Eagle Eye, they were able to track cell phones while powered off. And on CSI they were able to triangulate the exact location of a powered off cell phone. And in The Matrix Agent Smith was able to find a cell phone that was thrown in the trash, well that one was still on, and in a virtual world, but still.

/s

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[Dendrite]

Sometimes you NEED to pull the battery, point in case stuck at the M logo. Other times you just want to get a fresh boot. In that case it is not necessary to pull the battery.

This is exactly why I've been trying to learn from the brain trust here. I've got an X that occasionally hangs at the M logo with a power on. It doesn't happen very often, maybe 4 or 5 times in the 28 days that I've had the device. (I travel a lot so I'm constantly powering off my phone in airplanes) Yeah, yeah I've done a few factory resets per sticky here and it helped but did not completely fix the issue. However, a battery pull quickly solves the stuck at Moto problem. If boots right up after that.

So... I was wanting to know if by pulling my battery once in a while I was creating a vast army of orphaned files on my device and if so, how I could perform a "search and destroy" on said files.

If a rare battery pull is no big deal on a Droid X, I will just put up with it. Honestly battery pulls were a way of life with all of my prior BB's. This is a huge improvement over a Berry.

My X has been stellar otherwise. Nonetheless, VZW has told me that they would issue me a brand new device if the occasional stuck Moto is driving me nuts. It's not and I thought I'd simply wait for the Froyo patch update to fix this. OK, guys I've got 2 days left on my 30 day return window. What say you?

 

[scoty024]

My understanding was that in order to get a completely clean restart, free of and residual "stuff" sitting on the DX's memory you should power the device off, pull the battery, then (with the battery out) hold the power button for 3-5 seconds. I read this in a "how to get a clean factory reset" thread that I think was stickied and noted to be most accurate... But my memory sucks so it may have just been a random thread I stumbled across. Can anyone (who is not just guessing because they haven't heard of it before) verify this or debunk it?

 

[MadDog_]

Because they have no idea what they are talking about.

Well, I just got a Droid X2 a week ago after 2 years of an iPhone 3GS and a Blackberry Curve prior to that.

Within the first week, I've had 3 times where I went to use my phone and it was frozen solid. Pushing and/or holding the Power or Home buttons did absolutely nothing and the only way to fix the problem was to pull the battery, which reminds me of the Blackberry days.

I called Verizon today and they said this is not an issue (to them) on the Droid X2.

Anyone know what the problem is and how I might fix it? I'm a complete Android nyoob at this point and am clueless as to how to proceed.

 

[randy pennella]

The only time i would pull the battery, is when i can't power down otherwize i try not to pull the battery at all.

 

[gordol]

Not true. WHen your phone is off it is still transmitting a signal.

I think your tinfoil hat has a rip in it.