Can I Disable Turbo/Quick charge on the Moto X Pure Edition?

[turbo93]

Use an app like GSam to quantify heat. If I'm playing Angry Birds 2 while charging it goes over 100-105F. If I don't use the phone its more like 90-95F.

 

[Stanley Kubrick]

Nothing has changed. Heat kills batteries and all electronics.

 

[Loiter]

Stop spreading myths.. New phones with newer battery tech will not hurt the battery using the quick charger

TurboPower - Motorola

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What are you talking about? [MOD EDIT] I did not say that quick chargers damage the battery. I said that heat damages battery longevity. Check your facts.

In fact, Li-Ion batteries are negatively affected by both heat and cold.

A word of caution: Heat is much more damaging to batteries than cold is.

10 common misconceptions about mobile device batteries - TechRepublic

2015 article

If a battery does get too hot it can cause it to degrade faster and extreme temperatures can even cause the electrolyte in the battery to ignite, starting a fire (though this is really, really rare).

The real reasons your phone battery is rubbish - and how to solve them | TechRadar

2015 article

What's far more dangerous to a battery's well-being is heat. Lithium-ion batteries despise heat. A li-ion battery that's been exposed to temperatures of around 100 degrees Fahrenheit for a year will lose about 40 percent of its overall charge capacity. At 75 degrees, it'll lose only about 20 percent.

How to Keep Your Phone's Battery Healthy

Guess what, 2015 article

All of these articles are 5-6 years old? Do you have anything that has been written in the past year about batteries?

Google is your friend. I found all of the above in less than 5 minutes.

 

[Ry]

First in thread warning.

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[MotoXr]

I use a regular old USB adapter plugged into my computer to charge at night. It says Samsung on it and it came with my S4. It provides a slow as molasses charge

Using a lighter adapter provides the same slow charge. Now, plugging the USB into a power adapter for the wall outlet...that is 2-3x's as fast as the PC USB charge.

 

[Ryaan Johnson]

What are you talking about? [MOD EDIT] I did not say that quick chargers damage the battery. I said that heat damages battery longevity. Check your facts.





10 common misconceptions about mobile device batteries - TechRepublic

2015 article



The real reasons your phone battery is rubbish - and how to solve them | TechRadar

2015 article



How to Keep Your Phone's Battery Healthy

Guess what, 2015 article



Google is your friend. I found all of the above in less than 5 minutes.

Yep info straight from the source.. Motos phones are designed for turbo charging without hurting the longevity of the phone or battery..

https://forums.androidcentral.com/e...2FTurboPower%2Fturbopower.html&token=37VBUadN

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[Ryaan Johnson]

Oppps link is here

https://forums.androidcentral.com/e.../us/TurboPower/turbopower.html&token=9ncTUC2y

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https://forums.androidcentral.com/e.../us/TurboPower/turbopower.html&token=9ncTUC2y

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Hmmm marshmallow bug can't copy links into the forums. Interesting

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Let's try this again

https://forums.androidcentral.com/e.../us/TurboPower/turbopower.html&token=9ncTUC2y

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[ffejjj]

The last 2 nights I've stopped charging at night. I charge to 100% before bed, when I wake up in still at 95% or so. Top off on the way to work. That's it

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[turbo93]

Cooler charging compared to what?

 

[Loiter]

Yep info straight from the source.. Motos phones are designed for turbo charging without hurting the longevity of the phone or battery..

TurboPower - Motorola

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Heat causes damage to the longevity of battery. This is physics and even Motorola admits it (probably spreading myths according to you) in the link you provided: "Prolonged exposure to excessive heat can damage a battery", so I don't understand why you insist. The fact that Motorola advertises "cooler charging" (compared to what?) is irrelevant to what I'm saying. Try charging your phone and using it at the same time and tell me about how cool it still remains.
Again, quick charging will not damage your battery, heat will. No matter how you charge your phone or even if you don't charge it, heat is bad.
So yes, if it gets very hot while charging it is bad no matter what an advertisement says.

 

[VoltaicShock]

Heat causes damage to the longevity of battery. This is physics and even Motorola admits it (probably spreading myths according to you) in the link you provided: "Prolonged exposure to excessive heat can damage a battery", so I don't understand why you insist. The fact that Motorola advertises "cooler charging" (compared to what?) is irrelevant to what I'm saying. Try charging your phone and using it at the same time and tell me about how cool it still remains.
Again, quick charging will not damage your battery, heat will. No matter how you charge your phone or even if you don't charge it, heat is bad.
So yes, if it gets very hot while charging it is bad no matter what an advertisement says.

Mine doesn't get hot while turbo charging at least not to what I would think as being hot.

 

[MotoXr]

Mine doesn't get hot while turbo charging at least not to what I would think as being hot.

Mine hasn't got hot either while Turbo charging. It only takes 1hr or so and then I unplug it. Barely warm to the touch. Then again, I don't play with it while it's charging...kinda defeats the purpose.

Now, playing video games or watching a movie gets your phone hotter IMO than a simple charge. Leaving your phone in direct sunlight will get it much hotter than charging it as well.
When I would tether on my s4, it would get pretty hot. I did have a mild clock on it, but nothing substantial.

 

[VoltaicShock]

Mine hasn't got hot either while Turbo charging. It only takes 1hr or so and then I unplug it. Barely warm to the touch. Then again, I don't play with it while it's charging...kinda defeats the purpose.

Now, playing video games or watching a movie gets your phone hotter IMO than a simple charge. Leaving your phone in direct sunlight will get it much hotter than charging it as well.
When I would tether on my s4, it would get pretty hot. I did have a mild clock on it, but nothing substantial.

I watch Netflix on my commute and the phone doesn't get hot at all during my commute.

 

[Loiter]

Mine doesn't get hot while turbo charging at least not to what I would think as being hot.

It gets just warm in my case, but as I said I don't use it much when charging. However there were a couple of times I had to use it and it got pretty hot. I don't play any games so I can't comment on that. It was regular use (messaging, e-mails, browsing etc) and it got pretty hot.
There are many discussions around the forums about charging while navigating in the car etc (where temperature increases a lot). It's always better to not use your phone while charging, but of course this is not always possible. With Turbo charging the time interval is smaller and that's cool. My HTC One needed about 2 hours to fully charge so I always tried to charge it overnight.

 

[VoltaicShock]

It gets just warm in my case, but as I said I don't use it much when charging. However there were a couple of times I had to use it and it got pretty hot. I don't play any games so I can't comment on that. It was regular use (messaging, e-mails, browsing etc) and it got pretty hot.
There are many discussions around the forums about charging while navigating in the car etc (where temperature increases a lot). It's always better to not use your phone while charging, but of course this is not always possible. With Turbo charging the time interval is smaller and that's cool. My HTC One needed about 2 hours to fully charge so I always tried to charge it overnight.

For me I will usually just charge it in the morning when I wake up as it charges so fast.

 

[travaz]

From QUALCOMM:
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/quick-charge/faq

My Droid Turbo has been quick charged every day that I owned and I have had it since launch day. Battery still gets the same longevity.

 

[greg5524]

Heat causes damage to the longevity of battery. This is physics and even Motorola admits it (probably spreading myths according to you) in the link you provided: "Prolonged exposure to excessive heat can damage a battery", so I don't understand why you insist. The fact that Motorola advertises "cooler charging" (compared to what?) is irrelevant to what I'm saying. Try charging your phone and using it at the same time and tell me about how cool it still remains.
Again, quick charging will not damage your battery, heat will. No matter how you charge your phone or even if you don't charge it, heat is bad.
So yes, if it gets very hot while charging it is bad no matter what an advertisement says.

There was a study done by scientists (in Sweden? Can't remember). Article was out within the last couple of months. They found that quick-charging was better for the overall life of the battery than slow/normal charging. I can't find the link.

 

[Ryaan Johnson]

Heat causes damage to the longevity of battery. This is physics and even Motorola admits it (probably spreading myths according to you) in the link you provided: "Prolonged exposure to excessive heat can damage a battery", so I don't understand why you insist. The fact that Motorola advertises "cooler charging" (compared to what?) is irrelevant to what I'm saying. Try charging your phone and using it at the same time and tell me about how cool it still remains.
Again, quick charging will not damage your battery, heat will. No matter how you charge your phone or even if you don't charge it, heat is bad.
So yes, if it gets very hot while charging it is bad no matter what an advertisement says.

Hmmmm

http://engineering.stanford.edu/new...e-lithium-ion-battery-electrodes-much-thought

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http://gnightearth.com/2014/09/16/b...necessarily-detrimental-to-cycling-lifetimes/

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Heat causes damage to the longevity of battery. This is physics and even Motorola admits it (probably spreading myths according to you) in the link you provided: "Prolonged exposure to excessive heat can damage a battery", so I don't understand why you insist. The fact that Motorola advertises "cooler charging" (compared to what?) is irrelevant to what I'm saying. Try charging your phone and using it at the same time and tell me about how cool it still remains.
Again, quick charging will not damage your battery, heat will. No matter how you charge your phone or even if you don't charge it, heat is bad.
So yes, if it gets very hot while charging it is bad no matter what an advertisement says.

The results paint a new picture. * Instead of current density increasing dramatically with fast charging due to hot spots, they find that current density is basically uniform across charging rates. *Even slower charging rates show hot spots. *This is because *higher charging rates increase the active areas, essentially accommodating the higher current by creating larger active areas that reduce the number of dense hot spots in the electrode.

The relationship between charging rate and phase separation is a crucial one, as this dictates how quickly one can charge a battery and still get the expected performance. *These new results indicate that fast charging could be possible if used with structures that respond to this higher rate by establishing larger areas of active intercalation processes. *This flies in the face of previous notions, but opens up a new research path to explore which electrodes exhibit this behavior and how to take advantage of it for faster charging, longer living batteries

http://blog.clove.co.uk/2015/11/21/what-is-fast-charging-and-turbo-charging/

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[Loiter]

The results paint a new picture. * Instead of current density increasing dramatically with fast charging due to hot spots, they find that current density is basically uniform across charging rates. *Even slower charging rates show hot spots. *This is because *higher charging rates increase the active areas, essentially accommodating the higher current by creating larger active areas that reduce the number of dense hot spots in the electrode.

The relationship between charging rate and phase separation is a crucial one, as this dictates how quickly one can charge a battery and still get the expected performance. *These new results indicate that fast charging could be possible if used with structures that respond to this higher rate by establishing larger areas of active intercalation processes. *This flies in the face of previous notions, but opens up a new research path to explore which electrodes exhibit this behavior and how to take advantage of it for faster charging, longer living batteries

What is fast charging and turbo charging?

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I won't tire repeating the same thing until you stop posting irrelevant things. I'm taking about HEAT damaging battery longevity.
A user asked this:

Using the 25w my phone gets quite warm. When using it, while its charging, it gets very hot. Should I switch to a different charging cord?

And I answered about this. I'm not talking about quick charging vs slow charging. I'm talking about heat and its deleterious effects on battery.
Thank you for making me repeat myself again.

 

[Tristan944]

I'm wondering what gets hotter, the battery or some of the posters in here.....