best way to migrate to new moto 5g 2025

[erhard52]

i think this is a very sad state of affairs and i almost want to buy an iphone where migration is seamless. i have a moto 5g 2023 and want to migrate to moto 5g 2025 because it has a better screen. i remember my last upgrade was a pain because my entire home screen setup was not replicated and i had to do it all again. also many apps where not copied especially apps which i installed through APKs. this also incudes my own apps developed with MITappinventor.
so bottom line is a mess. i checked with AI and google search and still do not see a seamless migration process. i hope i just miss critical information and someone tells me "it is as easy as with iphone".

why is the android community putting up with such poor conditions? ups i think i should not complain.

thanks for any good leads
erhard

 

[mustang7757]

Android still needs to be better in this regard, but Samsung has the best back up and restore like Apple.

 

[erhard52]

Android still needs to be better in this regard, but Samsung has the best back up and restore like Apple.

But Android phones are on the market more than 15 years and this is a critical function

 

[mustang7757]

But Android phones are on the market more than 15 years and this is a critical function

It's an area they haven't focused much on , pixels gotten a little better and I think one plus also but the rest which is probably only Motorola not so great

 

[B. Diddy]

Backup/restore works best if your data is backed up or synced to your cloud (typically your Google account, Google Drive, etc.). There aren't really any good backup/restore options that involve saving a "disk image" of the phone and then restoring that image when needed, I believe because that's considered a significant security risk (after all, you wouldn't want some nefarious person to be able to completely clone your phone relatively easily). I'm not very familiar with Apple's backup/restore features, but I'm pretty sure they utilize their cloud as well (i.e., iCloud).

It's generally easier for Apple to streamline this process because they have complete control over all of their hardware and software, so everything is uniform. Android, on the other hand, is spread out over many different manufacturers who tweak the base Android code differently. So different manufacturers tend to come up with their own backup methods (like Samsung's as mustang7757 mentioned).

Google would probably not want to include sideloaded APKs in the official backup process, since APKs are considered "unknown" and potentially unsafe, even if the user thinks their source is reliable. Thus, it's a nonstandard practice, and therefore does not surprise me that these would not be part of the automated backup.

I've generally had smooth transitions from my previous Pixel phones to new ones. I use the 3rd party launcher Nova, which has an easy backup/restore option for the layout.

 

[erhard52]

Backup/restore works best if your data is backed up or synced to your cloud (typically your Google account, Google Drive, etc.). There aren't really any good backup/restore options that involve saving a "disk image" of the phone and then restoring that image when needed, I believe because that's considered a significant security risk (after all, you wouldn't want some nefarious person to be able to completely clone your phone relatively easily). I'm not very familiar with Apple's backup/restore features, but I'm pretty sure they utilize their cloud as well (i.e., iCloud).

It's generally easier for Apple to streamline this process because they have complete control over all of their hardware and software, so everything is uniform. Android, on the other hand, is spread out over many different manufacturers who tweak the base Android code differently. So different manufacturers tend to come up with their own backup methods (like Samsung's as mustang7757 mentioned).

Google would probably not want to include sideloaded APKs in the official backup process, since APKs are considered "unknown" and potentially unsafe, even if the user thinks their source is reliable. Thus, it's a nonstandard practice, and therefore does not surprise me that these would not be part of the automated backup.

I've generally had smooth transitions from my previous Pixel phones to new ones. I use the 3rd party launcher Nova, which has an easy backup/restore option for the layout.

thanks for your input and i agree with many concerns but google could give the user more power in selecting what he/she wants to transfer. APKs could be listed and user checks manually. a good backup should be part of the OS. yes, in the it would almost come down to a disk image.
this painful migration also prevents users from buying new phones i guess which in a way is a good thing for the planet.
yes it seems Samsung managed to provide a good migration solution and motorola seems to the the worst. i like moto for the 3.5mm headphone (allows FM radio) and the microSD

 

[erhard52]

ok it went as expected, not great. what really messes the entire process up is my microSD card which i think only motorola phones have.
- yes APK installed apps are not reinstalled - not a surprise because it often would not know where the source file is but why cannot it not migrate the app? it could also ask the user and it also could generate a log file of the things that did not work.
- even the phone came with a USB data cable for the migration it only allowed me to use it once and then it resorted to wifi or google backup. 100GB images took about 10 hours.
the it says the copy process could be interrupted and then resumed but when i did it considered the copy process done and never asked to finish the missing files copying.
- it did copy my home screen setup - that was the only good thing.
- some apps did not work in android 15 and i had to find versions on the web (APKs) that i could install

i still rate the entire process super mediocre and basically not functioning as it should after 15 years of this OS.
i understand why people buy apple products

 

[erhard52]

forgot to mention the upgrade was from moto 5G stylus 2022 to moto 5G stylus 2025

 

[erhard52]

i more or less go the migration done. BIG mistake was to not remove the external microSD card before starting the upgrade process.
- APK apps are not copied
- quickpic 9.0 does not run in android 15
- bookmark icons did not get copied
- many logins based on biometric did not work
- once the copy process was interrupted by me - it says it could be resumed later - i could not resume the copy process of photos and movies
so i stick to my judgement - bad migration support by android.