Bye bye guys

[ecb1171]

Good luck to the OP !

I've also been an avid user of both iOS and Android. iOS doesn't give you the choices and flexibility that Android does, which is the simplicity that some people want. iOS doesn't do as much as Android, but it's stable and consistent, which is a perk. As an example, every iOS mucic app that streams over Bluetooth displays track/artist meta data on my car's head unit. On Android, only certain music apps provide that meta data and not every phone's Bluetooth stack transmits that data. As a corollary, on Android I can share a photo with any application that has a hook into that service while I'm much more limited on iOS. Likewise, if I don't like the keyboard that comes with whatever Android phone I have, I can get any number of qulity keyboards and specify it as my default keyboard. With iOS your stuck with the stock apps that come with the device. You can just pick up an iOS device and hit the ground running without having to tweak anything....as long as you are willing to accept that fact that Apple knows what's best for you

Personally, I prefer the flexibility that Android allows for over the simplicity of iOS. I also love how Google is separating core functionality out so it can be updated without requiring an OS update (the more recent GMail overhaul is a perfect example of the benefits of that) and I'm looking forward to see developers take advantage of the new services that Google announced at IO this year

If there would be anything that would being me back to iOS it would be it's stability; on Android, that varies from phone to phone. I had the S4 and that was extremely unstable with my setup (lots of WiFi disconnects and Bluetooth streaming audio issues with my car) I replaced it with the HTC One and those issues went away. I'll be the first to admit that WiFi and Bluetooth are highly dependent upon the router and car you have. The S4 may have worked flawlessly with a different setup, but I'm not going to swap out my router and car for a phone. Had I been new to Android, I would have been much more likely to replace the S4 with an IP5 because those type of things tend to just work with iOS.

Also, Google is doing a fantastic job of putting their applications on iOS. Maps, Gmail, YouTube, Hangouts, Google+, Google Now all work very well on iOS devices, so you don't lose as switching to iOS as you would have even a year ago

 

[mamutarka]

yes, thats the main reason also I decided I can leave android. Google apps are here on iOS too. I personally think that iOS is nothing without google products, and I'm glad that they are cooperating on this point, Google apps + apple hardware is way to go, for me

 

[Captainbob767]

yes, thats the main reason also I decided I can leave android. Google apps are here on iOS too. I personally think that iOS is nothing without google products, and I'm glad that they are cooperating on this point, Google apps + apple hardware is way to go, for me

Doesn't that small screen bother you when you are comparing to many of the phones today with a more adult sized screen.

 

[petaf]

You guys are phone nerds, of course you like Android. The average person like how the iPhone just plain works the second you turn it on.

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Agree

 

[mr_wendal]

In iOS, you need to launch the Settings app.
In Android, you can do the same. OR you can use a toggle widget. OR you can use the Quick Settings Panel. OR you can have it toggle automatically based on time/location/etc with apps like Tasker. OR you can use NFC tags. OR whatever. You get the picture.

I think that's part of the point here. iOS only has one way to do each thing. No alternatives. For some people having options (Android) is nice, but having multiple different ways to do one thing can be perceived as more complicated. In iOS, you only need to remember that you have to launch the settings app to get to wifi, and that will never change no matter which iPhone/iPad you are using. iOS is like an interstate, and Android is like back roads. You can tell someone 5 different ways to get to a grocery store, but in the end they'll just want to take the interstate because it's easy to remember.

(Note: ohyeahar, this isn't written directly at you; I just wanted to combine my responses)
I was an iPhone user since '07 as well. While I prefer Android after having a Nexus for a few months, there are lots of reasons I can see turning people back to a "simpler" iOS:

1. I rarely had to reboot my iPhone, while I find myself rebooting my Nexus once a week when widgets decide to quit on me or my pulldown notifications menu just won't pull down.
2. Per-app GPS permissions. Don't want X app to access GPS? Turn it off only for that app in the Location Settings. Android, as far as I can tell, is all or nothing when it comes to GPS.
3. The OS is exactly the same throughout all iOS devices, so it works the same for everyone. Figuring out how to do something is as simple as asking someone else who has an iPhone. With Android, I have a Nexus with no custom ROMs. If my friend, who just got a Galaxy S4, asked me how to do something, I'd have to dig around for a while before finding it.
4. You can't screw it up. I never had an app on iOS cause system glitches or crashing or lagging. Sooo many forum questions about Android are asking what is causing their phone to do X, and it often comes down to "It's probably an app or widget. Remove one thing at a time until the problem goes away." No one wants to do that except people who enjoy spending time tweaking their phones.
5. One way to do everything. Chat? Pull up the messaging app. Email? Click email. Maps/navigation/stores? Click maps. Android: Messaging? Click messaging. Or Talk (now Hangouts). Email? Click Email. Or Gmail. Maps/nav/stores? Click Maps. Or Navigation. Or Earth. Or Local. (I understand that these all do slightly different things, but in iOS, the map app does everything in one spot)

If there's one thing I've learned from working in tech support, it's that people only want to know one way to do things. Once I tell someone they can do it this way OR that way, they get overwhelmed, and I have to say, "You know what...let's just stick with this one way for now." The young and/or curious might enjoy the complexities of Android, but there are lots of people who can't be bothered to poke around and just need to get stuff done. No time for tweaking, no time for figuring out which app broke the phone. Rebooting? What's that? iOS is simple, and many people want simple (think about how many people's schedule consists of waking up, making the kids lunch, going to work, picking up the kids from soccer practice, making dinner, going to bed). Simple to us might mean boring, but to many it means comfort and time efficiency.

 

[Captainbob767]

iOS 7 vs. Android Jelly Bean: How Apple's new OS stacks up against Google | Digital Trends

Looks like in another year or two Apple will be almost caught up to Android..... ah.... Today's Android......

 

[return_0]

Maybe I can complain about buttons on nexus 4, little bit ''cheap'' feeling when pressing them

This is the only thing I don't understand about the OP. How does a screen feel "cheap" to press?

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[Captainbob767]

This is the only thing I don't understand about the OP. How does a screen feel "cheap" to press?

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Made out of glass, possibly????/ :-\

 

[mamutarka]

Doesn't that small screen bother you when you are comparing to many of the phones today with a more adult sized screen.

Not for me, I kind of preffer smaller phone, well I would like to have maybe 4.3 or 4.5, but not above. Some like larger some smaller..depends on preferences..

This is the only thing I don't understand about the OP. How does a screen feel "cheap" to press?

Screen? I talk about buttons..Power button and volume buttons on N4 are awful, when I press them, I don't even know that I pressed them, but thats LG problem, no one elses..

 

[Notsosure]

I think that's part of the point here. iOS only has one way to do each thing. No alternatives. For some people having options (Android) is nice, but having multiple different ways to do one thing can be perceived as more complicated. In iOS, you only need to remember that you have to launch the settings app to get to wifi, and that will never change no matter which iPhone/iPad you are using. iOS is like an interstate, and Android is like back roads. You can tell someone 5 different ways to get to a grocery store, but in the end they'll just want to take the interstate because it's easy to remember.

(Note: ohyeahar, this isn't written directly at you; I just wanted to combine my responses)
I was an iPhone user since '07 as well. While I prefer Android after having a Nexus for a few months, there are lots of reasons I can see turning people back to a "simpler" iOS:

1. I rarely had to reboot my iPhone, while I find myself rebooting my Nexus once a week when widgets decide to quit on me or my pulldown notifications menu just won't pull down.
2. Per-app GPS permissions. Don't want X app to access GPS? Turn it off only for that app in the Location Settings. Android, as far as I can tell, is all or nothing when it comes to GPS.
3. The OS is exactly the same throughout all iOS devices, so it works the same for everyone. Figuring out how to do something is as simple as asking someone else who has an iPhone. With Android, I have a Nexus with no custom ROMs. If my friend, who just got a Galaxy S4, asked me how to do something, I'd have to dig around for a while before finding it.
4. You can't screw it up. I never had an app on iOS cause system glitches or crashing or lagging. Sooo many forum questions about Android are asking what is causing their phone to do X, and it often comes down to "It's probably an app or widget. Remove one thing at a time until the problem goes away." No one wants to do that except people who enjoy spending time tweaking their phones.
5. One way to do everything. Chat? Pull up the messaging app. Email? Click email. Maps/navigation/stores? Click maps. Android: Messaging? Click messaging. Or Talk (now Hangouts). Email? Click Email. Or Gmail. Maps/nav/stores? Click Maps. Or Navigation. Or Earth. Or Local. (I understand that these all do slightly different things, but in iOS, the map app does everything in one spot)

If there's one thing I've learned from working in tech support, it's that people only want to know one way to do things. Once I tell someone they can do it this way OR that way, they get overwhelmed, and I have to say, "You know what...let's just stick with this one way for now." The young and/or curious might enjoy the complexities of Android, but there are lots of people who can't be bothered to poke around and just need to get stuff done. No time for tweaking, no time for figuring out which app broke the phone. Rebooting? What's that? iOS is simple, and many people want simple (think about how many people's schedule consists of waking up, making the kids lunch, going to work, picking up the kids from soccer practice, making dinner, going to bed). Simple to us might mean boring, but to many it means comfort and time efficiency.

I came from iOS to the S4. When the first android came out, the TMO G1, I went from iOS to android thinking it was going to be awesome. After 3 days with G1 I gave up went back to iOS. And I can tell you that is part of the reason why I went back. I'm the type of person that like to stick with what I know bc I'm comfortable with it. The G1 wasn't as easy to navigate as the S4. Android has come a long way. Obviously the other reason is lack of apps back then. I do almost everything on my phone, never bothering with laptops. So even with the most simple things like checking bank balances, I would like an app for my bank on my phone. Now that Android is back with being easier to navigate and more user friendly, I'm happy to say I love my S4. Going back to comfortability and choices, I am still using Touchwiz. I don't like it that much, think it is clunky and sort of ugly. But I like the stock feel and I don't want to have to deal with choices of having to pick out a UI. Now I do like having the option to change if I want to. Good example is most of my default apps is made by Google. I love using Google products. It is efficient and simple and does what I need it to do. If I could get rid of S-voice and switch completely to Google Now without rooting, I will do it in a heart beat.

Sent from my Galaxy S4

 

[return_0]

Screen? I talk about buttons..Power button and volume buttons on N4 are awful, when I press them, I don't even know that I pressed them, but thats LG problem, no one elses..

You didn't specify which buttons, so I assumed you were talking about the nav buttons.



Anyways, I think you have a defective unit. My N4's buttons are very premium-feeling, and I'd say they feel better than the iPhone's.

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[mamutarka]

You didn't specify which buttons, so I assumed you were talking about the nav buttons.

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Anyways, I think you have a defective unit. My N4's buttons are very premium-feeling, and I'd say they feel better than the iPhone's.

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Maybe, but also when talking I hear some buzzing, and when I talk on 3G it gets near 50 degrees celsius. Defective or not, I dont use it anymore so it doesn't matter

 

[Captainbob767]

Maybe, but also when talking I hear some buzzing, and when I talk on 3G it gets near 50 degrees celsius. Defective or not, I dont use it anymore so it doesn't matter

Guess it's time to move on then......

 

[JeffDenver]

Anyways, I think you have a defective unit. My N4's buttons are very premium-feeling, and I'd say they feel better than the iPhone's.

Ditto. I have complaints about the Nexus 4, but the build quality is not one of them. It feels as well built as any iPhone I have used. Unfortunately, it is also just as fragile. But the button quality is superb IMO.

 

[anon(5719825)]

My Nexus 4 is beginning to do some annoying things. Last night it began beeping for no reason. 4 short beeps, pause, repeat over and over with no way to stop it. I had to turn it off and restart. Two days ago, I woke up to a dead battery where it was 70% before I went to sleep. I also have trouble hearing some phone calls and then there is the low volume with music and other apps.

I'm just getting really annoyed with it and am thinking of just using my 4S from now on. I've been using the Nexus 4 since February.

 

[return_0]

My Nexus 4 is beginning to do some annoying things. Last night it began beeping for no reason. 4 short beeps, pause, repeat over and over with no way to stop it. I had to turn it off and restart. Two days ago, I woke up to a dead battery where it was 70% before I went to sleep. I also have trouble hearing some phone calls and then there is the low volume with music and other apps.

I'm just getting really annoyed with it and am thinking of just using my 4S from now on. I've been using the Nexus 4 since February.

Instead of getting annoyed and giving up, try looking for a solution

Are there any apps you've installed recently that could be causing this? Did you check the battery setting after it died to see what was draining the most battery? It seems like you're having a lot of problems, so a factory reset might help.

 

[anon(5719825)]

Instead of getting annoyed and giving up, try looking for a solution

Are there any apps you've installed recently that could be causing this? Did you check the battery setting after it died to see what was draining the most battery? It seems like you're having a lot of problems, so a factory reset might help.

No new apps installed. I don't even think I even want to bother with it much anymore to be honest.

 

[pontiac005]

My Nexus 4 is beginning to do some annoying things. Last night it began beeping for no reason. 4 short beeps, pause, repeat over and over with no way to stop it. I had to turn it off and restart. Two days ago, I woke up to a dead battery where it was 70% before I went to sleep. I also have trouble hearing some phone calls and then there is the low volume with music and other apps.

I'm just getting really annoyed with it and am thinking of just using my 4S from now on. I've been using the Nexus 4 since February.

Factory reset?

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[JeffDenver]

You guys are phone nerds, of course you like Android. The average person like how the iPhone just plain works the second you turn it on.

If that was true Apple would still be leading in marketshare like they did years ago. Android has been outselling Apple in the US for a long time now...outside of the US it is outselling them by a lot more.

And the best selling android phones are all high end phones. So it is obviously not cost.

 

[JeffDenver]

My Nexus 4 is beginning to do some annoying things. Last night it began beeping for no reason.

Sounds like a possible hardware problem to me. That is definitely not normal. The beeps make me think something is up as well.

My battery had been able to hold a charge awesomely. I do not even lose 1% of the charge overnight. It holds a charge better than any other phone I have had so far.