Bolt to get ICS via FB

[FrankXS]

Well then there you go

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Yeah, just figured that out myself....

-Frank

 

[Raiders Fan 223]

How is ICS going to work with the 4 buttons on physical buttons on the Bolt? Isn't ICS designed for 3 on screen buttons? Obviously the 4 buttons will be there on the Bolt... but how is that going to work?

 

[anon(394005)]

How is ICS going to work with the 4 buttons on physical buttons on the Bolt? Isn't ICS designed for 3 on screen buttons? Obviously the 4 buttons will be there on the Bolt... but how is that going to work?

The capacitive buttons will still work as they usually do. But, because of them, you won't see the three onscreen soft buttons. Those are only active in ICS on phones without capacitive or physical buttons.

 

[DaddyW123]

Forgive me for not researchnig more thoroughly first, but are there currently any good/stable ICS roms out there? I'm on BAMF 1.10 right now (haven't updated to 1.11 yet) with the rezound battery and the kernal patch. It's been pretty great for a while so I don't want to mess with perfection - but I'm always itching to try something new.

 

[ggrr8t]

This is better than sex.

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Definetly doing it wrong then.

 

[Bwangster12]

Forgive me for not researchnig more thoroughly first, but are there currently any good/stable ICS roms out there? I'm on BAMF 1.10 right now (haven't updated to 1.11 yet) with the rezound battery and the kernal patch. It's been pretty great for a while so I don't want to mess with perfection - but I'm always itching to try something new.

To my knowledge, there are no "stable" roms out there. They all have issues with the radio and therefore can't connect to data, call, text... etc.

There are 3 different ones that I know of... I've been following Liquid's because I love Liquid 3.2. Obviously, once we get closer to an ICS release, I'd anticipate more ICS roms.

 

[blackjaguar25]

Definetly doing it wrong then.

Sex happens every day. Updates don't.

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[Mortiel]

I hate to be the downer, but be very aware that there is a good possibility of some rather nasty bugs... Depending on how deep this update goes, it may require a kernel overhaul... the OTA update system is problematic at best when its just a simple patch, and this will be the biggest leap in Android functionality/interface... the 1.6 to 2.0 jump was not nearly this extensive.

Trust me when I say that while I am pleased with HTC's dedication, from a professional standpoint I do not relish the coming months...

 

[red rage]

This is better than sex.

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i think you might be doing somthing wrong

 

[blackjaguar25]

I hate to be the downer, but be very aware that there is a good possibility of some rather nasty bugs... Depending on how deep this update goes, it may require a kernel overhaul... the OTA update system is problematic at best when its just a simple patch, and this will be the biggest leap in Android functionality/interface... the 1.6 to 2.0 jump was not nearly this extensive.

Trust me when I say that while I am pleased with HTC's dedication, from a professional standpoint I do not relish the coming months...

I'm sure there will be bugs, but I am not afraid that they will be too hard to fix. I fear more for the first phones to get it, like the Rezound.

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[Mortiel]

I'm sure there will be bugs, but I am not afraid that they will be too hard to fix. I fear more for the first phones to get it, like the Rezound.

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One benefit the Rezound has is that ICS was optimized for multi-core phones, so my main worry personally is that at its best the Thunderbolt/Rhyme/Incredible 2 will be slightly on the bogged down side. I, in no way, think it will be as bad as the alpha for the ICS ROM I saw flashed on a Motorola Droid A855 (it made me think of the speed of Windows 3.1.1, before the 386 processors).

While the Rezound will likely bear the brunt of bugs for both ICS and Sense 4.0, trust me when I say that unless the Rezound's bugs are extensively debilitating with Sense 4.0, the Thunderbolt will get the update a month or two following the Rezound.

I really, REALLY hope that HTC pushes the Thunderbolt's ICS update before its 1 year anniversary... I despised Samsung for pushing the update to the Fascinate 15 months after its launch, screwing many customers with OS failures after the update that had no extended warranty.

 

[blackjaguar25]

You make a good point there about multi core. I feel like this phone will be able to handle it, but I guess we'll just have to see. Nothing really slows down this phone anymore.

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[anon(394005)]

One benefit the Rezound has is that ICS was optimized for multi-core phones, so my main worry personally is that at its best the Thunderbolt/Rhyme/Incredible 2 will be slightly on the bogged down side. I, in no way, think it will be as bad as the alpha for the ICS ROM I saw flashed on a Motorola Droid A855 (it made me think of the speed of Windows 3.1.1, before the 386 processors).

While the Rezound will likely bear the brunt of bugs for both ICS and Sense 4.0, trust me when I say that unless the Rezound's bugs are extensively debilitating with Sense 4.0, the Thunderbolt will get the update a month or two following the Rezound.

I really, REALLY hope that HTC pushes the Thunderbolt's ICS update before its 1 year anniversary... I despised Samsung for pushing the update to the Fascinate 15 months after its launch, screwing many customers with OS failures after the update that had no extended warranty.

Good point about the warranty, didn't think about that. It's all the more reason I DON'T WANT ICS!!!! Leave my frickin phone alone! Grrrr..... My Thunderbolt is working so well at this point, I will take whatever measures are needed to stop/block ICS when it's released! I'll look for it on a new phone some where down the road!

 

[blackjaguar25]

Good point about the warranty, didn't think about that. It's all the more reason I DON'T WANT ICS!!!! Leave my frickin phone alone! Grrrr..... My Thunderbolt is working so well at this point, I will take whatever measures are needed to stop/block ICS when it's released! I'll look for it on a new phone some where down the road!

But ICS

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[johnriii]

To my knowledge, there are no "stable" roms out there. They all have issues with the radio and therefore can't connect to data, call, text... etc.

There are 3 different ones that I know of... I've been following Liquid's because I love Liquid 3.2. Obviously, once we get closer to an ICS release, I'd anticipate more ICS roms.

Just for clarification, you DO mean there are no stable ICS Roms, right?

 

[FrankXS]

Trust me when I say that while I am pleased with HTC's dedication, from a professional standpoint I do not relish the coming months...

I am also pleased with HTC's dedication, and also their overall Sense product and ability to integrate it. I have confidence in HTC. We'll see.

-Frank

 

[anon(394005)]

But ICS

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I need more justification than just that it's ICS. What is the benefit to risk ratio? What am I gonna get that is worth the potential risk of bugs, some of which could be serious (random reboots anyone?). I have yet to see anything substantial on the benefit side. I've read enough in the Galaxy Nexus forums to know there are plenty of bugs in ICS. There are also a lot of apps yet that don't play well with ICS with some actually causing the phone to reboot. As Mortiel alluded to already, this is much more complicated than going from Froyo to Gingerbread. Now, add Sense into the mix and it's even more complicated than Vanilla ICS.

 

[anon(394005)]

While the Rezound will likely bear the brunt of bugs for both ICS and Sense 4.0, trust me when I say that unless the Rezound's bugs are extensively debilitating with Sense 4.0, the Thunderbolt will get the update a month or two following the Rezound.

I really, REALLY hope that HTC pushes the Thunderbolt's ICS update before its 1 year anniversary... I despised Samsung for pushing the update to the Fascinate 15 months after its launch, screwing many customers with OS failures after the update that had no extended warranty.

Thinking about this further, my 1 year manufacturers warranty expires the beginning of April. I would think a vast majority are in the same boat. I highly doubt they're going to get ICS out to the Thunderbolt before then (probably not even the Rezound). So, why would HTC/Verizon risk putting out a major update to a phone after the warranty period? If it goes badly, as it did with the Fascinate, they could end up with a big mess on their hands.

 

[redcat22]

I too, am pleased with HTC's dedication to this phone. They kind of owe it to Tbolt owners. Aside from the inherent bugs with a new ROM, I'm more concerned with the compatability of ICS and new(er) apps. It seems every time i go to the Android Market or Amazon AppStore, i read more and more negative reviews about apps that aren't compatable with ICS. Whatever bugs that arise from the ICS upgrade will get fixed by HTC. Again, they showing us that they are dedicated to this phone. On the other hand, will app developers be motivated to fix the compatability issues?

 

[FrankXS]

On the other hand, will app developers be motivated to fix the compatability issues?

Times change. Things move on. But you can rest assured that app developers will move with them. It's necessary to enable them to put food on their table ('cept for the hobbyist developers ). But will your beloved "legacy application" be updated? Who knows. If not, in time, there will be a replacement.

-Frank