Bye bye epic :(

[4 Star General]

Peace out!!

I got the Evo a few days after the release date, to test drive prior to the Epic release. I got the Epic and all was good, Downloaded dk28, no bugs. Then all the broken promises and BS from Samsung about the updates. Seems like they are up to their old tricks again(Moment). Needless to say, I sold my Epic, went and got myself another Evo friday night. Samsung your gonna loss the customers that foolishly trusted you once again.

 

[liquidxit2]

I got the Evo a few days after the release date, to test drive prior to the Epic release. I got the Epic and all was good, Downloaded dk28, no bugs. Then all the broken promises and BS from Samsung about the updates. Seems like they are up to their old tricks again(Moment). Needless to say, I sold my Epic, went and got myself another Evo friday night. Samsung your gonna loss the customers that foolishly trusted you once again.

At this point in time I consider myself done with them. Too much dissapointment. I have always loved motorolla, htc, lg (lotus), and palm up tp the pro and I figured I would try samsung since my wife and family had them. Just one let down after another.

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[Andrew Ruffolo]

I refuse to downgrade to a product with a far inferior graphics chip. HTC has lost me until they get rid of the adreno/snapdragon combos. Honestly, once I started using CM6 on my Hero, I really didn't like Sense at all. Makes the phone suboptimal. The Epic sure isn't perfect, but it does have hardware on its side that no software can beat. No matter what other phone you get, the screen just isn't as nice, and the graphics just don't look as good. The closest would be a Motorola phone, which I'll probably jump ship to (maybe Atrix if something doesn't happen soon). I am currently running 2.2, but my accessories are pretty useless without a dedicated app that actually makes the 3.5mm jack in the back of the docks work. I don't have bluetooth in my car, so I could really use that jack to put the calls through the speakers. Tried watching a movie last night at work (nightshift) and it was either too quiet to hear anything or too blaring to keep volume up. Being able to hook up decent external speakers would make me a very happy camper right now... instead, i got a dock that charges the phone at an angle, and paid a pretty penny for it.

 

[shaundizzle]

Actually the moto atrix has a 1900 mah battery and 1gb of ram.
And a lot of people for some reason think dual core will kill the batteries. Androidandme.com had a cool chart/article explaining how it works.

What kills the battery is the stress the processing takes running at full 1ghz. So a phone with 2 cores can run both at 500mhz so it won't take nearly as much power as a phone running one core at 1 ghz.
That's what I got out of it, if your interested in the article, I can try and find it.

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[liquidxit2]

I refuse to downgrade to a product with a far inferior graphics chip. HTC has lost me until they get rid of the adreno/snapdragon combos. Honestly, once I started using CM6 on my Hero, I really didn't like Sense at all. Makes the phone suboptimal. The Epic sure isn't perfect, but it does have hardware on its side that no software can beat. No matter what other phone you get, the screen just isn't as nice, and the graphics just don't look as good. The closest would be a Motorola phone, which I'll probably jump ship to (maybe Atrix if something doesn't happen soon). I am currently running 2.2, but my accessories are pretty useless without a dedicated app that actually makes the 3.5mm jack in the back of the docks work. I don't have bluetooth in my car, so I could really use that jack to put the calls through the speakers. Tried watching a movie last night at work (nightshift) and it was either too quiet to hear anything or too blaring to keep volume up. Being able to hook up decent external speakers would make me a very happy camper right now... instead, i got a dock that charges the phone at an angle, and paid a pretty penny for it.

Ill agree 100% that the epic screen blows away the shifts'. Its not a slight difference. But Ill take a lesser screen if it means my phone will actually get supported, last longer then a day, and do everything the same or better (flash does make web surfing much better). As for the shifts graphics it got 55.6FPS when tested and every other benchmark was better then the epic. But as I always say I take real world use over synthetic benchmarks. I loved my epic and fought for it but the screen cracking was more of a blessing then a curse. Im noticing how much the epic could have been had it been properly supported and Im finally fully content with my phone without being upset about lack of features that were promised and either taken or not updated to. TV out was one of the features that drew me to the phone but they removed it last minute before release. I bought a dock thinking at least Ill have a nice dock until they deliver 2.2 in september like they promised then Ill be able to use it as a multimedia station.

The epic promised alot and when I was looking at it in june excited about all the new things I would be able to do on a smartphone while still being on my preferred network and getting a landscape slider. But at release is failed to delivery alot, and then over the following months kept delaying updates. Whoever is to blame for gimping the phone and preventing it from getting the proper/due updates should be fired. The epic could have been epic had they not done what they did to it. 2.2 and tv out alone would have kept it as one of the most powerful cell phones, if not the most powerful, on the market. Sad.

Actually the moto atrix has a 1900 mah battery and 1gb of ram.
And a lot of people for some reason think dual core will kill the batteries. Androidandme.com had a cool chart/article explaining how it works.

What kills the battery is the stress the processing takes running at full 1ghz. So a phone with 2 cores can run both at 500mhz so it won't take nearly as much power as a phone running one core at 1 ghz.
That's what I got out of it, if your interested in the article, I can try and find it.

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The epic, even with a 3000mah battery and battery saving tweaks and practices, gets terrible battery life. No matter what I did under normal use even with all I had in place (hardware, software and use changes) getting over a day was impossible. The best I had was a light day I had ~15% when I woke up the next day.

The next gen cpu in the shift feels just a fast and sometimes faster then the hummingbird, yet I worked the whole weekend on a single charge (light use). Im hopeful that with the seidio extended Ill be close to where I was with my pre (just as I was hopeful for the epic to do the same). As for dual core cell phones, while this seems great I just dont see the need for it. Even the old 500Mhz cpu in the pre did everything fine (although poor software hindered it a bit). I saw dual cores as a much needed upgrade for PCs, but after using the moment then the epic and now the shift I just dont see the need even though I multitask my phone when Im working. But there will always be those who want something bigger.

 

[Skunkape60]

My buddy's EVO gets worse battery life than my epic....

 

[MissJennell#IM]

My buddy's EVO gets worse battery life than my epic....

I have both and I get worse with my Epic than I do my EVO. SO I guess it depends on what you have running and how you have it set up and modded.

 

[Andrew Ruffolo]

I have both and I get worse with my Epic than I do my EVO. SO I guess it depends on what you have running and how you have it set up and modded.

DING DING DING. Seriously, there are plenty of reports of people getting over 36 hours on the epic. I was getting over a day on mine with just the stock apps and no widgets running. glitz and glam takes up battery.

 

[Andrew Ruffolo]

As for the shifts graphics it got 55.6FPS when tested and every other benchmark was better then the epic.

Have you tried an EXT4 epic? there isn't anything that beats it (except in linpack). and while the shift may report 55.6fps, it is choppy as all hell. looks like absolute garbage when it gets to the graphics portion of quadrant. I have 2.2 on my Epic, I watch hulu, and do all the other flash stuff my PS3 can't even do anymore.

 

[liquidxit2]

Have you tried an EXT4 epic? there isn't anything that beats it (except in linpack). and while the shift may report 55.6fps, it is choppy as all hell. looks like absolute garbage when it gets to the graphics portion of quadrant. I have 2.2 on my Epic, I watch hulu, and do all the other flash stuff my PS3 can't even do anymore.

I'm not a fan of benchmarks as they aren't as accurate as plain jane real world testing. All I know is that I can watch movies and game on my shift just as well as my epic. That's nice that youre running 2.2 on the epic. I wish the official release was out so this thread wouldn't exisit. But that wasn't so. Do you have tv out enabled? If so that would be awesome. As for battery life sometimes I got better then a day, but only with light use. Normal use (with no slingbox and gaming) I was a shade over 24 hours on the xtended battery. On the OEM battery I would have to charge at 5 or 6. I had the screen literall all the way down, no vibration on at all and even cycled gps off some days. How does 2.2 help battery life and how well does the humming bird run on 2.2? Ill have to wait for the official release to use it on either my moms or brothers epics.

I must admit last night I found 2 more things I miss from my epic: thinkfree office and a standard file explorer. Root explorer fixed one and I have yet to test out the office application. So we will see.

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